Arbor Elf
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pauper Legal
Pauper Duel Commander Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Arbor Elf

Creature — Elf Druid

: Untap target Forest.

Azoth2099 on Snake Lady is Back

1 week ago

drader Hey man! So here are my suggestions:

Number one, I think you need way more mana dorks. Arbor Elf, Llanowar Elves, Fyndhorn Elves, Elvish Mystic,Elves of Deep Shadow & Deathrite Shaman are all great options. Other cards like Farseek, Nature's Lore, Three Visits, Dark Ritual & Culling the Weak are also always great to have access to.

It looks like you need a bit more card draw as well, I'd recommend Necropotence, Dark Confidant, Dark Tutelage, Ad Nauseam, Toski, Bearer of Secrets & Scroll Rack.

I know they can get expensive, but a few Tutors are essential for a smooth game plan. A few cheaper options are Diabolic Tutor, Profane Tutor, Time of Need, Beseech the Queen & Shared Summons. Diabolic Intent & Worldly Tutor are also relatively cheap due to recent print runs.

Metallic Mimic could also work wonders here, allowing your Snake tokens to host more -1/-1 counters, helping the deck power itself. Young Wolf accomplishes something similar.

Let me know how you feel about these recommendations!

RCD2023 on Lathiel, Who Blots Out the Sun

3 weeks ago

hello rakdosrunner!!

i really enjoyed the enforce that u had describing the deck and the mechanics.

i'm playing Lathiel for a long long time and i'm updating him a lot since then.

all the cards that u described i alredy test it, some of then still in the deck but mostly i had cut from the deck in order to be fastier and be more "Go for the troat" (my playgroup dont play easy haha).

firstly i wanna say the awesome cards that i wouldn't dare to touch that u metion before: Aetherflux Reservoir Authority of the Consuls Mangara, the Diplomat True Conviction Worldly Tutor Teferi's Protection Ozolith, the Shattered Spire Branching Evolution Light of Promise Well of Lost Dreams Scholar of New Horizons Tribute to the World Tree Esper Sentinel

it took me a long time to get this deck better and i still getting some frustations but if you like to consider, here some tips of cards to be implemented in order to have a better experience with it: ( mostly of this cards i proxed it because i dont wanna spend a lot of money and because i dont have a headache changing they every 2 months when wizards bring some new things )

starting with the nasty combos :

God Mode ( infinity mana + infinity draw :D ) : Argothian Elder or Priest of Titania + Quirion Ranger+ Ashaya, Soul of the Wild + Beast Whisperer with Eternal Witness in the deck u can even cast your grave again

Lathiel Gatling Gun: Walking Ballista + Heliod, Sun-Crowned or Cleric Class

“Life moves pretty fast..” — Ferris Bueller’s Spike Feeder + Light of Promise

ramp : Marwyn, the Nurturer : counters will get him a good ramp Mirari's Wake : awesome ramp Land Tax: can save you in early game Burgeoning : get ahead Priest of Titania : every elf in the battlefield Exploration : get ahead again Arbor Elf : very good with Selesnya Sanctuary or some mana that u need Mana Reflection: awesome ramp Circle of Dreams Druid : gaeas crandle in creature Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx : why not ? proxy <3 Crop Rotation: get those good lands in battlefield Carpet of Flowers: very good against 2 or more people Smothering Tithe : just perfect

draw : Generous Patron: our green budget risky study, perfect in lathiel Guardian Project : good in general The Great Henge : we have big creatures so probably will cost onle 2 green mana Toski, Bearer of Secrets : unstapable, can't be countered and draw Archivist of Oghma: meh... sometimes good sometimes not, but its 2 mana

tutors: Finale of Devastation : go for the troat Enlightened Tutor: very good tutor in our deck Eladamri's Call : get those pieces that u need Fauna Shaman : get those pieces that u need Defense of the Heart: this is funny, but moste of times works haha Yisan, the Wanderer Bard : good in general Natural Order : to the battlefield! Primal Command : say goodbye to ur grave zombie players

utility: Akroma's Will: defense or end game Alhammarret's Archive : it's 5 mana, but double life gain and double draw Eternal Witness : u have awesome cretures that people wanna destroy so... also good piece of combo God Mode Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines : Hushbringer + Hardened Scales, but better Serra Ascendant: sooooo goood in this deck ... first piece to be tutored by yisan, the wanderer bard Angel of Destiny: go for the troat Ashaya, Soul of the Wild: combo, but also a big creature Overwhelming Stampede : go for the troat Walking Ballista: good in general andd combo Cleric Class: combo but also grave Spike Feeder : Snowball effect, one of the best synergy of lathiel, 'each turn' change counters for life/

