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Artifact Creature — Juggernaut
Darksteel Juggernaut's power and toughness are each equal to the number of artifacts you control.
Darksteel Juggernaut attacks each combat if able.
multimedia on Urza's Legacy
2 months ago
Hey, some interesting card choices for upgrades to the precon. I can tell your deck is based on the precon because I see Darksteel Juggernaut.
A kink here to work on is the avg. CMC. The mana curve is very high at 4.3 not including Organic Extinction and Mycosynth Golem. The precon mana curve is already high at 3.5 not including Thought Monitor. A higher mana curve would be fine if supported with lots more low mana cost ramp, but you cut most of the low mana cost ramp (Signets, Liquimetal, Vessel) from the precon. There's only 6 ramp sources here 3 CMC or less which is low.
You could have a difficult time casting Urza using artifact creature affinity with only 7 artifact creatures 3 CMC or less. You really can't count on Urza's artifact affinity to first cast him and having not many ramp sources, ramp can't be counted on either. Master Transmuter is a great upgrade, she helps a lot when playing a lower amount of ramp. To improve the mana curve which will help gameplay consider choosing a few of the better high mana cost cards and cutting the others? Most 4 drops here are much better than the 5-7+ drops and that's good for the mana curve.
Research Thief, The Mightstone and Weakstone Meld, Blightsteel Colossus, Mycosynth Golem, Thopter Assembly, Tezzeret, Master of the Bridge, Organic Extinction, Darksteel Forge, Mycosynth Lattice, Kuldotha Forgemaster, Cyberdrive Awakener these are the better 5-7 CMC cards here. The others could be cut to lower the mana curve because they're simply not as good as these.
- Thief, it's repeatable draw effect is good when you want to be attacking with Constructs.
- Weakstone because you have Urza, Lord Protector Meld.
- Blightsteel, best secondary attacker and because you have Master Transmuter.
- Golem because Urza is a consistent way to create artifacts.
- Assembly because you have Time Sieve.
- Tezzeret because of Constructs.
- Extinction because of Constructs.
- Forge, best protection for all artifacts and because you have Lattice, Transmuter and Padeem.
- Awakener flying for Constructs.
Some upgrades at your price point to consider:
- Esper Sentinel, Mystic Remora
- Diabolic Intent, Fabricate
- Skullclamp (in the precon), Baleful Strix (in the precon)
- Ornithopter of Paradise, Signets and Liquimetal (in the precon)
- The Reality Chip + Sensei's Divining Top combo
- Spellskite, Skrelv, Defector Mite, Ethersworn Canonist
- Skrelv's Hive
- Counterspell, Swords to Plowshares (in the precon)
Good luck with your deck.
SilencedDax on Phylactery lich: a Rule 0 …
3 months ago
Than you for the ideas! I really like the ones you mentioned, seems great Vorthos targets for the Lich, a so much valuable object like the Crown it's perfect target haha Following the "empire" cycle you mentioned: Hand of Vecna, Eye of Vecna and The Book of Vile Darkness seem great and flavour objectives.
I like all the indestructible artifacts: Stuffy Doll, Creepy Doll, Darksteel Axe, Darksteel Citadel, Darksteel Forge, Darksteel Ingot, Darksteel Juggernaut, Darksteel Pendant, Darksteel Plate, Colossus of Akros, Darksteel Colossus, Darksteel Myr, Darksteel Relic, Kaldra Compleat, Shield of Kaldra, Necron Monolith, That Which Was Taken. I do not note the worse indestructible cards
The arficat lands as you say it would be great, at least I can be use the mono-black artifact lands (maybe there's only one).
If it was dimir or golgari I could use more liches but I can't, it's a pitty
Thank you for the ideas!
multimedia on Urza Artifacts
4 months ago
Hey, good upgrades to the precon so far.
To help with Blightsteel, other high mana cost artifacts, how about adding Master Transmuter replacing Filigree Attendant? Transmuter can cheat Colossus onto the battlefield during an opponent's turn, pseudo flash. Transmuter doesn't target that way you can put the same artifact you bounced right back onto the battlefield, interact with any artifact that has ETB ability such as Mightstone.
