Dimir Aqueduct

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Legality

Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pauper Legal
Pauper Duel Commander Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal

Dimir Aqueduct

Land

Dimir Aqueduct enters the battlefield tapped.

When Dimir Aqueduct enters the battlefield, return a land you control to its owner's hand.

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multimedia on Urza

1 day ago

Hey, well done work in progress for your first Commander deck on a budget. Good card sense upgrading the precon.

For the manabase consider upgrades of the Pain lands?

The Pain lands have been reprinted in the last two Standard sets, making them the least expensive right now. Now is the best time to get them since they will only increase in price as time goes on. Tyrite Sanctum is a nice budget utility land especially with The Flesh is Weak.


I'm playing Urza on a low budget and these are some cards, most less than $2, that I've found to be helpful.

  • Ornithopter of Paradise: artifact creature for ramp.
  • The Flesh is Weak: make Urza and all other creatures you control at the time an artifact. -1/-1 can wreck opponent's nonThopter token strategies who can be blockers against Constructs. Tyrite Sanctum makes it so you don't have to control nonartifact legendary creatures including Urza when you play Weak since it can put a +1/+1 counter on any legendary creature you control turns after to make it an artifact.
  • Liquimetal Torque: mana rock for ramp or make Urza or any other nonland permanent an artifact. Pair with Master Transmuter to bounce any nonland permanent.
  • Soundwave, Sonic Spy  Flip: new Transformers card that's good in multiplayer Commander, no mana cost to cast your choice of opponent's instant or sorcery. Constructs make it consistent to trigger with a high mana value and Soundwave, Superior Captain can be a repeatable source of artifacts.
  • Sculpting Steel: good in multiplayer Commander because it can be any artifact on the battlefield and it can change with Master Transmuter bounce.
  • Armix, Filigree Thrasher: because of menace it can be repeatable opponent creature removal, Losheel, Clockwork Scholar helps a lot too.

Being able to make Urza an artifact can make Urza a threat with menace to do Commander damage especially with Cranial Plating. Urza surviving nonartifact creature board wipes can give you a huge advantage. Making other nonartifact creatures an artifact is good too especially Padeem, Consul of Innovation for much more protection.


Some cards to consider cutting:

Filigree Attendant, Darksteel Juggernaut, Etched Champion are just beaters, they don't do anything else. You don't really need them since you'll have plenty of better beaters, Constructs, who don't cost mana. Burnished Hart is slow for ramp. Chief of the Foundry is subpar for an anthem effect, it's a lesser Master of Etherium.

Good luck with your deck.

DreadKhan on unthinkable apocalypse

2 weeks ago

I'm not certain the Commander has enough explosive power to consistently win vs 2 decks, but I have very good results in 1 v 1 with my Rakdos deck, and it often has spare cards by the end of the game, be it wipe or removal, because the deck just runs so much of those, with lots of the removal hitting more than 1 target (I love stuff like Phyrexian Purge, Fire Covenant, Make an Example, and Volcanic Offering can each be a terror of a card, and a deck running all of them has lots of pinpoint removal that will clear lots of stuff out. Ashes to Ashes and Reckless Spite also exist fwiw, and if you aren't certain you'll have creatures out, Tergrid's Shadow can do a bit of work, as can Plaguecrafter or Demon's Disciple, cards Sedris can recur for 2B even. Another value card is Dredge the Mire, which can cheat in the 3 worst creatures in people's graveyards, note certain creatures will kill you if you control them, so check before playing! Necromantic Selection not only clears the field, it also gives you back the best thing, this is extra juicy if you use some sort of Indestructible creature(s) that won't die. If you consistently have a fairly big creature, or one with Deathtouch and Lifelink, Chandra's Ignition is one sided by definition, one of many cards that shines brightly with Basilisk Collar (which is also very good with Jaya Ballard, Task Mage or even good old Banshee, Jaya's 6 damage wipe really is amazing if you've got Collar on her, though it'll kill her too). If you expect to have multiple opponents, Goad is a very strong effect, Karazikar, the Eye Tyrant is potentially pretty solid, lots of card draw. There is also Kardur, Doomscourge that will force everyone's hand. Spectacular Showdown is a great card if you've actually got a board of your own to finish people off, keep in mind that on your next turn, you not only won't have been attacked by any pre-existing creature, everyone else will have swung for the fences with Double Strike, and they will likely have nothing left to defend with, making your Double Strikers very effective. Another Goad source that is great with a creature heavy board is Agitator Ant, which is hilarious a lot of the time. If you're using Goad effects, War Tax can let an opponent have a way around them, if there is a tax to attack Goad fails, and War Cadence is absolutely devastating with Goad, even a tax of 1 to block can make blocking impossible for weenie decks, and you can use either on anyone's turn.

