Pili-Pala

Pili-Pala

Artifact Creature — Scarecrow

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(2), Untap: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pauper Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Unformat Legal
Vintage Legal

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Pili-Pala Discussion

Arcaneful on A Better Belbe, Corrupted Observer

1 week ago

Hey Patrick, just wanted to say I love the content you're putting out, and you've really inspired me to start to look into Higher Power/cEDH decks to build for myself, my first high powered deck last year actually being a budget version of your Teshar list. Your videos are on repeat for me either in the background while I write papers. I would love to join the Patreon and support you, but I barely have enough funds to play magic even right now so that's out of the picture. All I can offer to you is my thanks is the statement that you're probably my favorite MTG YouTuber!

Please don't feel like you have to read any of the following, it's just my ramblings/a few questions but it may be a long read so I won't be offended if you don't read it, as I know you don't typically keep budget cards in mind persay. Also hey, if leaving a comment can maybe help this awesome deck of yours to get more traction/attention on tappedout for whatever reason, even better.

I've been building my own Belbe list over the last few days and I had a few questions about potential cards to include? I don't always play in a cEDH meta really but have some really close to cEDH decks like a more 75% Brago, a Malcolm, Keen-Eyed Navigator + Vial Smasher the Fierce Curiosity control, and Godo Helm fairly often. I'm hoping to transition more towards cEDH in general and with this deck in particular.

As a college student with no real source of income right now I'm a bit low on funds and we don't typically use proxies in my group, so I don't particularly know if this is a good spot to ask about budget alternatives to the Mike Trike combo, but I figured I might as well give it a shot. I've watched the Cold Brew and the deck tech, but if I forget if you mentioned something from them I apologize when asking about a few cards. Do you have any particularly budget combos you would suggest that maybe you tried during testing? I recall you talking about Gravecrawler loops in the Cold Brew, and I'm thinking of maybe some of those combos as with the Bontu's Monument , Pitiless Plunderer and Carrion Feeder (already in my list) would be a solid win I feel.

Currently I'm mainly running a Protean Hulk line of Disciple of the Vault , Carrion Feeder / Viscera Seer , Melira, Sylvok Outcast , and Lesser Masticore for infinite drain. My meta doesn't run much GY hate so I'm feeling decent with this, but losing one piece usually leads to waffling out. I know you mentioned a Phyrexian Delver line so I may look more into that, maybe getting it and and a one drop sac outlet first plus Putrid Goblin / Blood Artist with the leftover mana for the second Hulk trigger? I'm unsure if that's way too clunky, but I'll have to see.

My back up win is currently a Necrotic Ooze line or two, but not Triskelion / Phyrexian Devourer lines as both together are like, over $60 which is money I can't really shell out right now. Right now I'm doing Devoted Druid + Channeler Initiate and Priest of Titania + Pili-Pala lines for infinite mana of any color. Only current outlet I really have is Walking Ballista , which while good, I can't always rely on with all the artifact hate in my groups. I was thinking of adding more creature outlets maybe as they're easier for me to tutor (only black tutor I have is Diabolic Intent since I was able to trade up for one) Perhaps Ezuri, Renegade Leader since I have Belbe and other dorks (10 Elves Total) or Kamahl, Fist of Krosa as overrun effects that I can sink infinite into? Or maybe something like Tergrid, God of Fright  Flip to use the back side for an infinite Torment of Hailfire effect?

There were also one or two cards I wanted to ask you about, just to see if you thought they were decent enough to run in the list.

  • Bolas's Citadel is something I'm trying to run in my current list. It's been fairly diffuclt to get out with 3 black pips, but with Dark Ritual (which may be cut soon I'm unsure) it's been a nice thing to have, especially when I've been testing Aetherflux Reservoir with it? Maybe add a Sensei's Divining Top (something out of my budget in general, but I do have someone willing to trade me one) for a storm win? I feel like that could be a cool win con that makes use of colorless mana, and the pieces in general aren't bad outside the combo? I do think that with the high CMC of the deck, I will take a ton of damage of Citadel, but I think hitting a few pingers/dorks in a row and just gaining some life might be good actually? I'd love some feedback on that.