Because you have Blightsteel you could cut Darksteel since it's much worse, not really needed, for Spellskite to protect? Especially to protect Urza + Mightstone to meld and Spellskite becomes much better when playing Teshar. Counterspell is more prevention of opponent artifact board wipe, it can do more here than Wreck Hunter who doesn't trigger for any token that dies because a token is not considered a card.
Research Thief can provide a lot more support, repeatable draw with Constructs, much more then Darksteel Juggernaut. Phyrexian Metamorph and Sculpting Steel are powerful artifacts in multiplayer Commander because they can become something an opponent controls or something you control. They are also excellent with Transmuter to change what they are. This artifact versitialy is better than Etched Champion and Chief of the Foundry.
Good luck with your deck.
multimedia on The Best Urza
5 months ago
Hey, well done work in progress for your first Commander deck on a budget. Good card sense upgrading the precon.
For the manabase consider upgrades of the Pain lands?
The Pain lands have been reprinted in the last two Standard sets, making them the least expensive right now. Now is the best time to get them since they will only increase in price as time goes on. Tyrite Sanctum is a nice budget utility land especially with The Flesh is Weak.
I'm playing Urza on a low budget and these are some cards, most less than $2, that I've found to be helpful.
- Ornithopter of Paradise: artifact creature for ramp.
- The Flesh is Weak: make Urza and all other creatures you control at the time an artifact. -1/-1 can wreck opponent's nonThopter token strategies who can be blockers against Constructs. Tyrite Sanctum makes it so you don't have to control nonartifact legendary creatures including Urza when you play Weak since it can put a +1/+1 counter on any legendary creature you control turns after to make it an artifact.
- Liquimetal Torque: mana rock for ramp or make Urza or any other nonland permanent an artifact. Pair with Master Transmuter to bounce any nonland permanent.
- Soundwave, Sonic Spy Flip: new Transformers card that's good in multiplayer Commander, no mana cost to cast your choice of opponent's instant or sorcery. Constructs make it consistent to trigger with a high mana value and Soundwave, Superior Captain can be a repeatable source of artifacts.
- Sculpting Steel: good in multiplayer Commander because it can be any artifact on the battlefield and it can change with Master Transmuter bounce.
- Armix, Filigree Thrasher: because of menace it can be repeatable opponent creature removal, Losheel, Clockwork Scholar helps a lot too.
Being able to make Urza an artifact can make Urza a threat with menace to do Commander damage especially with Cranial Plating. Urza surviving nonartifact creature board wipes can give you a huge advantage. Making other nonartifact creatures an artifact is good too especially Padeem, Consul of Innovation for much more protection.
Some cards to consider cutting:
- Orzhov Basilica, Dimir Aqueduct, Azorius Chancery, Skycloud Expanse
- Filigree Attendant, Darksteel Juggernaut, Etched Champion
- Gingerbrute, Burnished Hart
- Chief of the Foundry
Filigree Attendant, Darksteel Juggernaut, Etched Champion are just beaters, they don't do anything else. You don't really need them since you'll have plenty of better beaters, Constructs, who don't cost mana. Burnished Hart is slow for ramp. Chief of the Foundry is subpar for an anthem effect, it's a lesser Master of Etherium.
Good luck with your deck.
6 months ago
Hey, good upgrades so far to the precon especially the manabase, you've really improved it.
These are the first cards here to consider cutting? Darksteel Juggernaut, Filigree Attendant, Etched Champion are just beaters, they don't do anything else, that's not good enough. You really don't need 4 drop beaters, you'll get plenty of better mana efficient beaters, Constructs.
Chief of the Foundry, Master of Etherium are fine, but are budget creature options, filler if you don't have anything else. +1/+1 anthem effect is small and really not needed when Constructs grow themselves with any artifact. Bronze Guardian is also just a beater and as a 5 drop it's subpar. Ward 2 is nice, but you can get actual hexproof for artifacts from better cards here, Padeem, Consul of Innovation.