As you've got access to Blue, there are a few non-Rakdos tricks you can use, the most hilarious I know of is Mass Diminish, note that it lasts until your next turn and have a good laugh. There is also Sudden Spoiling, which is powerful but lasts for that turn, or Polymorphist's Jest, which is similarly a 1 turn solution. I use Mass Diminish more aggressively, to make a player hyper-vulnerable to attackers (and make them unable to counter attack), getting two casts is just savage. Visions of Duplicity can create some chaos with it's two casts, Cultural Exchange is obscene if someone else has better creatures. Bident of Thassa is glorious if you want both of it's effects, forcing people to attack is incredibly mean, and this doesn't require you to run a weenie like Goblin Diplomats, but that's also a fun card fwiw. If you're going to run Oriq Loremage, you might slip in a huge creature to Unearth, something like Dragon Tyrant can be huge and not break the bank, Double Strike and Firebreathing are really good together, and you won't have to pay the upkeep with Unearth, he's dead before that matters.

I was looking at your land count and average Mana Value and I think you probably are running too few lands at this point, it's very tempting to cut them, but 30 is probably too few for a MV that is over 2.5. You might get away with adding 2 mana ramp, but I'd still aim for at least 36 lands (or MDFCs that count as a land, you probably already have the best two MDFCs in those colours, but people also run Malakir Rebirth  Flip) to ensure you can consistently cast stuff. There is a smattering of ways you can run less lands/ramp, but these all come with downsides, but in Grixis you can run 4 solid Bounce Lands, Dimir Aqueduct and Guildless Commons should be in here as well if you want a lower land count, these let you hit another land drop when you draw them. You might also run stuff like Thran Dynamo or Worn Powerstone to help you hit higher MVs sooner, ramping by only 1 mana feels bad compared to hitting a land drop most of the time, there is also Gilded Lotus, but hitting 5 mana can be rough. Coalition Relic can charge for 1 turn, Skyclave Relic is super versatile/rugged, and Everflowing Chalice can be huge if you want, 6-10 mana is absurd but sometimes comes up. Cantrips like Ponder and Preordain are also good at digging for a land, but I know in Talrand it stings pretty bad when you Preordain and don't find a land and I needed one. As for some cards to remove, I'll take a look, but if I'm trying to build a deck that can handle attention, I look first at cards that will hurt only 1 player, unless that card will almost certainly end that player, either right away or in a few turns.

A few to consider removing (I may be missing why you have them in, so user discretion is advised or something): Archive Trap, Outpost Siege, Palace Siege, Ponder, Preordain, Haunting Echoes, Cruel Ultimatum (this seems insanely hard to cast, and hits only 1 player, unless you can copy it I'd run Captive Audience if I want to hose one player hard), Cranial Extraction, Cormela, Glamour Thief, Kess, Dissident Mage, Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger, Lobber Crew, Loyal Subordinate, Nekusar, the Mindrazer, Obeka, Brute Chronologist, Phenax, God of Deception, Runo Stromkirk  Flip, Spear Spewer, and Thermo-Alchemist.Some maybe cards include Angrath, Captain of Chaos, and Cryptolith Fragment  Flip (for another land, maybe a better rock, there is Thought Vessel, but fixing is sweet in Grixis).

Hope some of this is helpful!

Zobeth on yarok

3 months ago

So I know you dislike this but I would definitely add Thassa's Oracle + Demonic Consultation or Tainted Pact. They are wincons that can just steal games after your opponents have used their resources trying to stop someone else doing the same thing. Demonic/Tainted can also help you find a piece to your combo if youre just missing one thing.

Another thing would be Cultivator Colossus + a bounce land such as Dimir Aqueduct. If lotus cobra is on the field its not techincally infinite mana but it will let you draw your entire deck + the cobra mana will let you play your combo pieces or simply draw your deck into thassas.

Intellect Devourer is also a huge disruption card that will generate tons of advantage for yourself especially if you can flicker/bounce it.

Grind on Rougueishly Rogueish

4 months ago

Cool deck!!!!!!
A couple ideas for your consideration:
Point removal: i like Reality Shift as it can hit indestructible creatures.
Lands: i like Dimir Aqueduct as it can help you hit another land drop if you can tolerate a tapland.
If you mill your opponents, its good to run graveyard hate. Some decks like muldrotha thrive on being milled. Scavenger Grounds, Stonespeaker Crystal, Soul-Guide Lantern, and Nihil Spellbomb are a few playable options.
An easy cut is bonesplitter. If you want equipment, Mask of Memory, Sword of Vengeance, or Whispersilk Cloak are probably better.
Also, Changelings are rogues: maybe Shapesharer or Cairn Wanderer are interesting.
Anyway, just some thoughts, cheers and have fun!!!!