  • Decree of Pain has been working wonders for me. I know Culling Ritual was a godsend, and its a very amazing card in Belbe, but if my meta is very creature dependant I thought I needed more mass removal than just Ugin, the Spirit Dragon and Culling Ritual . Toxic Deluge is a bit out of my range right now, so I was trying this and even if it is mana intensive, I think it's a very good card depending on your meta since it can be Cycled for 5 to kill all 2 or less tougness things? The cycling saved me once or twice against a Najeela deck with counter magic known to the table to be up. On the other hand while it costs 8, I've mostly payed for it with Belbe mana and drawn upwards of 6 cards off it.

  • Chalice of the Void I was able to trade for this and have been enjoying putting it on 0 for the Underworld Breach lines the Malcolm list uses in particular, or to even shut off some 3 cmc commanders after getting Belbe mana. Would it be better to trade this for another stax piece or two such as Static Orb or tanglewire?

Sorry for the long post. I hope you have a good day!

multimedia on Breya....Help Me!

1 month ago

Hey, well done so far.

Your deck doesn't have a Commander yet. In the editor where you see Breya, Etherium Shaper text add the Commander tag CMDR to the end.

Breya, Etherium Shaper *CMDR*

This will show Breya as the Commander and show a card image of Breya under the Commander category.


What is your budget for upgrades? Since I don't know I will give you some low budget options.

Dramatic Reversal is paired with Isochron Scepter and mana rocks to make infinite mana. Infinite mana can be used with Breya as a win condition since she can sac herself for mode to do 3 damage to a player. When she dies she goes to the Command Zone and because you have infinite mana you keep casting her from there. Repeat the combo by sacing her and one of her Thopters. If not playing Reversal than Scepter doesn't do enough in your deck with only four other instants.

Grand Architect with Breya since she and the Thopters she creates are blue. Architect is ramp for artifacts or artifact activated abilities and it can tap itself even the turn you play it. Architect combos with Pili-Pala for infinite colored mana and Breya can be the win condition with infinite mana by sacing herself for her 3 damage to a player mode.

Goblin Engineer because many of the combo artifacts are 3 CMC or less. Engineer has interaction with Eldrazi Displacer for more tutoring. More repeatable artifact reanimation is helpful and getting an artifact of your choice in your graveyard is good with many cards here: Daretti, Scrap Savant , Goblin Welder , Sharuum the Hegemon , Trash for Treasure , Emry, Lurker of the Loch , etc.

Whirlwind of Thought repeatable draw by casting artifacts as well as instants/sorceries/enchantments/Planeswalkers.


Some changes to consider:

If interested I offer more advice. Good luck with your deck.

Mcat1999 on MDFC Sorcery in Strixhaven

1 month ago

Question: What would someone consider a "cEDH" deck to be? Would it be a deck that has won against a 4-player pod on turn 2 on three separate occasions and has the (slight) chance of winning on turn 1 if you get the correct hand - a hand which can be built two different ways?

Because if so, Kinnan, The Simic Domri is cEDH. When I play this deck, I very rarely lose. The notable times I do lose is when someone goes infinite or I have all three opponents hitting me with everything they've got.

I own about 1/2 of the deck in paper. Proxied the rest as I save and buy the pieces one at a time.

Now I say this because, as a non-cEDH player, it would seem to me that cEDH falls into the same issue as Modern, in which the format appears "solved" from the inside, but looking in from the outside it really isn't. When I play against cEDH decks in person or online, especially with my Kinnan deck, I notice that many of them rely on combos to win the game. These combos tend to be fragile and can have pieces removed.

The issue that I have noticed is that a cEDH deck functions in two major facets:

  • Tutors
  • Wincons

Very few run ample removal. So it isn't a triathlon to the finish line. It's more like a 100-meter dash and whomever kicks off first, wins.

The problem, as an outsider looking in, is that all it takes is one single well-timed removal and the entire setup falls apart.

