Archangel of Thune
Creature — Angel
Lifelink (Damage dealt by this creature also causes you to gain that much life.)
Whenever you gain life, put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
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- Archangel of Thune + Resplendent Angel
- Archangel of Thune + Fathom Mage + Horizon Chimera
- Archangel of Thune + Spike Feeder
- Archangel of Thune + Spike Feeder + Walking Ballista
- Archangel of Thune + Kitchen Finks + Viscera Seer
- Archangel of Thune + Scavenging Ooze
- Archangel of Thune + Brutal Hordechief
- Archangel of Thune + Sage of Hours + Spike Feeder
- Archangel of Thune + Walking Ballista
- Archangel of Thune + Horizon Chimera + Sphinx's Revelation
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Archangel of Thune Discussion
1 day ago
Get ready for a long post. I put way to much effort into this.
Depends on what direction you want to go and how competitive you want to be. Currently, Ephemerate doesn't really give you much value for flicking your angels, meaning that it isn't worth the card it is taking up over just another angel. I see two different ways to take this deck, either leaning into Angel synergies with life gain or a Ephemerate deck.
Ephemerate decks are great, and if your looking for a budget deck for a kitchen table or low powered modern games then you can build something pretty cheaply by just looking around for cool cards on Scryfall. The issue is that if you want more than that and want a more powerful deck the creatures that work well with Ephemerate are generally really really good and become very expensive by being played loads. In competitive modern these are often 80 cards Yorion, Sky Nomad decks that run Stoneforge Mystic and Solitude as there main cards, which are very expensive. You can try something with Wall of Omens , Thraben Inspector and Charming Prince to generate value but it won't be very powerful with Stoneforge. I think if you want bang for your buck you probably want to try and build the deck around Angel's synergies, although if you want to upgrade into competitive Modern deck at some variable point in the future it is less good.
In the angel's direction, the main payoffs in Modern are being able to play Aether Vial , Resplendent Angel and Archangel of Thune which are all, presumably, out of your price range. To make a budget version you probably want to make out on Youthful Valkyrie , Speaker of the Heavens , Seraph Sanctuary and Bishop of Wings for additional synergies with Angels. You probably want to play some Serra Avenger as a cheap beater and source of Angel related triggers. Some other cards are Sephara, Sky's Blade , although with would be best with a source of tokens such as Lingering Souls and Spectral Procession and cheat it in more consistently if you want to build around it. Archangel of Tithes is greater in creature matchups if you play against them regularly and can easily win races combined with your lifegain. Angel of Invention is a 'Lord' effect that also can create chump blockers and have value if your creates all die. Honor of the Pure is a pump effect that is difficult to interact with. Starnheim Unleashed is one of the most powerful cards in standard Angels and can win games by itself.
As much as it pains me to say it as a big fan of Meld Gisela, the Broken Blade and Bruna, the Fading Light Flip aren't really that good, either dying to the most played removal in the format like ( Lightning Bolt ) for no value or costing 7 mana for too little upside. The same is true for Angel of Destiny which seems like a massive win more card 90% of the time. Starnheim Aspirant seems good but considering the number of white symbols in your costs I doubt this will be legitimately save on mana enough to warrant an inclusion. With your current mana base, you only going to draw double black to cast Sign in Blood 53% of the time by turn 6 and I doubt increasing the number of tapped lands is worth the card draw. Speaking of which making out on Scoured Barrens is probably worth it alongside a couple of other dual lands of your choice, maybe Silverquill Campus if your going to be running the Firja's Retribution which I recommend as that card is very very good.
TLDR: Add good cards cut bad cards.
5 days ago
K0rt Thanks for the in depth suggestions. Yes, is actually working quite well in the new meta, there aren't that many combo decks around now, which are our main "weakness". The Anguished Unmaking vs Vindicate thing, as said before, there are no many Heliod, Sun-Crowned around lately, so yeah, they are pretty interchangeable depending on your local meta. Urza's Saga doesn't tend to be a big problem anyway.
I play Emeria's Call Flip in the mono white version. In tens if not hundreds of matches I think I casted it like 3 times, and it resolved 1. The thing is we rarely get to 7 lands, and when we do its against control, and by that point they always have counter spells because we have been casting our things with Aether Vial and Cavern of Souls . In the other hand I ended needing to pay 3 life for basically a plain many times. In mono white for sure put 1 in there. But in BW we have enough lands that hurt us. Archangel of Thune is a beast, she steals games out of nowhere. She's a huge finisher. Next to Righteous Valkyrie the reason we are able to win matches. She rarely ETBs and doesn't put at leas 2 +1/+1s on all our other stuff that can attack(if not 4+), that's huge immediate value. Yeah, if she's killed in that exact moment with the trigger on the stack you don't get it. But it happens like 1% of the time, and you can easily play around that playing her with vial or protecting her with Giver of Runes and Shalai, Voice of Plenty . I don't think Angel of Invention is even in the same league as her (in this deck at least).
I've tried Serra the Benevolent and is more or less the same thing as with Emeria's Call Flip seems great but it ends up adding nothing. the +2 is worthless, we don't tend to have a ton of creatures and our early ones don't have flying. The ultimate the very rare time I got to use it was always in a win more situation in which I had a ton of life anyway. She rarely was able to -3 more than once. Easily 9 out of 10 times (if not more) she ended up just being a 4cmc Serra Angel . And by that point the deck rather have other 4cmc angels that add more, and can be made uncountable with cavern or play at instant speed with vial.
