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Dabsolux on Pauper and PDH combos
4 months ago
I would like to create a list of all Pauper and PDH deck combos. Most of them are created by NateDiggity7 (Moxfield) and PenguinPete (MTG Salvation). Here some:
BG - Golgari
- Ivy Lane Denizen + Rendclaw Trow + Viscera Seer = infinite scry
- Reins of the Vinesteed + Warehouse Tabby = infinite death trigger (need a rat enchanted with Reins of the Vinesteed)
- Basking Broodscale + Sadistic Glee = infinite +1/+1 counter on Basking Broodscale
- Ivy Lane Denizen + Rendclaw Trow + Bloodthrone Vampire = infinite large creature (VARIANT: can use any green creature with persist)
- Ivy Lane Denizen + Rendclaw Trow + Viscera Seer = infinite scry
- Ivy Lane Denizen + Rendclaw Trow + Viscera Seer + Deathgreeter = infinite scry, infinite life
- Ivy Lane Denizen + Rendclaw Trow + Ashnod's Altar + Essence Warden = infinite mana, infinite life
BR - Rakdos
- Ardent Elementalist + Fake Your Own Death + Thermopod = infinite death trigger, infinite ETB, infinite storm count
- First Day of Class + Putrid Goblin + Skirk Prospector = infinite red mana (VARIANT: any creature with persist + Thermopod)
C - Colorless
- Ashnod's Altar + Foundry Inspector + Myr Retriever + Workshop Assistant = infinite colorless mana
G - Green
- Careful Cultivation + Pili-Pala = infinite mana
- Ashnod's Altar + Pili-Pala + Presence of Gond = infinite mana
- Devoted Druid + Ivy Lane Denizen + Presence of Gond = infinite elf token
- Ivy Lane Denizen + Aerie Ouphes = infinite damage on flying creature, infinite ETB
RG - Gruul
- Hangar Scrounger + Seeker of Skybreak = infinite scry (only when Hangar Scrounger ETB)
- Sprout Swarm + Blisterspit Gremlin + Thermo-Alchemist + Thunderscape Familiar + Unruly Catapult = infinite saproling token (VARIANT: any ETB untap, any spell reduction cost, any untap on cast)
UBG - Sultai
- Freed from the Real + Karametra's Favor + Servant of Tymaret = infinite life drain
UB - Dimir
- Freed from the Real + Dimir Aqueduct + Wind Zendikon = infinite black mana (VARIANT: use any two mana land provinding blue and any turn to creature effect)
- Disciple of the Vault + Undercity Scrounger + Freed from the Real = infinite life loss (Morbid required)
UG - Simic
- Arbor Elf + Utopia Sprawl + Freed from the Real = infinite mana
- Freed from the Real + Axebane Guardian + Steel Wall = infinite mana (VARIANT: may use any defender instead of Steel Wall)
- Freed from the Real + Krosan Restorer = infinite mana
- Freed from the Real + Lifespark Spellbomb + Simic Growth Chamber = infinite green mana
- Freed from the Real + Axebane Guardian + Steel Wall + Viridian Longbow = infinite damage
- Freed from the Real + Karametra's Favor + Deepwater Hypnotist = infinite fog
- Freed from the Real + Karametra's Favor + Sphinx's Disciple = infinite draw
- Elvish Aberration + Energy Refractor + Freed from the Real = Infinite mana
- Axebane Guardian + Steel Wall + Vigean Graftmage + Excavated Wall = infinite mana
URG - Temur
- Freed from the Real + Orochi Leafcaller + Zhur-Taa Druid = infinite damage
- Morselhoarder + Sinking Feeling + Viridian Longbow = infinite damage
U - Blue
- Archaeomancer + Ghostly Flicker + Peregrine Drake = infinite mana NOT LEGAL
- Archaeomancer + High Tide + Snap = infinite ETB, infinite storm count NOT LEGAL
- Banishing Knack + Battered Golem + Lotus Petal = infinite ETB, infinite storm count (VARIANT: Retraction Helix,Mirran Spy, any 0 mana artifact add Golem Foundry for infinite golem token)
- Retraction Helix + Zephyr Scribe + Spidersilk Net + Elusive Spellfist = infinitely large unblockable creature
WB - Orzhov
- Ashnod's Altar + Disciple of the Sun + Kaya's Ghostform = infinite colorless mana (VARIANT: Viscera Seer infinite scry)
- Spirit en-Kor + Daru Spiritualist + Severed Strands = Infinite life (VARIANT: Nomads en-Kor)
WG - Selesnya