More cards to consider cutting? Access Denied costs too much mana for a counterspell when you have Mana Drain or just play Counterspell? Wreck Hunter doesn't trigger for any token that was removed because it says for each card and tokens are not considered cards. Not triggering for tokens is bad when you're going to have Constructs. Kayla's Music Box is pseudo draw over turns, but you can get actual draw from better cards.
Good luck with your deck.
Housegheist on Imotekhs eternal Artifacts
6 months ago
First off: thank you for your upvote and in depth analysis. It really helped to trim some cards
I agree, that the cmc has to be a lil bit lower. My thought was, if I reanimate them I do not have to pay the cost. But sure, 3.5 is a bit high.
I cuttet Phyrexian Triniform as I think, once in a million I can trigger it’s encore. Triplicate Titan on the other hand fits the whole strategy, provides enormous evasion and evasive artifact creatures if it dies. I will give it a try, Hexmark Destroyer connects hard or creates room for other creatures… and is a necron… it’s sooo hard… but doesn’t fit that well.
But I admit that Darksteel Juggernaut is just a resilient but not always big threat… like a “win more” option. Hasn’t made the cut, as well as Diamond Mare, Phyrexian Fleshgorger and Technomancer. The last one was hard, but I do not think that I can abuse it’s ETB often enough. You where also right with Szarekh and Scarecrone, they are new to the list. I like Ugin and thought 1/3 of my spells would be enough, maybe he doesn’t make it… otherwise he provides support in pseudo-card-draw, removal and cost reduction,… have to think about it. Unfortunately Tortured Existence is not in my collection, therefore I didn’t choose it. I made also room for War Room and Phyrexia's Core (and Darksteel Citadel as well… what was I thinking :D
Mind’s Eye should provide a lot of (needed) continuous card-draw. Sculpting Steel was already in the list… but I have to ask… you would cut Mirrorworks? It is an Bramble Sovereign for ANY artifact… creatures as usual artifacts as well… it’s a bomb! :O
multimedia on Imotekhs eternal Artifacts
6 months ago
Hey, well done so far. I agree, Szarekh is less good as Commander. Imotekh can be a combo piece for infinite Necrons, that makes it better as Commander.
Szarekh seems good in the 99 though when playing Imotekh as Commander, could put artifacts in your graveyard and if you return an artifact to your hand that you milled it triggers Imotekh. Szarekh flying in combination with Imotekh's menace pump making it 5/6 and playing so many other artifacts it can consistently trigger to create Necrons.
For some cuts to get to 100 cards consider streamline the high CMC cards? The avg. CMC is high at rounded up 3.5, reducing this average can help gameplay. The best here are Wurmcoil Engine, Marionette Master, Bolas's Citadel, Their Name is Death, Noxious Gearhulk. Honestly, you could cut the others, 6 CMC or more, to reduce the mana curve.
Wurmcoil, Marionette, Triplicate Titan and Phyrexian Triniform all combo with Altar + Deathmantle. I don't think you need four huge creatures who do this. Cutting Triniform and Triplicate will not change strategy much as they're the weaknest of the four.
Some cards to consider cutting:
- Triplicate Titan and Phyrexian Triniform
- Hexmark Destroyer: only a beater, doesn't do anything else.
- Darksteel Juggernaut: only a beater, doesn't do anything else.
- Traxos, Scourge of Kroog: only a beater, doesn't do anything else.
- Diamond Mare: can get life gain from better sources.
- Phyrexian Fleshgorger: only a beater, isn't needed since you have Wurmcoil.
- Shard of the Void Dragon: triggers only on attack making it slow value for a 7 drop.
- Ugin, the Ineffable: there's too many black cards here that don't get the mana cost reduction including Imotekh.
- Batterskull: good with Stoneforge Mystic and when you can reduce equip costs, without it's subpar.
- Technomancer: fine ETB trigger, but only reanimates artifact creatures, that makes it less good than it could be. You reanimate all creatures total 6 CMC at once, with Imotekh you only create two Necrons.
Some improvements within your budget, consider more lower mana cost repeatable ways to trigger Imotekh?
