Stoneforge Mystic

Creature — Kor Artificer

When Stoneforge Mystic enters the battlefield, you may search your library for an Equipment card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle your library.

, : You may put an Equipment card from your hand onto the battlefield.

Discussion (49)

Oof_Magic on Banlist Open Discussion

5 days ago

TriusMalarky

I think the notion that cards should be banned primarily for being unfun is against the spirit of the format. That takes away agency from players. There are plenty of annoying cards and decks. Maybe I find Mox Opal annoying but Mycosynth Lattice to be rather fun. Banning a card for being unfun is going to frustrate those that find it fun and the best explanation that could be given is ‘Well your opinion is in the minority.’ Bans should have some sort of backing with data to support it. Maybe it’s the consistency of speed. Maybe it’s the ubiquity of play. The only ban I know of that Wizards did primarily for being unfun would be Aetherworks Marvel. Wizards chucked more data into that announcement than any other to my knowledge. CYA That article was so long because that’s what happens when you turn over every stone and find the only explanation left is ‘y’all don’t like it.’ Any other article would just spit out the data to support the ban and be done with it.

I think it’s dismissive of combo decks to say a card should be banned if it only exists to do broken things. There should be a speed/consistency threshold. To say you can’t make infinite mana? You can’t cheat a big creature into play? Who’s using Ad Nauseam to do anything fair? Is anyone running Vizier of Remedies without Devoted Druid? Puresteel Paladin? Amulet of Vigor? Goryo's Vengeance? Blazing Shoal is, in my opinion, the most unbannable card. Lattice would be but admittedly, Karn would have to take its spot on the bus. Bridge was a strong component of Hollow One when it had Faithless Looting. Then Hogaak, Arisen Necropolis and Altar of Dementia came along and broke it wide open. They tried to weaken it with a Bridge ban but ultimately hit Hogaak anyway. I think they should have unbanned Bridge when they banned Hogaak. Or at least Golgari Grave-Troll?

I suppose a repeatable artifact tutor is okay even if a creature one is not? I stand by saying if something wasn’t a problem until X comes along, X made the problem. Lattice made Karn a one card combo. Karn falls into the same space as Stoneforge Mystic and Birthing Pod. To that end, if Pod means WotC has to check every creature they make, doesn’t Karn mean they have to check artifacts and Mystic mean equipment?

The more I think about Jitte, the more inclined I am to say it should stay banned. Giving every creature deck Jitte is not as conducive to format health as giving white creature decks Stoneforge.

You know what’s unfun to sit across? Urza's Saga. Unban Field of the Dead.

Oof_Magic on Banlist Open Discussion

6 days ago

SynergyBuild I checked out a video explaining the Trickery deck and I concede, that is ridiculous. I had imagined it as being just as frail as something like Treasure Hunt + Lightning Storm. But the more cascade heavy variant would be trying you with that nonsense every single turn. Trickery is on par with Hypergenesis.

I maintain that Karn was the proper ban. The ‘only exists in the format to do broken things’ is applicable to any combo deck. Decks playing Thassa's Oracle probably aren’t looking to do ‘fair’ things. If Teferi, Time Raveler also could tutor for Knowledge Pool, I don’t think that would make Pool broken. Karn was the problem. The tutor doubled as a damned combo piece! That’s silly! If you could humor me for downtown hyptheticalville, if we errata Karn’s static ability away and add Null Rod to the format, I don’t think anything gets banned.

Caerwyn I definitely agree that Oko is far from safe to plug in right now. But I see it as a card where the meta may evolve to a point that it can accept Oko. I’m simply differentiating cards I think are up for discussion at some point or not. I don’t know what it would take to make the Oko conducive to Modern and whether that says anything good about the format. Oko doesn’t strike me as a Hypergenesis, Tibalt's Trickery, Dread Return, or Summer Bloom type of ban. And there are definitely different types of bans. I see Oko like Jace, the Mind Sculptor, Splinter Twin, or Umezawa's Jitte where we look back every couple years and wonder ‘Is it safe now?’ I agree I wouldn’t have any to see his stupid face any time soon but I wasn’t exactly thrilled to be seeing Jace and Stoneforge Mystic (talk about a linear play pattern). If we unleashed entirety of the ban list, maybe a Delver Oko build would be the one challenger amid a sea of combo decks. But I don’t think Oko would be very meaningful there. Modern would immediately become degenerate and some refer to Modern as Legacy-lite already. While I think the unleashing of absurd combos would be the totality of that transformation, perhaps releasing Oko is the first step in that direction. A direction that is ultimately unhealthy for the format. Aka: Where other bans are absolute, consensus, and thoroughly unquestionable, Oko is at least up for discussion.