- Midnight Guard + Presence of Gond = infinite elf token
- Presence of Gond + Devoted Druid + Sigil of the Nayan Gods = infinite elf token
WR - Boros
- Crown of Flames + Mogg War Marshal + Tethmos High Priest + Skirk Prospector = infinite goblin token
WUB - Esper
- Songs of the Damned + Mnemonic Wall + Energy Refractor + Cavern Harpy + God-Pharaoh's Faithful = Infinite mana (need 11 creatures in gy)
- Songs of the Damned + Mnemonic Wall + Energy Refractor + Cavern Harpy + Basilica Screecher = infinite life loss (need 11 creatures in gy)
WU - Azorius
- Retraction Helix + Midnight Guard + Soul's Attendant + Ornithopter = infinite life
- Retraction Helix + Stonybrook Schoolmaster + Mirran Spy + Ornithopter = infinite merfolk token
- Retraction Helix + Stonybrook Schoolmaster + Mirran Spy + Ornithopter + Sage's Row Denizen = infinite merfolk token, infinite mill
- Retraction Helix + Stonybrook Schoolmaster + Mirran Spy + Ornithopter + Judge of Currents = infinite merfolk token, infinite life
ONLY PDH
BR - Rakdos
- Ashnod's Altar + First Day of Class + Murderous Redcap = infinite damage, infinite colorless mana
BG - Golgari
- Devoted Druid + Quillspike = Quillspike with infinite strenght and toughness
U - Blue
- Freed from the Real + Malcolm, Keen-Eyed Navigator + Viridian Longbow = infinite damage
- Energy Refractor + Freed from the Real + Vhal, Candlekeep Researcher + Viridian Longbow = infinite damage
UR - Izzet
- Alena, Kessig Trapper + Energy Refractor + Freed from the Real = Infinite mana (need a creature with powet at least 3 that entered the battlefield this turn, need a blue partner commander)
G - Green
- Essence Warden + Lurking Roper + Presence of Gond = infinite life, infinite elf token
- Ivy Lane Denizen + Scurry Oak = infinite counter on Scurry Oak, infinite squirrel token
UG - Simic
- Freed from the Real + Gyre Engineer = infinite green mana
- Freed from the Real + Ley Weaver = infinite mana (need at least a land that add for blue and another land)
W - White
- Abdel Adrian, Gorion's Ward + Journey to Nowhere + Oblivion Ring = infinite soldier token (VARIANT: add any nonland permanent with ETB effect )
WG - Selesnya
- Ashnod's Altar + Ivy Lane Denizen + Kitchen Finks = infinite life, infinite colorless mana (VARIANT: Master Chef)
DreadKhan on Sauron The Grixis Lord
1 year ago
If you want to keep your budget fairly low, there are the signets (Rakdos Signet, Izzet Signet, and Dimir Signet) and the talismans (Talisman of Dominance, Talisman of Indulgence, and Talisman of Creativity) to start with, but Grixis has access to a really good new option, Relic of Sauron, which I think is great. I'm not sure if it's really a good card, but Firemind Vessel exists. There is also Myriad Landscape, which can find a colour you don't have yet (and gets 2 of that colour). An option if you keep your fairly high (which is fine btw) land count would be to replace a land with Temple of the False God.
Since you actually need to ramp a few times from 3 mana to cast Sauron, you might run something weird like Dreamscape Artist, that can help get you to Sauron mana to get your deck online, including fixing your mana. It's incredibly janky, but Apprentice Wizard can help cast Sauron's colourless cost.
I could be wrong, but I think Arcane Adaptation is usually better than Xenograft. I think Maskwood Nexus is also better. I think you could find much better cards than Ugluk, including many that are lower to the ground. Foray of Orcs is not very high impact for the mana when there are cards that can just remove any creature for less mana, or cards like Fateful Showdown for similar. I would even play Fire Covenant over it. Torment of Golum sounds to me like an outright bad card, ymmv, but I think you can find something that works similar for less. I'm also unsure if Surrounded by Orcs is worth casting, adding only 3 power isn't very impressive, and if the army dies you lose the buff forever.
