Mangara, the Diplomat
Legendary Creature — Human Cleric
Whenever an opponent attacks you and/or a planeswalker you control with two or more creatures, draw a card.
Whenever an opponent casts their second spell each turn, draw a card.
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|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
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Mangara, the Diplomat Discussion
2 weeks ago
The easiest way to make a deck more competitive is with more card draw, ramp (mana), and interaction (removal). Getting close to 10 for each of those categories is a good place to be. For this deck I'd suggest Vanishing Verse, Path to Exile, and Heliod's Intervention for removal; Arcane Signet, Talisman of Hierarchy, Millikin, Springleaf Drum, and Priest of Forgotten Gods for ramp; Mentor of the Meek, Idol of Oblivion, Erebos, Bleak-Hearted, Mangara, the Diplomat, and Esper Sentinel for draw.
Good luck with the deck! :3
2 weeks ago
I wonder, if your are ever have mana issues with that few lands (and a number of ut comes tapped).
I would suggest to swap the terramorphic expanse with Fabled Passage if you really want a fetch… but just a simple Plains would do it as you are just mono-white. What about using classic Sol Ring, Land Tax or Smothering Tithe to ramp up?
Gift of Immortality would provie some protection another way. And it’s an enchantment and would synergise with your enches. Esper Sentinel or Mangara, the Diplomat could be used for Card draw and Verge Rangers or Keeper of the Accord to keep up landwise (or creature wise in case of the latter).
1 month ago
I have been toying around with this deck idea and I have some suggestions now!
I would drop howling mine for Endless Atlas, other card draw are War Room, Alms Collector, Esper Sentinel, Mangara, the Diplomat, I have been having a lot of games where the deck just grinded to a halt without something to refill it. Symmetrical card draw can work against you here so Howling Mine May not be good unless you have plenty of ways of tapping artifacts down.
Manascape Refractor is really good with the right lands (like the lotus lands)
Archaeomancer's Map helps with ramp
Archon of Emeria is super good, a better eidolon or can be run in addition
Sanctum Prelate to stop any annoying board wipes.
This is what I have been working on using yours a blueprint: No One Wants to Play EDH With Me Now...
1 month ago
TheBubbaEA It really depends on your playgroup's meta when considering certain strategies. If your group has a lot of board wipes 3.45 will be too slow and hard to rebuild a board state if you are hard casting all your creatures. For me personally I like explosive turns so I find ways to generate a lot of tokens or cheat out a bunch of creatures near the end game (in my playgroup turn 10+). For example using effects like Omniscience , Rise of the Dark Realms .
If you do choose to go more aggro angels may not be the best option due to their avg high cmc. But if you do stick with angels a couple other cards worth considering would be:
- Herald of War
- Herald's Horn
- Oketra's Monument
- Warden of Evos Isle
- The Book of Exalted Deeds
- Thraben Watcher
- Righteous Valkyrie
- Valkyrie Harbinger (There are other cards with similar effect)
- Bishop of Wings
- Speaker of the Heavens
- Geist of Saint Traft
Some other cards I like, although may not be quite right for this deck:
- Basri Ket (For that -2) similar to Launch the Fleet
- Basri's Lieutenant
- Luminous Broodmoth
- Brought Back
- Storm Herd (Very high cmc but high reward when paired with Odric, Lunarch Marshal + Akroma, Vision of Ixidor )
- Well of Lost Dreams
Some white staples(some are quite expensive):
- Smothering Tithe
- Mangara, the Diplomat
- Esper Sentinel
- Land Tax
- Felidar Retreat
- Keeper of the Accord
- Archaeomancer's Map
- Verge Rangers
Sorry only white cards come to mind as I myself was building a mono white angels deck.
3 months ago
Fun looking deck! I have a kind of long list of suggestions for you. Some of them are specifically suggested to deal with your draw problem, but not all of them. I will say that I wouldn't expect that you would try to fit all of these in here, and I'm also shyt at telling anyone what to cut from their own deck. So I'll drop this list here and let you make of it what you will.
3 months ago
Hey, thanks for the suggestions. Many of these were in the deck at some point or another. I feel like the vast majority simply didn’t make the cut because they weren’t as efficient mana wise as the alternatives and the extra redundancy wasn’t needed. That, or they were more combat related and I, surprisingly, almost never win via combat. The specific ones that do not fall into those two categories i’ll address below:
Blasting Station - i actually kick around the idea of adding this as another wincon pretty often. If i were to slot another one in, it’d be this, or Altar of Dementia , or maaaaybe Test of Endurance / Felidar Sovereign
Arch of Orazca / Bonders' Enclave - these just ended up being more expensive to use, or less consistent than War Room , keeping in mind that God-Eternal Oketra doesn’t activate enclave and that actually does end up being relevant pretty often. Anyways, with Expedition Map and Weathered Wayfarer , 1 draw land seems to be sufficient as emergency fuel.
Cathars' Crusade - It gets wild in this deck for sure, and when i was leaning less into life gain, and was winning with Altar of Dementia more, it took the place of Angelic Chorus . But nowadays, I just don’t swing that often and i’m not running altar right now so it’s out.
Enduring Renewal - this is an interesting one... I’d honestly have to sit down for a bit and figure out how it interacts with everything to give a good answer here. I’ll look at it more.