About the side yeah, that is more adaptable to everyones local meta. This thing works super well in general against tribes, basically we excel against Aggro and midrange, do well enough against control and tend to be f*** against combo. So most tribes are easy wins, with the life gain they can't race us and we fly. Elves is for sure faster than us but not a lost game by any means, the thing is I don't she them that often. But if it is a common deck in your area I'll suggest to add 2 Settle the Wreckage , if not I wouldn't add a sideboard card just for a deck which is rare and not such a big threat. The hardest tribal decks are combo goblins and the new elemental deck (that can be brutal, not as a tribal deck, but as a deck in general). Non of them are an autolose by any means, but they ere the toughest ones. Stony Silence is a great card. I had Damping Matrix in the side before and I changed it for Linvala, Keeper of Silence . But in the new meta I am totally going back to Damping Matrix which is a bit of the best of two worlds between the silence and Linvala. Selfless Spirit is another great card, I've had it on the side but I don't seem to find many board wipes lately so I took it out. There is not much control in my area ATM. But another one that goes in and out depending on the meta. The control match up is not easy but it can be grinded up with the help of cavern and vial to cast our things and Giver and Shalai to save them from dying. Also don't over commit. Tends to be a 50-50. Thanks for the great suggestions!
5 days ago
I know this is rehashing an old discussion but I really think that Anguished Unmaking isn't really playable over Vindicate . It's much beetter against Urza's Saga decks (particularly the food w/ Asmo) decks and Green Tron both of which seem to be pretty hard matchups for this deck at first glance. You should also probably put a Emeria's Call Flip or two into the mana base somewhere for the late game. I also feel as though Archangel of Thune might be too slow for modern, especially since it dies to an Unholy Heat even after a trigger. Maybe some Angel of Invention instead since it gives immediate value even it just dies? Could also go with Serra the Benevolent as a repeated pumping source as well as a random "got'em" Worship .
You almost certainly no more about good vs. bad matchups than me with this deck, but maybe think about some Settle the Wreckage , Stony Silence and Selfless Spirit for the sideboard. Settle is good in the creature mirrors like Elves, which are probably faster than you on the ground. Stony is for the artefact decks like AsmoFood, although now that I think about it running Kataki, War's Wage is probably better to not shut of Aether Vial for you. Spirit could be good against Damn out of Esper Control and other sweepers which you probably have a problem against with this configuration with no way to gain card advantage outside of Legion Angel ,
1 month ago
Hi there! Coming over from your comment on my Darien deck. Looks like a solid list! I do not like to give a ton of recommendations as it is your deck and should be a reflection of you! I will give a few thoughts (while trying to stay budget friendly with an additions), and if you would like more insight I would be glad to help.
As far as lands are concerned, being mono white you have the flexibility to run some solid non basic lands. I am assuming you are running lots of basics due to Extraplanar Lens . I will touch base on that below. A few lands that make sense flavor wise and just in general would be Arcane Lighthouse (get around shroud/hexproof for removal), Grand Coliseum / Nomad Stadium (budget pain lands), Scavenger Grounds (graveyard hate), and War Room (card draw). Tower of the Magistrate is really fun for repeatedly giving an opponents creature protection from their own equipment.
I see you mentioned Solemnity is there for protection against infect. Depending on your meta that could be the right call. If so I would look to remove both Archangel of Thune and Cathars' Crusade as Solemnity completely shuts those cards off.
One other quick thought would be to consider swapping Extraplanar Lens out for something else. I used to run it a lot and found it to be incredibly lackluster. When it stays and people leave it alone it is great! But that never seems to be the case. If it is removed you are out not just the mana you spent on it but a land as well. Not having snow basics makes it easier for your opponents to benefit from it too. If it is working for you though, great! I never had such luck.
I will leave it at that. If you have any questions or thoughts please let me know. Have fun with Darien!
1 month ago
Epicurus, no problem! I've wanted to build an amass deck for a while anyways, and woke up this morning with an idea for a challenge that had not been fully completed.
I'm not sure if this is my ABSOLUTE favorite non-legend, but it was for a while and it's upther. Archangel of Thune it is!
Cerams, Thune's Guardian
Legendary Creature - Angel Cleric
Flying, lifelink, first strike.
Whenever you gain life, you may distribute that many counters of any type among permanents you control.
When ~ enters the battlefield, gain 2 life.
Yes, any counter. Keyword counters? Yep. Loyalty counters? Yep. Charge counters? Yep. If it is a counter, you can put it on ANY permanent you control.
Make a land. Or a plane. Does anyone still play Planeschase? I want to, but don't have a paper planar deck.
1 month ago
How's Monologue Tax working for you? Is ramp more important than draw here?
I struggle to find weak links, it may be at the point where you need to cut good cards to add great cards...
Also--I can't help but notice that you have 4 boardwipes, and that Elspeth Tirel is the last one that's even semi-symmetrical. Ofc, she does a whole lot of other things, but I wonder how you'd feel about replacing her with Solitude : it works well with your instant-speed bounce creatures, it triggers your Commander , Archangel of Thune , and many others, and it gives you more targeted removal options. Just a thought :)
2 months ago
Does Maskwood Nexus make any sense in here? It would work pretty well with Bishop of Wings, and it can make a token per turn if you've got nothing else to do. Archangel of Thune might work if your table is casual enough, but it could be too slow. I like it more than one of the Harbingers at least, you seem fairly good at going wide.