You can certainly shave some lands if you add more ramp sources, though I wouldn't go below 36 lands with a 6 mana Commander that needs 3 colours to cast. You can sneak that lower with a better mana base, but that increases the cost. If you lower your land count to 36, you could also look at the Guild Bounce lands, Dimir Aqueduct, Rakdos Carnarium and Izzet Boilerworks, each of these is a dual land that is cheap and helps you hit more land drops. They aren't great if you have lots of 'Enters tapped' lands, but without mostly Basics they are solid in a 3 colour deck. Guildless Commons also exists, but in a 3 colour deck I'd be more leery of it.
Ookafont on Dimir Serpent
1 year ago
Fun build and well designed. Take an upvote. Also, I recommend Dimir Aqueduct
multimedia on Urza, CEO of Machines
1 year ago
Hey, good upgrades to the precon, what you've done so far.
How do you want to win? Determining the main strategy you want to play can help to keep good cards for that strategy and cut unnecessary cards. If you're wanting to keep precon level budget then doing combat damage with Constructs and Commander damage with Urza are directions to consider. Research Thief and Bident of Thassa are excellent budget cards if you want to be attacking with Constructs. Making Urza an artifact makes him a reliable source of Commander damage, but this means including effects to make Urza an artifact.
You have Urza, Lord High Artificer, he's a combo wincon, but to use him as a wincon you'll want to add other cards and more ways to assemble the combo. Drawing cards from Constructs doing combat damage to opponents is a good alternative to playing expensive price tutors to get combo pieces in your hand.
You have Tezzeret, Master of the Bridge, you don't really need Mycosynth Golem especially not for it's price tag. You don't need this Tezzeret either, but if you have it might as well play it. The first cuts to consider are lands since 41 lands is a lot when the strategy here are artifacts. Consider cutting 6 lands? Lands that always ETB tapped and are worse then others that also do this. If you feel you need more mana then add mana sources (rocks, dorks) not lands.
- Orzhov Basilica, Azorius Chancery, Dimir Aqueduct
- Temple of Silence, Temple of Deceit, Temple of Enlightenment
The Bounce lands and Scry lands are worse always ETB tapped lands then Tri lands, Bridges, etc.
Some advice for more cuts is choose the top 20 creatures here, top 10 artifacts and top 10 other nonland cards. By choosing the best cards then you can cut a huge chunk away of lesser cards.
Creatures:
- Urza, Lord High Artificer
- Research Thief
- Losheel, Clockwork Scholar
- Thought Monitor, Ethersworn Sphinx
- Ornithopter of Paradise, Etherium Sculptor
- Phyrexian Metamorph
- Spellskite, Padeem, Consul of Innovation
- Ethersworn Canonist
- Baleful Strix
- Hangarback Walker, Sai, Master Thopterist
- Steel Overseer
- Armix, Filigree Thrasher
- Emry, Lurker of the Loch, Sharuum the Hegemon
- The Reality Chip, Lion Sash
Artifacts:
- Sol Ring
- Arcane Signet, Chromatic Lantern
- Liquimetal Torque
- Talisman of Dominance, Talisman of Hierarchy
- Scourglass
- Swiftfoot Boots
- Cranial Plating, Shadowspear
- Strionic Resonator
Others:
- Their Name is Death, Phyrexian Scriptures
- The Flesh is Weak
- Tezzeret, Master of the Bridge
- Artificer Class
- Austere Command
- Void Rend
- Swords to Plowshares
- Dovin's Veto
- Thoughtcast
For upgrading it's easier to get an established list that's not 99 cards then have a list that's way over 99 cards. Really any 0-3 drop artifact creature who can make some value to take advantage of Urza artifact creature affinity or any 0-2 drop mana rock for more ramp can fill unfilled deck spots.
Good luck with your deck.
livingrock on Postman's Fear Delivery
1 year ago
I'm assuming that your lands haven't been adjusted for multicolor and not that you need that many basics. Here's what I have for your acquire board:
Bojuka Bog Dismal Backwater Command Tower Dreadship Reef Evolving Wilds Rogue's Passage Dimir Aqueduct
Sol Ring Darksteel Ingot Replicating Ring Lantern of the Lost Tormod's Crypt Honored Heirloom Slip Through Space Ghostly Flicker Dauthi Horror Crypt Incursion
multimedia on The Best Urza
1 year ago
Hey, well done work in progress for your first Commander deck on a budget. Good card sense upgrading the precon.
