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Well of Lost Dreams
Whenever you gain life, you may pay (X), where X is less than or equal to the amount of life you gained. If you do, draw X cards.
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Well of Lost Dreams Discussion
1 week ago
1 week ago
Well, I am a fan of Selvala, Explorer Returned . A group-hug effect tacked onto a name more recognizable in its mono-green form, however, I found that Selvala, Explorer Returned gives roughly 3-4 mana on tap. That is an amazing advantage.
Take abuse of this, with effects like Smothering Tithe , Well of Lost Dreams , or Paradox Engine , use more untap-effects like Instill Energy , Quirion Ranger , Scryb Ranger , Wirewood Symbiote , Vitalize , Nature's Chosen (A favorite), Emerald Charm , and numerous other green untap effects that cost less than the tap on Selvala herself, and you can storm off through your deck, just trying to find Paradox Engine , Well of Lost Dreams , or another payoff, and you will draw your deck.
This list is just an unbudgeted variant: Selvala Hugstorm (Semi-Competitive Combo)
3 weeks ago
I didn't want to comment on the deck because it is out of my wheelhouse and looks pretty solid to me. I'll try to give you a few things to work with though.
One of the strongest white cards I've seen printed recently is Smothering Tithe . This thing gets nutty. I only see 1 way to remove an artifact/enchantment so maybe Return to Dust ? Winter Orb is a staple of these sorts of decks. Hushwing Gryff or Torpor Orb will turn off some decks, might be worth having one of them. Depends on your meta. Aven Mindcensor pisses me off. Every. Single. Time. Definitely worth thinking about.
Resplendent Mentor seems like the most obvious thing to remove. Maybe you have a neat idea with it though? Card draw is great but I don't see a lot of lifegain so using Well of Lost Dreams will be difficult at best.
Hope I've given you something worth while to think about.
3 weeks ago
Bluq16, thanks a lot! I really do appreciate it :)
Alhammarret's Archive actually might make it into the list very soon. I tried out Well of Lost Dreams because I thought it would be the better of the two and was thoroughly disappointed. Now having played the deck quite a bit I think that the Archive is a much better fit and could do some insane things with the draw spells the deck has access to. One of Gisela, Blade of Goldnight / Axis of Mortality / Sword of War and Peace could be swapped out for it easily.
1 month ago
Other cards in white that deal damage to you are rare, but some colorless cards exist for the job, here all of the ones that come to mind:
The white part of the Odyssey utility threshold lands: Nomad Stadium
Staff of Nin xDD to deal damage to you!
Ankh of Mishra would be amazing!
Off of that staff one I though of Blasting Station ... there is some infinite combo there, right?
Jinxed Idol might not be so jinxed after all!
Ancient Tomb is amazing as well.
That is all I have for that... now for some finishers once you have the life/token engine going!
Anointed Procession for more fun?
Divine Visitation too...
Slate of Ancestry on that note.
That's all I got... other than random anthem effects like Dictate of Heliod , but that would be too weak IMO.
1 month ago
1 month ago
Recommended Cards to Add
This of course does not take into accountmana curve considerations or anything similar. It is merely cards to consider
Captivating Crew - Repeated steal effect to have ammunition to throw at people
Evra, Halcyon Witness - Large creature that can be as big as your lifetotal when thrown if wanted.
Serra Avatar - Large creature that is as big as your life total to potentially one shot someone and double your lifetotal
Zealous Conscripts - Can steal an opposing creature to throw, opposing walker to ult or any other problematic permenent. Also incidentaly goes infinite with Kiki Jiki.
Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker - Can tap to make copies of your big creatures to throw. Goes infinite with Zealous conscripts.
Malignus - Large creature that scales with life total of opponent
Molten Primordial - Mass threaten on a stick
Feldon of the Third Path - makes copies of your already dead creatures
Emeria Shepherd - Recursion that can also be reanimation
Hoarding Dragon - A way to search out our game winning artifacts. Easy enough to throw at someone to get our artifact.
Karmic Guide - Reanimation
Neheb, the Eternal - lots of mana if you throw things pre combat
Yosei, the Morning Star - Very good thing to be able to recur. Can lock people out of the game with enough setup.
War Elemental - Scales as we throw things
Bloodshot Cyclops - Backup Brion?
Bearer of the Heavens - Dont make me do this!
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight - Double our damage, half theirs? Yes please
The usual goes here of making sure that we have interaction for people trying to stop us or making sure we can stop people. Though of specific mention
Faith's Reward - Recover from a wrath or just rebuy a couple of good creatures after a combat and throw.
Orim's Thunder - Hadn't actually seen this before but it seems to be a good potential 2 for 1 while also being a good answer to artifacts and enchantments.
Here there are a lot of potential threaten effects that i could recommend. But we know that we need them so i won't list them all. Other effects we could need do include one or two wraths as even though we are the creature deck, sometimes they just have more or better creatures. However other things to note.
Open the Armory - Tutors equipment or Auras.
Chandra's Ignition - Targetting some of our big creatures might just end the game with this.
Insurrection - You usually just win if this resolves on a decent board state.
Other than that, the fun things include
Phyrexian Processor - Yeh this card is rather good. Just Make big tokens and start throwing them
Well of Lost Dreams - With the triggers from Brion we should be able to restock our hand quite easily with this
Illusionist's Bracers - Copy the fling. As sacrificing a creature is part of the cost it will effectively be two triggers from flinging the same creature.
Thornbite Staff - Untaps brion when a creature dies. This includes sacrificing the creature to brion, so effectively tapping him causes him to untap....
Thousand-Year Elixir - Gives Brion haste and an untap.
Aetherflux Reservoir - 50cal Sniper Rifle to the face anyone?
Damage doublers can be recommended but i usually avoid the symettrical ones from personal preference. One or two effects that give Haste might be good too. Other effects however
Flameshadow Conjuring - Copy up our faties for good ETB triggers, effective haste or extra copies to throw with Brion.
Sigil of the New Dawn - Recur everything!
Marshal's Anthem - Decent mass resurrect in white. Though a little mana intensive
Angelic Renewal - One time use recursion of a creature
Goblin Bombardment - Backup sacrifice effects for all our threatens. WE don't want to have to give their toys back do we?
1 month ago
TheNocholas Card draw has defiantly been hard to find however I've been lucky in finding card draw that connects with life-gain. One of those is actually Dawn of Hope ! Other I've found are Alhammarret's Archive , Coercive Portal , and Well of Lost Dreams . Also i'm unsure if Mentor of the Meek will help because most of the angel are 4/4 or higher. The more I look at Smothering Tithe I'm unsure if that the best for this deck but the more mana the better!
heyzeus_ Thanks man! It's defiantly been a chore to making this better but I love improving it. All the cards you suggest to me I've been slowly trying to get but in the mean time I've been trying to find tons of board wipes that can simply eliminate all permanents that way I can deal with planes-walkers or still looking for just better exiles. However board-wipes seem to be cheaper and possible more efficient. And yet again your card suggestions are fantastic, those land cards would only make this deck stronger!
Yet again thanks for your guys help! This is my first real deck so I appreciate the support!
Well of Lost Dreams occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.03%
W/B (Orzhov): 0.42%