DreadKhan on Cheap dragon

9 months ago

Yeah, 21 is quite low by competitive standards even, where people often have an average MV of spells of 2 or less, and they usually care about hitting 1 or 2 lands. Like I mentioned above, you should probably be running quite a few more lands, for a 5 colour deck I'd 15-20 lands that can make Green mana, and aim for less of the other colours, because as long as you have Green mana you can cast Green spells to find the others, most people find this works pretty well. I would expect you'd want to hit at least 5 land drops most games for your deck to be 'firing on all cylinders', and according to https://www.mtgnexus.com/tools/drawodds/ which is a hypergeometric calculator, you should probably run almost (or even) double the lands. If you keep some ramp in your deck, you can shave lands down, but keep in mind that if most of your mana sources are 3 mana, you really do need to hit 3 mana to be doing anything. To hit your 3rd land drop reasonably often (for better than 70% chance of drawing at least 3 lands) you will want 33 lands. This will make it pretty hard to cast Tiamat 'on time' (turn 7), let alone early, which is almost always an asset.

If you end up finding it incredibly hard to cut cards, you can lower your land count a few if you run lands like Golgari Rot Farm and Dimir Aqueduct, as hitting one of these lands will mean you found 2 lands in a sense. These are risky lands I must add, because people can blow them up sometimes. I wouldn't expect mass land destruction, and you could certainly mention in Rule 0 that you 'don't like playing against land destruction'. You could even specify targeted land destruction, but most players don't run Strip Mine in every deck, and it's less common in more casual games. I wouldn't go below 30, even if you're running many of those Bounce lands.

Also, just noticed, you definitely need Basics, at least Forest should be in here, you can run as many of a Basic land (there are 6 of them, Wastes is the colourless one, which isn't a basic land type) as you want in your deck. I would think +5 Forests would be a good start, but you may need as many as 10. You probably want 1 or 2 of the other Basic types, that gives you enough Basic lands to find with ramp spells.

Phule451 on The Land of Confusion

1 year ago

Though they do enter tapped, I’d recommend bounce lands such as Dimir Aqueduct and Simic Growth Chamber as they basically give you an extra landfall trigger on a single land.

TheoryCrafter on Annowanna make you mill

1 year ago

I really like how you have your deck synergize well with your graveyard. Normally I would cringe seeing Mesmeric Orb in a deck, but you made it work to your advantage.

I don't think you need to replace spells with lands as much as find spells with a lower mana cost. For example, Visara is a good card, but in my opinion the cost is too high to justify for a non-Rogue creature. Have you considered replacing her with either Nighthowler (you can attach it to Consuming Aberration and give it some protection from players exiling their own graveyards), a tutor card (such as Demonic Tutor or Mastermind's Acquisition) or even a counter spell (such as Didn't Say Please, Psychic Strike or Thought Collapse). Another example is Mirko Vosk. It goes well with your overall strategy, but for the same amount of mana Mind Grind can get around opponents with Hexproof despite milling one less land and you can cast sooner if necessary.

Speaking of Hexproof, Maddening Cacophony and Soaring Thought-Thief also get around it.

As for lands, unless you intend on adding Amulet of Vigor and Ghirapur Orrery at a later date, Having Coral Atoll and Everglades could do your strategy more harm than good since you have to remove other lands from the battlefield only for them to be tapped upon entering. If you choose to add Amulet of Vigor and Ghirapur Orrery, may I also suggest adding Dimir Aqueduct? If you choose to replace Coral Atoll and Everglade, May I suggest lands that allow you to search for lands including, but not limited to, Esper Panorama and Terramorphic Expanse?

Thank you for reading me out. I hope this helps. Happy Hunting!

Neotrup on Dress Down interaction

1 year ago

Fortunately it's not a new ability, and Humility has been around for a while. Unfortunately the rule I referenced was changed when Ixalan was released, so you can find plenty of forums saying creatures will enter with the counters and plenty saying they won't, and both sides were right when they said it. To this end, I'd refer you to the Wizard's page that discussed this rules change: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/ixalan-comprehensive-rules-changes-2017-09-28

The relevant part being: "So this rule's changing. Now, to determine what replacement effects will apply to a permanent entering the battlefield, you look at continuous effects that modify that permanent's characteristics coming from the permanent itself along with those that already exist and will affect that permanent. Dimir Aqueduct enters the battlefield untapped under Blood Moon. Humility causes creatures with modular to enter without their +1/+1 counters. Metallic Mimic can distribute +1/+1 counters happily to your army of Ferrets under Arcane Adaptation."

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