That being said, on the topic of consistency, I feel almost as though your own argument resolves itself. If the deck is designed for consistency, then having a single MDFC means nothing as those lack consistency. Sure you may find the odd one out that actually does give you some minor consistency, but it's not like you are seeing functional reprints of Dark Ritual or something. None of the MDFCs even come remotely close to such a thing. And again, even if they did, I'm sure there's always better options.

I could see an MDFC tutor being an issue, sure. Where one side is a big creature or even threat removal and the other side is a tutor. That's pretty dangerous and I hope WOTC doesn't print something like that. But, until they do (and they will), I don't see the issue.

Again, I am by no means a cEDH player. I built one deck that has stood its ground extremely well and has won something stupid like 90% of the matches I've been in. Yes. I know it sounds insane but seriously, it's a power-house.

  • You're not casting the creatures, so you can't be countered unless your opponent runs the very specific "counter target ability", which almost nobody does
  • Your Commander costs . Commander tax is a non-issue.
  • You don't need to rely on draw, since you rely on cheating off the top of the library
  • We abuse the + mana by having an outrageous amount of non-land sources of mana in the deck
  • By packing the deck full of clones, we can clone the biggest threats we have, such as Nyxbloom Ancient , Blightsteel Colossus and Terastodon
  • The deck has an extreme density of removal on creatures, meaning we don't just get a body on the field, we also take out any set pieces we want
  • On that topic and previous points, we get to literally take the best option of the top five. So we get to specifically hone in on what is the best possible play, at all times
  • The deck has numerous combos built in, such as abusing Deadeye Navigator with something such as Meteor Golem or Thorn Mammoth
  • One of my favorite combos, and the hardest one to pull off, is Woodfall Primus , Gigantoplasm and The Great Henge . You need Woodfall Primus out first, then you clone it with Gigantoplasm . After both of these are out, you bring into play The Great Henge . Now, what you do is pay into on Gigantoplasm . Giga dies as it becomes a 0/0. Since it was a copy of Woodfall Primus , it has Persist so it comes back into play with a -1/-1 counter on it. However, The Great Henge puts a +1/+1 counter on it and they cancel out. You have Gigantoplasm enter as a copy of Woodfall Primus again. You can now repeat this process an infinite number of times, destroying every single land, artifact and enchantment in play that you do not control. Now, no opponent can cast another spell for the rest of the game
  • We have several ways to generate infinite mana, including ways to produce faux infinite mana with several copies of Nyxbloom Ancient
  • You can use Basalt Monolith to generate infinite mana. Dump this into Cogwork Assembler to generate an infinite number of Simic Signet s or most other artifacts. Now, you have infinite colored mana. You can also use Grand Architect and Pili-Pala . There is also Basalt Monolith and Chromatic Orrery . I am also considering adding Prismat as another infinite colored mana combo as we can feed into it for either or . All of these options means we can effectively play our entire library that turn
  • We can react in response for everything. Hold up mana and pass. If you know how to do it, you can put an activation on the stack and when the ETB of the creature goes on the stack, put another activation on the stack ahead of it

The deck is extremely brutal. I had to stop playing it. So...

But again, I am not a cEDH player. All I am saying is, from the outside looking in, cEDH decks run very differently from traditional casual EDH decks. I can see MDFCs making a decent splash in casual EDH decks, but not in cEDH. So, I don't really see the issue here.

I can see, perhaps one or two, being used in cEDH. But to suggest it breaks the format? No, not at all.

Lanzo493 on Any Complicated Commanders?