Search for Glory - This is a great one. I’d like to run it, but I don’t have many good targets outside of Mangara, the Diplomat and the monuments, which i have a couple tutors for already. The biggest problem, silly as it may sound, is that i’d want to run snow lands, and for thematic purposes i’m running the full art amonkhet plains, so i can’t do that. Solid suggestion though.
Palace Jailer - this ended up getting replaced with Skyclave Apparition for cheaper and more versatile removal. I do miss it sometimes though. I love being the monarch. Which remind me... Throne of the High City could be fun, but my colored lands are already stretched pretty thing for a deck that so desperately needs white mana. Really can’t drop any more.
Love getting suggestions and talking through options for the deck. Thanks again. I really enjoy your decks as well!
4 months ago
Personally I think mono white is by far the weakest color in edh, and the gap is only growing with the great new Boros commanders we've had out recently and some good mono-red options as well. I say this as a white player who has tried many times to make a mono white commander deck that I like, only to be always disappointed and to take it apart.
The problem is not really ramp imo. White actually has more ramp than most other non-green colors with cards like Kor Cartographer and Boreas Charger , and, as others have said, they can use the same mana rocks and Sword of the Animist style cards that other colors use.
I don't think the problem is really overall direction either. One thing they have done in recent sets with cards like Cosmic Intervention , Semester's End , Unbreakable Formation , and Teferi's Protection giving white more ways to protect a board state at instant speed, which it often needs in commander. Its always had the best removal, and it also has recursion and some great new lifegain synergies with one great new commander in Heliod, Sun-Crowned .
The problem is absolutely and overwhelmingly an abyssmal lack of card draw. The only helps to this in recent years have been Sram, Senior Edificer and Mangara, the Diplomat , but these are few and far between. Recenty Ari Nieh, the new guy representing white on the council of colors was on Tolarian Community College, and he expressed some of the prior thinking on card draw in white that has led to these problems. In short, an example of what they thought card draw was is God-Eternal Oketra . While a great card, Oketra clearly doesn't draw cards, but they reasoned that the fact that it produces big tokens was basically the same thing. The fact that developers whose job is to make this game actually thought that just shows how far away they are from understanding our format. Apparently Mark Rosewater has had a change of heart recently, and hence why we have Mangara, but there's a long way to go. Every other color can draw cards on its own without support of another color if need be, but its real tough in white.
4 months ago
Hey, looking at your list I have a bunch of opinions. I'mma drop those for later reference. This comment will be a mess, I'm sorry, I'm not gonna write a cohesive essay with a proper layout.
Vryn Wingmare : taxing yes, but also taxes like 70% of your spells which I just can't see being worth it. At that stage, maybe run Sphere of Resistance . At least that hurts opposing creature decks too.
I don't love cards like Ghostly Prison because even though it does stop a bunch of random damage and everything it still won't stop the Voltron coming your way if they want to. On top of that your Magus of the Tabernacle will be an issue with your high creature count. So I'd consider getting rid of Baird, Steward of Argive and friends.
You only have three boardwipes, you're better off running more of those than pillowfort effects in my opinion. Consider Cleansing Nova , Rout , Time Wipe , Divine Reckoning . I like the last two a lot for this deck. Also where's your Cyclonic Rift do you not have more copies?
I'm very double on Isperia, Supreme Judge as a card. It's only 4 mana here which might make it good enough, but you're relying on opponents doing something which is usually not where you want to be. Mangara, the Diplomat in contrast, at least has muliple triggered abilities which does get triggered a lot, although with your taxing probably still a bad include, especially for it's $ cost. In the same wake I think Fatespinner , even though annoying for sure, gives opponents more options than you would like.
Nitpick, but Brainstorm becomes considerably worse if you don't have a bunch of fetches or other shuffle effects. Same goes for Mox Opal and your low artifact count. Though that one might still be good enough, albeit a little inconsistent with the current artifact count.
For counterspells, consider Memory Lapse or maybe even Essence Scatter or False Summoning . Also get Swan Song back in, a 1 mana counterspell that doesn't have a pay x out is probably still worth it's spot. Maaaybe on a super tight 100, but it's not like you're at that stage right now. And get rid of Render Silent three mana isn't worth it for the added silence in my opinion. Just keep the cheapest counterspells so you yourself can be more efficient with your own mana.
For ramp: Your commander is 4 mana, and getting him out is really good for you. Your ramp, for this reason, should be cmc 2 and below if possible. On top of that, due to Augustin's cost reducing abilities, you prefer your ramp to generate colored mana. So imo get rid of Azorius Locket and Azorius Cluestone . Instead look towards Coldsteel Heart and Talisman of Progress , maybe even a Sapphire Medallion , Pearl Medallion , Wayfarer's Bauble , Knight of the White Orchid . Or maybe Mind Stone , Walking Atlas , Everflowing Chalice . Maybe don't fix colors but at least curve out augustin. Finally please at least play Commander's Sphere over the Cluestone .
Also, please for the sake of our group, play an additional wincon. Right now you have Expropriate , Approach of the Second Sun and Smothering Tithe + Stasis lock. I know control decks don't traditionally run too many wincons, but keeping a lock on the board long enough is difficult and we won't usually feel like sitting through you trying to contain us for that long. Also where's Dramatic Reversal to go with your Isochron Scepter ?