Sorcery — Arcane
Name a nonland card. Search target player's graveyard, hand, and library for all cards with that name and remove them from the game. Then that player shuffles his or her library.
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Cranial Extraction Discussion
5 months ago
We also mustn’t forget blacks ability to attack the entire graveyard with things like;
And go after specific cards in your hand, library and graveyard like;
9 months ago
Black has a lot more options. Name Hate removal galore and punishment cards that get rid of creatures for attacking you.
Also limited to black, Name Hate cards like Extirpate which even has split second so it will resolve before your opponent can do something about it. Another good one is Cranial Extraction. It does not target a creature and the creature you name does not need to be in play. If their yard is loaded, then Haunting Echoes will ruin their day. Surgical Extraction can get cast without black mana. The big drawback is you need to know the name, or there needs to be a copy in their yard. There are some that let you look at their hand, like Lobotomy and then get rid of them.
1 year ago
Okay I ordered couple more cards got the Cranial Extraction and I was missing the Bitter Ordeal and Cyclonic Rift two major key players in the dilemma. Another player being Junktroller and Lim-Dul's Vault He will allow me to keep casting these cards.
I'll have a rematch with the player and play him a few more times and report back.
1 year ago
Ouch, that's what I get for answering late in the night, THCue. The Wheel is a replacement effect, so one of my alternative win con suggestions is indeed incorrect. Anyways, as for other possible solutions to get rid of enchantments that don't involve counterspells or selective removal from the library/hand/graveyard, I definitely wouldn't recommend Steal Enchantment : albeit the low CMC, this card is too limited in its usage. Moreover, stealing the Wheel of Sun and Moon from one of your opponent's control, won't change the enchanted player, so actually, it's effect will still apply.
As squadcarxmar pointed out, Dimir doesn't have a lot of specific interaction for enchantments. Since bouncing to hand doesn't seem a very viable option in this case, as two mana enchantment can be easily re-cast on the next turn, I'd probably try to interact with the addition of more counterspells, and only as a second choice with specific exile effects, as a counterspell will more useful in most of the situations with respect to a Cranial Extraction .
1 year ago
Yeah THCue is right.
Wheel of Sun and Moon
is a replacement effect. Nothing is hitting the graveyard.
Removal can include things like Bitter Ordeal (already mentioned), Sadistic Sacrament , Nightmare Incursion , Jester's Cap , Praetor's Grasp , Cranial Extraction , and counterspells in general would handle the card. Nevinyrral's Disk can get Wheel back into their library and off the field. There are other exile cards from library effects but those are pretty good ones I listed in my opinion. Cranial might be a better bet in case it's in their hand.
Black and blue can't do a whole lot against enchantments and artifacts once they're out besides maybe bouncing them to hand with blue?
1 year ago
(For clarity, I meant that Cranial Extraction and Grasping Current only say 'search' because they involve looking through a library, not just any hidden zone. I know that Thoughtseize doesn't say 'search'.)
1 year ago
Searching isn't unique to hidden zones. Even if 'search' is the term used in cards like Cranial Extraction and Grasping Current only for the sake of simplicity because those cards also involve looking through a hidden zone, the result is that you're searching in places other than a library. With cards similar to those, you can search through a revealed zone, and more relevantly you can search through a hidden zone that isn't a library.
The top for cards of your library are a hidden zone just like the rest of your library. That still doesn't mean that searching your library is the same thing as searching the top four cards of your library, which is what other cards like Ob Nixilis, Unshackled believe it is.
1 year ago
The 'when' was a holdover that I forgot to change. It's the rest of the example that matters. So,
- "If a player searches their library, they can only find cards from the top four cards of that library."
The confusion is because Aven Mindcensor uses standard replacement effect wording that state you replace the regular search with searching a different selection of cards. It outright says that you're replacing searching your library with a different action.
Some replacement effects do replace an action with something else that includes that action ( Alhammarret's Archive , Mox Diamond ), but it's clear on those cards because they say exactly that on the card.
You are still searching, yes, but searching isn't unique to libraries, which is why this is so unclear to me. We've been able to search hands and graveyards with spells like Cranial Extraction which have existed since before Aven Mindcensor was first printed.