- Tortured Existence --> Entreat the Dead
- Szarekh, the Silent King --> Skorpekh Destroyer
- Scarecrone --> Royal Warden
Tortured Existence, if you have two artifact creatures in hand you can alternate discarding and putting into hand each time triggering Imotekh for . Scarecrone can reanimate an artifact creature at instant speed.
Others to consider.
- Diabolic Intent (reprinted in BRO) --> Mind's Eye
- Sculpting Steel --> Mirrorworks
- Swiftfoot Boots --> Sword of the Animist
- Feed the Swarm --> Tragic Slip
- Dark Ritual --> Ghouls' Night Out
- War Room --> Temple of the False God
- Phyrexia's Core --> Barren Moor
Good luck with your deck.
KBK7101 on In Defence of Halcyon [Primer]
1 year ago
Very well thought out primer. Was really surprised to see that it was your first! The background and fonts look nice, too. Could never figure out how to get that to work properly. The deck looks great. I'm always glad to see another Rebbec/Glacian deck pop up on here. I do have a lot of recommendations and insight from the games I've played with my own Rebbec/Glacian deck.
(Side note before I get distracted - Blind Obedience has mono white color identity. The black in the reminder text does NOT count towards it's color identity.)
Cards I'd definitely recommend -
Mycosynth Lattice - Turns ALL permanents into artifacts. Perfect for Glacian. I know you said that you're mainly a budget player and that this card is in the "upgrades and future" tab, but this one shoudl definitely be near the top of that list. It's INSANELY good in this deck. Such a high price tag, though. :\ Smothering Tithe is in the same boat.
Liquimetal Torque and Liquimetal Coating - Both provide instant speed protection with Rebbec. Someone tries to cast Doom Blade on her or Glacian (or anyone else)? Tap either of these and they can become an artifact and gain Rebbec's protection.
A few more removal spells would probably be a good idea as well, it's something that my own deck struggles with as well. Dispatch is great. Dispeller's Capsule is removal and also an artifact. Duplicant and Steel Hellkite are both removal that also fill the missing 6 CMC slot in your mana curve.
There are a few tutors in that aren't super overpriced that might be worth looking into. Idyllic Tutor can help find Mechanized Production or Mirrodin Besieged. Fabricate can let you search for any artifact. Any of the artifact mage cards like Trinket Mage, Tribute Mage and Trophy Mage are also worth mentioning. They're a bit limited but they should all be relatively cheap. Another great one I've gotten a lot of use out of is Arcum Dagsson. You can sacrifice an artifact at instant speed to search up another one. Sac a myr token for Darksteel Forge? Oh yes. It also serves as protection with Rebbec as you can sac an artifact to search up one with a specific CMC (er... MV. Never gonna get used to that) that you may happen to need protection from at the time. He serves a similar role to Master Transmuter who I see in the maybeboard.
A special shout out goes to Geode Golem. With the enough artifacts and the protection that Rebbec gives, it should be pretty easy to get him to connect so you can cast Glacian for FREE!
If you wanted to go the "turn all my artifacts sideways at people" route, cards like Sakashima's Will and Masterful Replication work wonders with creatures like Filigree Attendant or Darksteel Juggernaut and Shambling Suit. On the other hand, Rise and Shine from MH2 just animates and tosses counters on things. Much simpler and can achieve the same result of smashed face! I have an Urza, Lord High Artificer deck that focuses on this exact gameplan.
Vedalken Archmage and Endless Atlas are two great card draw engines. One with the Machine is also great but you need something big on the field to really capitalize on it. I see that you have Esper Sentinel in the maybeboard and I can't for the life of me figure out why I didn't add it into my own deck. I just buylisted it a week or two ago. :(
I think that's all I have for now. I've linked my deck below. Feel free to check it out and see if any other ideas pop out at you from there. I'm excited for Kamigawa Neon Dynasty as it seems to have a pretty good artifact theme going on but I have a feeling that The Brother's War set at the end of the year is gonna be HUGE for Rebbec/Glacian!
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