Good interactions : Aura Shards , Force of Vigor 2 ducks 1 shot ,Farewell exile :) , Kenrith's Transformation (interaction with draw)

Helnas on

2 months ago

Dorks die voor 3+ mana tappen: Priest of Titania, Circle of Dreams Druid, Elvish Archdruid ,Karametra's Acolyte, Marwyn, the Nurturer, Wirewood Channeler

Combo's:

Sword of the Paruns of Umbral Mantle + dork die voor 4 mana tapped = infinite

Staff of Domination + dork die voor 5 mana tapped = infinite

Cloudstone Curio + Wirewood Symbiote + dork die voor 3 mana tapped +1 cmc elf

Combo's met Ashaya, Soul of the Wild op het veld.

Quirion Ranger + dork die voor 2 mana tapped.

Quirion Ranger + Lightning Greaves of Concordant Crossroads = tap ashaya voor mana, speel quirion, tap quirion voor mana, return quirion, untap ashaya.

Scryb Ranger + dork die voor 3 mana tapped.

Argothian Elder zonder summoning sickness = beide teams infinite mana

Combo's met Temur Sabertooth op het veld.

Wirewood Symbiote + 1 cmc elf om te bouncen + mana dork die voor 5+ tapped.

Lightning Greaves of Concordant Crossroads of Thousand-Year Elixir + 2 cmc dork die voor 5 tapped, 3 cmc dork die voor 6 tapped of 4 cmc dork die voor 7 tapped.

Eternal Witness + Vitalize + creatures die voor 7 mana tappen.

Eternal Witness + Benefactor's Draught + creatures die voor 8 mana tappen.

Combo's involving lands

Elvish Guidance + Arbor Elf + een untapper zoals Umbral Mantle of Sword of the Paruns

Argothian Elder +Wirewood Lodge + Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx of Gaea's Cradle

Aanvallen met Argothian Elder + Maze of Ith + infinite mana outlet

multimedia on Lathril, blade of the elves

4 months ago

Hey, well done so far upgrading the precon.

Some Elf upgrades to consider:

Copperhorn Scout pairs well with Immaculate Magistrate or Timberwatch Elf to have a repeatable untap effect to make Lathril huge when you attack with Elves. With Immaculate since the counters stay on the creature then can keep Scout and Lathril huge. Fauna Shaman repeatable tutor effect can be useful with Elves that are not impactful enough in the game to tutor for a more impactful creature. Fauna brings a toolbox effect with Elves since she can get any creature and untap effects work really well with her to chain tutor.

Elvish Harbinger and Circle of Dreams Druid are much more price then the Elves you could cut for them, but they're among the better Elves in the tribe. Circle is another mass mana combo Elf, it's Gaea's Cradle effect and Harbinger is an Elf tutor that's also a mana Elf who can make black mana. Elvish Guidance isn't an Elf, but it's another mass mana effect and after enchanting a Forest pair with Arbor Elf.

Some nonElf upgrades to consider:

Staff of Domination is most powerful artifact with Elves since it can make infinite green mana with any of the mass mana Elves (Priest, Archdruid, Circle, Marwyn, etc.) if they can make at least 5 mana. Infinite green is then paid into Staff to draw as much of your deck as you want to find Ezuri wincon or to get at least 10 Elves in your control. Lathril's tap 10 Elves to make each opponent lose 10 life can be a wincon with Staff since Staff can infinite untap Lathril and 10 Elves.

Cultist of the Absolute is busted with Lathril for only 1 mana. Without any other boost to p/t it makes Lathril a 5/6 flying/deathtouch/menace threat. The combination of having menace and deathtouch makes combat a nightmare for opponent. Lathril provides the creature sac fodder that's needed to fuel Absolute. Patriarch's Bidding is mass reanimation of Elves for 5 mana.

Door of Destinies isn't a good anthem effect card since it doesn't pump anything without casting an Elf the same turn you play it meaning need more than 4 mana to get any value at all. For 4 mana you can do much better if an anthem effect is what you want.

Some land upgrades to consider:

Over a couple of turns Rogue's Passage alone with Lathril can build you an Elf army, that's pretty good for a land. Twilight Mire for 1 green mana can make BB and that's helpful when green mana is much more plentiful than black mana, but black mana is also important.

