Thalia, Guardian of Thraben

Legendary Creature — Human Soldier

First strike

Noncreature spells cost {1} more to cast.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Alchemy	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Brawl	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Pre-release	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Standard	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (46)

DreadKhan on Yugioh in MTG part 2

1 week ago

Not to be rude, but if you lose Trample on Ball Lightning the card goes from 'played nowhere' to 'what's worse than no play??', I'm pretty sure Trample is more important than Haste on it, you could print a RR 6/1 Trample that auto-dies after attacking, must attack and cannot block and it'd see some play, what you seem to be ignoring is that a turn 2 6/1 haste gets blocked by everyone's 1 drop, and without trample all your Burn deck did turn 2 is play a Red Doom Blade vs a 1 drop. If you're on the play, it's even worse, they might have a 2 drop with First Strike to just kill your Attack Force without risk, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben is a pretty popular card in formats where people play Burn, or has been (she's a bit small/slow now).

There are other creatures you can compare it to in Red, and it doesn't compare well, vs pure creatureless control you'd rather have Goblin Guide, it's almost impossible to counter a 1 drop creature for most Control decks, so it gets on board and starts doing damage, and it'll quickly do more than 6 if they can't remove it for some reason. Vs a deck that uses creatures, Burn might want Vexing Devil, this is a 4/3 body (which is exactly as much total stats as a 6/1 btw) for only R, and many people are stuck vs it and just pay the 4 life, meaning WotC very much printed a R spell that deals 4 a lot of the time to players.

At 3 mana, if you wanted a better blocker than a 6/1 Haste for 2 mana, there is Mijae Djinn, which is a 6/3 blocker so it'll actually survive blocking some stuff, and it can technically swing for 3 on average which is fine for RRR if you're playing it mostly as a blocker, it trades with some fairly big drops. As an attacker, there was Ydwen Efreet, which gives you a super-beefy 3/6 attacker that isn't a great blocker, this sees no play either. Red doesn't want blockers, and cards need to be shockingly good to see play in Red Burn lists when stuff like Monastery Swiftspear can swing big turn 2 and 3 to just win the game, and that card costs under $.5 a copy.

Finally, there was also Keldon Marauders, a 2 drop that is a useful blocker the turn it comes out, but it hits for 2 just for coming and going, meaning you're getting a blocker, an attacker, and a shock for 1R, and this card is not a problem in any metas it's legal in, it's rarely played in Budget lists even.

For the record, actual Lightning Bolt is more or less a design mistake, but it's one that was so popular (and printed at common, and people had to pay serious money for that common in lots of cases because they were so popular) they couldn't quite get rid of it. As noted, Red can do more damage than that turn 1 sometimes, so while it's not obsolete they have printed higher ceiling stuff.

DawnsRayofLight on Jetmir's Myriad of Debauchery

2 weeks ago

seems strong, running stax for some control and using jetmir as a buff to win.

given the mana curve, you could manage a bit more with 32-33 lands and run more 1 drop mana guys.

Removal will be helpful, Path to Exile, Swords to Plowshares, Generous Gift, Beast Within, Winds of Abandon, Fateful Absence,

with the creature count, Winota, Joiner of Forces could help give some gas, though you may need to add more humans to make her work better: Adeline, Resplendent Cathar, Myrel, Shield of Argive, Brutal Cathar  ^Flip, Loyal Apprentice, Sanctum Prelate, Caves of Chaos Adventurer, Seasoned Dungeoneer (I have been loving the initiative creatures), Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Ranger-Captain of Eos

some X token spells like Finale of Glory, Pest Infestation, Grand Crescendo, White Sun's Twilight, Martial Coup, Awaken the Woods can also help restore your board state

wallisface on ▷ BEST Competitive【BUDGET】Deck of 2023 is!? ◁ ONE

1 month ago

I like the list a lot - my only concern was Thalia, Guardian of Thraben as it seemed to trip you up about as often as it helped you. I’m wondering if Leonin Arbiter might be a better fit, as while it doesn’t benefit from being human, it will undoubtably cause a similar amount of disruption for any opponent using fetches.

thefiresoflurve on WIP Control Deck

1 month ago

Hey, there!

First, what's your budget like? 'til I know that, I'll keep suggestions "standard".

Second: Cuts.

Sleep + River's Rebuke - not really an EDH card, since you usually have more than one opponent.

Martial Law - similarly, this is just one creature, and there are bound to be so many more problems than just one on the field at a time.

Invisibility - There are better sources of evasion (getting damage through to other players). Also, getting damage through is something Augustin isn't the best at, so that might not make for a strong win-con.