For the manabase consider upgrades of the Pain lands?
The Pain lands have been reprinted in the last two Standard sets, making them the least expensive right now. Now is the best time to get them since they will only increase in price as time goes on. Tyrite Sanctum is a nice budget utility land especially with The Flesh is Weak.
I'm playing Urza on a low budget and these are some cards, most less than $2, that I've found to be helpful.
- Ornithopter of Paradise: artifact creature for ramp.
- The Flesh is Weak: make Urza and all other creatures you control at the time an artifact. -1/-1 can wreck opponent's nonThopter token strategies who can be blockers against Constructs. Tyrite Sanctum makes it so you don't have to control nonartifact legendary creatures including Urza when you play Weak since it can put a +1/+1 counter on any legendary creature you control turns after to make it an artifact.
- Liquimetal Torque: mana rock for ramp or make Urza or any other nonland permanent an artifact. Pair with Master Transmuter to bounce any nonland permanent.
- Soundwave, Sonic Spy Flip: new Transformers card that's good in multiplayer Commander, no mana cost to cast your choice of opponent's instant or sorcery. Constructs make it consistent to trigger with a high mana value and Soundwave, Superior Captain can be a repeatable source of artifacts.
- Sculpting Steel: good in multiplayer Commander because it can be any artifact on the battlefield and it can change with Master Transmuter bounce.
- Armix, Filigree Thrasher: because of menace it can be repeatable opponent creature removal, Losheel, Clockwork Scholar helps a lot too.
Being able to make Urza an artifact can make Urza a threat with menace to do Commander damage especially with Cranial Plating. Urza surviving nonartifact creature board wipes can give you a huge advantage. Making other nonartifact creatures an artifact is good too especially Padeem, Consul of Innovation for much more protection.
Some cards to consider cutting:
- Orzhov Basilica, Dimir Aqueduct, Azorius Chancery, Skycloud Expanse
- Filigree Attendant, Darksteel Juggernaut, Etched Champion
- Gingerbrute, Burnished Hart
- Chief of the Foundry
Filigree Attendant, Darksteel Juggernaut, Etched Champion are just beaters, they don't do anything else. You don't really need them since you'll have plenty of better beaters, Constructs, who don't cost mana. Burnished Hart is slow for ramp. Chief of the Foundry is subpar for an anthem effect, it's a lesser Master of Etherium.
Good luck with your deck.
DreadKhan on unthinkable apocalypse
1 year ago
I'm not certain the Commander has enough explosive power to consistently win vs 2 decks, but I have very good results in 1 v 1 with my Rakdos deck, and it often has spare cards by the end of the game, be it wipe or removal, because the deck just runs so much of those, with lots of the removal hitting more than 1 target (I love stuff like Phyrexian Purge, Fire Covenant, Make an Example, and Volcanic Offering can each be a terror of a card, and a deck running all of them has lots of pinpoint removal that will clear lots of stuff out. Ashes to Ashes and Reckless Spite also exist fwiw, and if you aren't certain you'll have creatures out, Tergrid's Shadow can do a bit of work, as can Plaguecrafter or Demon's Disciple, cards Sedris can recur for 2B even. Another value card is Dredge the Mire, which can cheat in the 3 worst creatures in people's graveyards, note certain creatures will kill you if you control them, so check before playing! Necromantic Selection not only clears the field, it also gives you back the best thing, this is extra juicy if you use some sort of Indestructible creature(s) that won't die. If you consistently have a fairly big creature, or one with Deathtouch and Lifelink, Chandra's Ignition is one sided by definition, one of many cards that shines brightly with Basilisk Collar (which is also very good with Jaya Ballard, Task Mage or even good old Banshee, Jaya's 6 damage wipe really is amazing if you've got Collar on her, though it'll kill her too). If you expect to have multiple opponents, Goad is a very strong effect, Karazikar, the Eye Tyrant is potentially pretty solid, lots of card draw. There is also Kardur, Doomscourge that will force everyone's hand. Spectacular Showdown is a great card if you've actually got a board of your own to finish people off, keep in mind that on your next turn, you not only won't have been attacked by any pre-existing creature, everyone else will have swung for the fences with Double Strike, and they will likely have nothing left to defend with, making your Double Strikers very effective. Another Goad source that is great with a creature heavy board is Agitator Ant, which is hilarious a lot of the time. If you're using Goad effects, War Tax can let an opponent have a way around them, if there is a tax to attack Goad fails, and War Cadence is absolutely devastating with Goad, even a tax of 1 to block can make blocking impossible for weenie decks, and you can use either on anyone's turn.