1 month ago

There's the old KCI combo with Krark-Clan Ironworks , Scrap Trawler , Myr Retriever and any 0 mana rock or mana positive rock. There's also Ashnod's Altar , Nim Deathmantle , and Eldrazi Displacer combos involving your commander Breya that go infinite. You've got Time Sieve and Thopter Assembly as well as Sword of the Meek and Thopter Foundry . Skullclamp is great in general. You've got Pili-Pala and Grand Architect combos to use. Painter's Servant and Grindstone . Rings of Brighthearth , Zirda, the Dawnwaker , or Power Artifact get infinite mana with Grim Monolith or Basalt Monolith . For infinite sacrifice outlets, you can use Grinding Station , Blasting Station , or Disciple of the Vault . Since you're running black and red, you have access to combos with Worldgorger Dragon and Animate Dead , Dance of the Dead , or Necromancy (goes great with a sacrifice outlet out, too). Altar of the Brood may work well in a list you make. You can even do Dualcaster Mage with Ghostly Flicker and get infinite thopters with your commander and infinite mana to sacrifice them all to kill your opponents. Those are just some combos I came up with on the top of my head.

BrassLord on Ormos needs so much support budget is futile help

1 month ago

I haven't seen this commander done before, seems pretty neat! In terms of single cards, I'd definitely recommend Frantic Search , Mystic Sanctuary , Drownyard Temple , Chemister's Insight , Deep Analysis . Good general looting/blue cards to go with your commander's self discard theme! Self mill could also work, in which case Fraying Sanity on yourself could have a high upside! If you're looking for a budget wincon with your deck, Tunnel Vision seems like a fun route to go! If you pair it with something like Vessel of Endless Rest or Proteus Staff (though the staff is like $4 :/) you can either mill an opponent out, or mill yourself out. At worst, Vessel of Endless Rest is a three mana mana rock that puts a wincon back in the deck. To that end, in your current build, your commander is a (sort of semi conditional) infinite mana sink that will end with you picking up your deck and winning the game with Lab man and the like. Not sure how you feel about infinite combos, but if you're looking for a budget infinite mana combo in the deck outside of Dramatic Reversal + Isochron Scepter , Peregrine Drake / Cloud of Faeries + Deadeye Navigator is tried and true. Or if you go the artifact subtheme, Pili-Pala + Grand Architect might also work!

As for budget additions, I've had a lot of success with Sculpting Steel and Mirrormade . Both of these cards are relatively cheap and scale well depending on what your opponents play. You can double down on the best artifact/enchantment on board.

Since the deck seems a little hungry for mana, you could also double down on the key effects with ramp like Thran Dynamo , Gilded Lotus and Voltaic Key . Could help you get WAY ahead with your draw X spells.

To that end Emry, Lurker of the Loch seems to work in tandem with what you want your commander to do! Deck thinning and casting rocks from the bin!

Hope that gives some ideas! The commander seems rather open ended aside from wanting to draw ALL the cards, there are definitely a lot of different routes to go! For sure a cool commander!

ninetoe on Yarok, the Triggered

1 month ago

And definitely would add Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy and Thrasios, Triton Hero . Both are extremely powerful in this color wedge, and enable you to make more mana off your dorks and then do interesting things with that mana. Seeing as your deck is mostly creature based, Kinnan can help you find exactly the creatures you want and "cheat" them onto the field. Thrasios helps you filter through your deck faster, get lands onto the field. And--if you have infinite mana--from say, Peregrine Drake + Deadeye Navigator or from Cryptolith Rite + Horseshoe Crab + Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy then you can use Thrasios to draw out your entire deck and do fun things with that.

If you decide to go this route, I would also look at Pili-Pala + Heavy Arbalest , bc that plus Kinnan is inifinite damage, for the low cost of 2 generic mana. (just spend 2 mana from any source to untap Pili-Pala to get 2 mana, tap it for dmg from Heavy Arbalest, use the 2 mana to untap it again to net that 2 mana right back to you... rinse repeat to infinity). Maybe that's for a different deck though.

TheVectornaut on Mono-Blue Artifact Mill

1 month ago

If you don't mind infinite combos, Pili-Pala is a classic companion of Grand Architect that nets as much mana as you need. Toss back in the Filigree Sages or something to that effect and you can activate all of your artifacts repeatedly until the job is done. Codex Shredder , Unwinding Clock , and Vantress Gargoyle are some other cards that might fit this strategy. There's also the idea to focus on playing many small artifacts for Altar of the Brood and Grinding Station .

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