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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pauper Legal
Pauper Duel Commander Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Premodern Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Custom Legal
Quest Magic Legal

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Return target creature to its owner's hand. Untap up to two lands.

DarthSeatb3lt on Barrin, Master Wizard

2 months ago

The synergy with Induced Amnesia is fantastic!

I like the idea of the deck - seems very unique and fun. A couple suggestions you could consider: it looks like you're dabbling in the wizard synergy but you could go a bit deeper for even more synergy with cards like Cyclone Summoner, Docent of Perfection  Flip, Minn, Wily Illusionist,Patron Wizard, Trophy Mage,Tribute Mage, Trinket Mage, Jace's Archivist and Azami, Lady of Scrolls

I think the above additions would help you keep the theme of your deck while offering more synergies all around. If you take this approach, you could also look to include Stonybrook Banneret as a budget medallion.

fetch your token fodder generators with: Trophy Mage,Tribute Mage, Trinket Mage create more fodder with: Docent of Perfection  Flip, Minn, Wily Illusionist

and bounce more with: Cyclone Summoner Stern Proctor & Equilibrium

The rest are just decent control/draw.

Additionally, in keeping with the bounce theme you may want to consider Into the Roil, Blink of an Eye, Disperse, and maybe even Capsize or Snap the former three will let you bounce your own targets for more ETBs/protection and in a pinch they can bounce those pesky enchantments blue has so much trouble dealing with.

For counterspells, the lower the mana cost, the better the counter. there are some great budget options if you find you've always got a handful of cards for free counters (Misdirection Disrupting Shoal) but one of the classics that isn't too pricey isArcane Denial but I'm quickly growing to loveAn Offer You Can't Refuse and Swan Song

For removal, the bounce theme is always great but for those pesky indestructible creatures I auto-include Resculpt in every blue deck I make.

Overall your deck looks like a ton of fun to play already, just adding in my thoughts.

SufferFromEDHD on Baral Control

3 months ago

Tidespout Tyrant so good.

Rewind/Unwind/Snap tempo control & ramp.

Grubbernaut on Non-basic quantity

8 months ago

I think playing around nonbasic hate is actually easier than playing around having a lot of basics in a 4/5 color deck, in general. Most of the cards to deal with the issue are generically useful, as well:

Swan Song, Dovin's Veto, Force of Will, Force of Negation, Pact of Negation, Delay, Mana Drain, Fierce Guardianship, etc. And for the more common hate in the form of enchantments, Snap, Chain of Vapor, whatever other bounce spells.

IMO, as compared to other formats, there's far fewer true "hosers" in EDH if you've built a deck well, and Kenrith gives you access to whatever wincons you want - plus all the good dorks and rocks. Cursed Totem is always rough, though.

RambIe on About Urza's Saga in cEDH

11 months ago

im running Galazeth Prismari . i run a lot of cast untap creatures Blistercoil Weird , Blisterspit Gremlin , Thermo-Alchemist etc. and i put in Urza's Saga thinking it would be good to fetch Paradise Mantle . so far i have found a lot of weird unexpected uses for it. example one game turn 3 i tapped it floating a colorless, sacked it for a Seat of the Synod and casted Snap . with the same method of floating a mana it can also fetch and activate Sensei's Divining Top at your upkeep. its not broken but i've never been disappointed by its resolve i mean even in worse case it can always fetch a sol ring or indestructible artifact land

multimedia on Thunderbutt Spells

1 year ago

Hey, good upgrades of the precon: Ral, Reversal, Reiterate, Veyran, Dockside, Storm-Kiln, Amulet, Thrill and Manamorphose :)

Because you're playing Veyran, consider Krark, the Thumbless ? He almost made my Kalamax budget version that isn't playing Veyran. He's amazing with Veyran, giving you more flips, more chances to copy the spell you cast which triggers Veyran more.

Since you have Dockside then consider taking more advantage of it's power? Dockside combos with Snap + Eternal Witness for infinite mana and infinite cast of Dockside/Snap/Witness. Snap and Witness are good cards by themselves. Snap also combos with Kalamax + Dualcaster Mage + Storm-Kiln Artist for infinite mana, infinite copy and infinite casts of Dualcaster.

Reiterate combos with Turnabout for infinite mana, infinite copy and infinite casts of Reiterate with buyback. Kalamax helps to reduce the cost of this combo by first copying Turnabout.

The precon has zero counterspells. You've added Reinterpret , but consider a few more lower CMC counterspells such as Counterspell , Stubborn Denial and Red Elemental Blast ? Tapped Kalamax copies an instant counterspell which is extra protection for Kalamax or for your spell to resolve. Making some room for Counterspells is important if you're trying to assemble combos that could win you the game.


The mana curve is a little high at 3.4. Some cards in the precon that in my opinion could be upgraded with lower CMC cards:

  • Wort, the Raidmother
  • Sunbird's Invocation
  • Strength of the Tajuru
  • Slice in Twain
  • Prophetic Bolt
  • Commander's Sphere

Other cards that could be upgraded:

  • Halimar Depths
  • Mossfire Valley
  • Solemn Simulacrum
  • Crackling Drake
  • Uvilda, Dean of Perfection
  • Skullwinder
  • Supplant Form
  • Desertion
  • Brain in a Jar

I offer more advice in another comment. Good luck with your deck.

multimedia on

1 year ago

Hey, well done for your first Commander deck.

Consider adding more one drop spells that can give Veyran evasion? That way she can more easily be a win condition with Commander damage. Having more one drops to cast on your turn to start Fork combos is helpful.


In the description Combos explanations you left out one of the better ones for repeatable infinite magecraft: Veyran + Narset's Reversal + Twinning Staff .

Start the combo on your turn by casting any instant or sorcery and then copy it with Reversal. Copies of Reversal are constantly copying each other on the stack which makes infinite copies. It's a repeatable combo because Reversal returns itself to your hand to cast again on your next turn. Shadow Rift or Slip Through Space are good one drops to first cast to copy with Reversal because it makes infinite power Veyran unblockable. Reversal can return itself as well as Rift or Space to your hand to cast again on your next turn and repeat.

Veyran + Reversal + Staff combo doesn't have to be on your turn. Can do it by copying an opponent's instant or sorcery with Reversal. This doesn't help Veyran to attack, but it can make infinite copies for Ral as a win condition or infinite triggers for other magecraft cards. Veyran + Narset's Reversal + Twinning Staff + Time Warp is repeatable extra turns attacking with infinite power Veyran. Reversal can return itself and Warp back to your hand.

Dualcaster Mage is another card to combo with Birgi, God of Storytelling  Flip with Snap for infinite magecraft triggers and infinite storm count because you repeatedly cast Dualcaster. With Veyran this combo is infinite red mana because Veyran triggers Birgi an additional time each time Dualcaster is cast.

Good luck with your deck.

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