As you've got access to Blue, there are a few non-Rakdos tricks you can use, the most hilarious I know of is Mass Diminish, note that it lasts until your next turn and have a good laugh. There is also Sudden Spoiling, which is powerful but lasts for that turn, or Polymorphist's Jest, which is similarly a 1 turn solution. I use Mass Diminish more aggressively, to make a player hyper-vulnerable to attackers (and make them unable to counter attack), getting two casts is just savage. Visions of Duplicity can create some chaos with it's two casts, Cultural Exchange is obscene if someone else has better creatures. Bident of Thassa is glorious if you want both of it's effects, forcing people to attack is incredibly mean, and this doesn't require you to run a weenie like Goblin Diplomats, but that's also a fun card fwiw. If you're going to run Oriq Loremage, you might slip in a huge creature to Unearth, something like Dragon Tyrant can be huge and not break the bank, Double Strike and Firebreathing are really good together, and you won't have to pay the upkeep with Unearth, he's dead before that matters.
I was looking at your land count and average Mana Value and I think you probably are running too few lands at this point, it's very tempting to cut them, but 30 is probably too few for a MV that is over 2.5. You might get away with adding 2 mana ramp, but I'd still aim for at least 36 lands (or MDFCs that count as a land, you probably already have the best two MDFCs in those colours, but people also run Malakir Rebirth Flip) to ensure you can consistently cast stuff. There is a smattering of ways you can run less lands/ramp, but these all come with downsides, but in Grixis you can run 4 solid Bounce Lands, Dimir Aqueduct and Guildless Commons should be in here as well if you want a lower land count, these let you hit another land drop when you draw them. You might also run stuff like Thran Dynamo or Worn Powerstone to help you hit higher MVs sooner, ramping by only 1 mana feels bad compared to hitting a land drop most of the time, there is also Gilded Lotus, but hitting 5 mana can be rough. Coalition Relic can charge for 1 turn, Skyclave Relic is super versatile/rugged, and Everflowing Chalice can be huge if you want, 6-10 mana is absurd but sometimes comes up. Cantrips like Ponder and Preordain are also good at digging for a land, but I know in Talrand it stings pretty bad when you Preordain and don't find a land and I needed one. As for some cards to remove, I'll take a look, but if I'm trying to build a deck that can handle attention, I look first at cards that will hurt only 1 player, unless that card will almost certainly end that player, either right away or in a few turns.
A few to consider removing (I may be missing why you have them in, so user discretion is advised or something): Archive Trap, Outpost Siege, Palace Siege, Ponder, Preordain, Haunting Echoes, Cruel Ultimatum (this seems insanely hard to cast, and hits only 1 player, unless you can copy it I'd run Captive Audience if I want to hose one player hard), Cranial Extraction, Cormela, Glamour Thief, Kess, Dissident Mage, Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger, Lobber Crew, Loyal Subordinate, Nekusar, the Mindrazer, Obeka, Brute Chronologist, Phenax, God of Deception, Runo Stromkirk Flip, Spear Spewer, and Thermo-Alchemist.Some maybe cards include Angrath, Captain of Chaos, and Cryptolith Fragment Flip (for another land, maybe a better rock, there is Thought Vessel, but fixing is sweet in Grixis).
Hope some of this is helpful!
Zobeth on Yarok, the Desecrated [cEDH]
2 years ago
So I know you dislike this but I would definitely add Thassa's Oracle + Demonic Consultation or Tainted Pact. They are wincons that can just steal games after your opponents have used their resources trying to stop someone else doing the same thing. Demonic/Tainted can also help you find a piece to your combo if youre just missing one thing.
Another thing would be Cultivator Colossus + a bounce land such as Dimir Aqueduct. If lotus cobra is on the field its not techincally infinite mana but it will let you draw your entire deck + the cobra mana will let you play your combo pieces or simply draw your deck into thassas.
Intellect Devourer is also a huge disruption card that will generate tons of advantage for yourself especially if you can flicker/bounce it.
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