Housegheist on Death and wine

1 month ago

Masterful

Thank you for your thoughts.

I have thought about Stoneforge Mystic but it isn’t in my collection yet and pretty expensive these days :D

The swords act like pet-cards. Equiping it on an expendable creature (e.g. an 1/1 Spirit with flying) gains some incidental value.

The same is true for the Deathbringer Liege. He pumps our team for a Plan B if we need lethal Dmg. He also can remove opponents threats; like a multitool.

I hadn’t had much issues with cmc yet but wanted to lower the curve a little bit. I thought to implement Dauthi Voidwalker, but don’t know really what to remove for it. First thoughts where Shadowspear, Grave Titan, Emeria's Call  ^Flip or Gray Merchant of Asphodel. Any thoughts or suggestions on this?

BR

Masterful on Death and wine

1 month ago

List looks good! You might want to try Stoneforge Mystic since you're running so much equipment. I play her just for Skullclamp, but you have more options. Do you ever run into problems with high CMC cards? I notice you're playing a lot of 5+ drops while having few early ramp spells. I also enjoy your unconventional inclusions like Deathbringer Liege and the two swords. Have they been successful so far?

zapyourtumor on Soulherder Flash

1 month ago

Path to Exile isn't great in the current metagame, since you're running three colors I suggest Prismatic Ending

I'm not sure 4 Opt and 3 Remand is good when you could be running more creatures instead. Watcher for Tomorrow is a decent one to help you dig. Wall of Omens is another good draw engine that can stop aggro and walls Ragavan.

Also I think you should heavily consider Yorion, Sky Nomad as companion. Free cards are just really good, and there are definitely enough good flicker creatures in bant colors to go up to 80 cards. You could also include the Stoneforge Mystic package with the extra space to give the deck a more clear "must answer" wincon besides just generating value with etbs.

Some other creatures I think you should consider are Solitude, Endurance for sideboard grave hate, Skyclave Apparition, Noble Hierarch, Aether Vial (lets you "flash in" those non-flash creatures).

baddabiiing on Depala, RIDIN' ON CARS!! (Lieutenant Jor)

1 month ago

Kinda shocked how few mana rocks you're running, would definitely reccomend more of the staples like Arcane Signet and Mind Stone, as well as Skullclamp and the good equipments like Umezawa's Jitte and the swords. Also Stoneforge Mystic would fit right in and I think Knight of the White Orchid is a must in white decks without green.

hungry000 on Lead Guy Ale (BW AsmoraBlade)

1 month ago

Goblin Engineer is interesting. I remember seeing a UW Urza, Lord High Artificer deck that used Vial and Oswald Fiddlebender to help assemble the Thopter Foundry/Sword of the Meek combo; maybe a Jeskai Urza deck with Oswald and Engineer could be in the cards somewhere?

I don't think I'd play Charming Prince over another card in the main here. The deck only runs 9 creatures that get any value at all from flickering, and of those Ranger-Captain of Eos is the only one without severely diminishing returns. For example, you only need Stoneforge Mystic's etb to resolve once to get your most powerful equipment, Kaldra Compleat; the second Stoneforge gets Nettlecyst which is okay, but after that flickering it isn't very good. Thanks for the suggestion, though.

Hardhitta7 on For sale: Akiri Samurai edh …

1 month ago

Hi, I’m in need of some money so I’m looking to sell my Samurai deck. It’s actually pretty good, could use some upgrades like Bloodforged Battle-Axe and Steelshaper's Gift or Stoneforge Mystic but it’s okay as is!

Some of the Kamigawa equipment cards are played and the Lightning Greaves isn’t in great shape but the rest of the cards are in good condition.

It comes sleeved and inside a black Ultra Pro Satin Tower Deck box. Looking for $110 shipped with tracking or best offer. Hit me up and I’m sure we can work out a deal! I can send pics if interested as well.

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