Robe of Mirrors isn't bad to protect your commander, but for 1 more mana you can use Curator's Ward (because Augustin reduces it) and then get 2 cards if someone uses a boardwipe later. I call that a deal. Diplomatic Immunity is another equally costed option as well, if you find your playgroup runs an obnoxious amount of enchantment removal, since it itself is also untargetable.

Consulate Crackdown - Kind of mediocre for what it does. For just one more mana, you can instead run Farewell or Austere Command, which both produce a much better effect.

Some things traditionally run in Augustin are used to basically slow the game to a crawl, and others are used to tax your opponents while this is going on to create advantages for you while you draw into your win conditions: Cursed Totem, Hushbringer, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Vryn Wingmare, Containment Priest, Reidane, God of the Worthy  ^Flip, Hushwing Gryff, Silent Arbiter, Ethersworn Canonist, Wandering Archaic  ^Flip, Smothering Tithe, Rhystic Study, Linvala, Keeper of Silence, Sphere of Resistance, Torpor Orb, Damping Sphere, Static Orb, Karn's Sylex, Meekstone, Crawlspace... not quite an exhaustive list, but it's a really good start, and gets the point across.

There are some weird cards that you can use as win conditions to go with the "stax" style, like Azor's Elocutors.

If you're interested, https://edhrec.com/commanders/grand-arbiter-augustin-iv has some more suggestions as well - in my opinion, it's not a terrible place to start as a new player, although I'd encourage you to switch it up as you and your wallet like from what's listed there.

https://scryfall.com/ can also be a really good tool if you like to go full nerd and search for alternative cards with similar effects to really expensive cards - I've stumbled across a few hidden gems over time by using it.

Hope that helps, and Happy building!

XinZhao on KAALIA'S CATACLYSM - Aggro/Stax [cEDH Primer]

2 months ago

zAzen7977 For cuts i'd Recommend Thalia, Guardian of Thraben and possibly Magus of the Moon I cant see cutting other spells for Rule of Law Effects

jek22 on Sword of the Realms

3 months ago

I feel my blood pressure spike every time I look over a deck you build. As far as what to cut, I think I remember you saying mono-white sacrifice and board wipe tribal so my recommendations are with that in mind. I'd cut the following: Liquimetal Torque . I'm not sure what you'd want to turn into artifacts, you don't have anything that cares about when an artifact you control is put into the graveyard, and you have plenty of removal that I don't think you'd need to turn other people's permanents into artifacts.
Doomskar . This one I can see why you wouldn't want to cut it. Board wipe at instant speed. But it is the only Foretell card in the deck so once you exile it everyone will know there's a board wipe incoming. Thalia, Guardian of Thraben . It's symmetric, it's staxxy, doesn't really fit your theme I think. Spirited Companion or Wall of Omens . They do the same thing, one of them is just a defender. Soul's Attendant . Just a Soul Warden that costs $2 more. The Fall of Lord Konda  ^Flip . It's removal, but it feels underwhelming, and it's second ability conflicts with Helm of Possession. Oketra's Monument . I feel like every time I build a mono deck, I always end up cutting the monument. That might just be me though. Altar of Dementia . It's an amazing sac outlet, but idk if you want to go for milling out your opponents or self mill.

I'm not sure what else you could cut. I hope that helps a little bit lol

Crow-Umbra on Shanid Zzzzz

3 months ago

I think you have the beginnings of a solid deck, but could stand for a few more minor upgrades. It may sound a bit counter-intuitive, but I think your land count is a bit high at 41. I think you could swap out a handful (maybe like 5) lands for some more two mana rocks like Rakdos Signet and the others in Mardu colors, Talisman of Hierarchy and a couple of the others in those colors, and maybe Mind Stone. Having some more rocks will help you ramp earlier on in a color combo that needs it, vs having a handful of lands that you will have to wait and play.

My last suggestion would be to swap out Sram, Senior Edificer. You currently have ~7 equipment in deck and no Auras, so the likelihood of drawing with Sram is pretty low. There are some other cheap cmc creatures that can still be impactful like Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Goro-Goro, Disciple of Ryusei, Hope of Ghirapur, and Ardoz, Cobbler of War.

I hope these suggestions are helpful. Happy brewing!

Darth_Savage on Azourious Soldiers Pioneer

4 months ago

Your sideboard should probably look something like:

3x Portable Hole clear a path/interaction

2x March of Swirling Mist protection spell

1x Kytheon, Hero of Akros  ^Flip value/go faster

3x Thalia, Guardian of Thraben hates on spell based decks

3x Cathar Commando enchantment/artifact hate

1x Lavinia, Azorius Renegade can hate on fires or nykthos

2x Rest in Peace answers graveyard stratagies