Woodland Chasm is another Golgari dual land that Verdant or Wood to get. Blooming Marsh will rarely ETB untapped making it much worse land then it appears especially for it's price. Fast lands are better in formats where you can play 4x of them for consistency of having them the first three turns of a game. Fast lands are overpriced dual lands in Commander.

Good luck with your deck.

enpc on Elven Kingdom

5 months ago

With elves, the big selling point is how much mana the deck can produce, which in turn allows you to run less lands. But to make this work, you should be running basically every 1 drop elf dork, i.e. Elvish Mystic, Fyndhorn Elves, Arbor Elf, hell, even Boreal Druid (since your land base is almost entirely green). Running a bunch of 3 mana ramp spells over the 1 drop mana dorks (who all progress the elf theme) seems counter productive. If you are going to run any land fetch, cards like Harvest Season which take advantage of your dork heavy build are goingto be much better since they will potentially pull 6-8 lands from the deck in one go.

Green Sun's Zenith and Chord of Calling are a bit expensive, but are definitiely worth slots in the deck if you can get a copy of them. I agree with multimedia, you don't need that many overrun effects, especially if you are running Ezuri. However if you wanted to add a card (which albeit is expensive), Finale of Devastation pulls double duty for the deck.

Yisan, the Wanderer Bard is also a nice card for elf decks as he just becomes rolling advantage.

multimedia on Elven Kingdom

5 months ago

Hey, well done so far for your first green deck.

Some changes to consider, to further reduce price, up power level and reduce mana curve:

Emerald Medallion is the worst expensive price card here. All the Medallions are way overpriced for what they do because they aren't getting reprinted. Castle Garenbrig is not worth $5, you don't need it's small amount of ramp when you can get more ramp from Elves. With Elves, Elvish Guidance is $1 alternative for Cradle, bonus interaction with Arbor Elf.

Staff of Domination can keep power level high without breaking the bank. It's a combo piece with key mana Elves to make infinite green mana to then draw into a wincon. Regal Force and Eternal Witness are creatures who have same effects of noncreature cards, but since they're creatures they can be tutored for.

Triumph of the Hordes, Overrun, Overwhelming Stampede, Ezuri, Siege Behemoth, Forerunners, Thunderfoot, all of these to overrun your Elves is overkill. Consider cutting some of these for more tutors? Pyre of Heroes, Fauna Shaman, Summoner's Pact, Chord, Harbinger can all get Ezuri. Choose one of Forerunners, Thunderfoot or Behemoth? Fierce Empath, Fauna, Pact, Chord can get it.

Good luck with your deck.

Maximariusmagillius on Viconia the Graveyard Hermit

6 months ago

I appreciate the suggestions! I do currently have one, Skull Prophet.

My thought process behind this deck is to mill your own library and play out of the graveyard. A lot of the cards don't ever get to make it into your hand, so it wouldn't make a ton of sense to put things in here that could not be gotten back. That's why there are only 5 non-creature non-land things.

That being said there are tons of creature based mana dorks out there, Arbor Elf, Llanowar Elves, Elvish Mystic, and even my all time favorite Incubation Druid. However I don't think that they would help further my goal of getting stuff in and out of the graveyard, or comboing with that. They could just as easily be replaced with a land, which would combo with other stuff in the deck, Centaur Vinecrasher, Eccentric Farmer, Turntimber Sower so I would be hesitant to cut more lands than I need to.

Lord of Extinction is a great card but Lhurgoyf is great too and a fifth of the price too. They both have their pros and cons, Lord of Extinction has a higher CMC and one more colors. Lhurgoyf toughness is equal to 1+ the number of cards, if my opponent exiles all graveyards that leaves him on the battlefield. If I decide to cut anything, it would be Creeping Dread and I would replace it with Lord of Extinction.

I look forward to hearing more of your suggestions!

wallisface on Elder Dragon Conduit

7 months ago

Fair enough. I still think my other comments were valid (You have too-high odds of hitting an Arbor Elf off of Transmogrify, and your deck is trying to play two distinctly different gameplans, where it would most certainly be stronger if it was build to accomodate just one of these archetypes).

As far as more budget-friendly creatures to Transmogrify into, some good options include Serra's Emissary, Stormtide Leviathan, Sphinx of the Steel Wind, Terastodon, Inkwell Leviathan, and Sepulchral Primordial. Personally from that batch i’d say Serra's Emissary and Terastodon feel the strongest - though whatever you go with, I think it’s more important to not have Arbor Elf in your deck messing with your win odds. There are loads of ways to ramp without needing creatures - and there are loads of ways to easily make creature tokens to Transmogrify without risk.

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