Artifact Creature — Thopter
Flying (This creature can't be blocked except by creatures with flying or reach)
|Have (2)||, gildan_bladeborn|
|Want (2)||TheMagicFanatic , Happymasksalesman|
Printings View all
|Mystery Booster (MYS1)||Common|
|Arena Cards (ARENA)||Common|
|Aether Revolt (AER)||Uncommon|
|Masterpiece Series: Kaladesh Inventions (MPS)||Mythic Rare|
|Magic 2015 (M15)||Common|
|2011 Core Set (M11)||Uncommon|
|2010 Core Set (M10)||Uncommon|
|Tenth Edition (10E)||Uncommon|
|Ninth Edition (9ED)||Uncommon|
|Ninth Edition Foreign Black Border (9EDFBB)||Uncommon|
|Classic Sixth Edition (6ED)||Uncommon|
|Fifth Edition (5ED)||Uncommon|
|Fourth Edition (4ED)||Uncommon|
|4th Edition Foreign Black Border (4EDFBB)||Uncommon|
|Revised Edition (3ED)||Uncommon|
|Revised Foreign Black Border (3EDFBB)||Uncommon|
Combos Browse all
- Mirran Spy + Nettle Drone + Ornithopter
- Alela, Artful Provocateur + Ornithopter + Scrap Trawler
- Blood Artist + Ornithopter + Scrap Trawler
- Aetherflux Reservoir + Ornithopter + Scrap Trawler
- Ornithopter + Scrap Trawler + Viscera Seer
- Ornithopter + Quest for the Holy Relic
- Ensoul Artifact + Ornithopter
- Ornithopter + Springleaf Drum
- Lightning Greaves + Ornithopter
- Argentum Armor + Ornithopter + Sword of Body and Mind
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
- will thorn of amethyst increase the cost of an artifact/creature card?
- Bouncing Yisan
- If I enchant an artifact land (i.e. darksteel citadel) with ensoul artifact could I copy the creature it creates with fated infatuation?
- Destroying a creature after it's been targeted by equipment?
- Ensoul Artifact with thopta
1 week ago
You need to decide what you want the deck to do before you can start cutting cards. Without knowing your build goal, you will not be able to know where to cut.
What do you wan this deck to do? Examples/ideas:
Is this deck mainly aggro? then keep the big monsters and the ramp. Cut the little creatures that are not mana dorks or cost reduction.
Is this deck mid-range good stuff? then cut creatures until you get 14-18, And add interaction cards to stop or negate your opponent's plays.
Is this a combo deck of some kind? For example; Is it built around Icy Manipulator + Voltaic Key for it's control? then get rid of the other stuff that is not part of that game plan.
Or is it going to cheat stuff out with Amulet and bridge? Then get rid of the icys and keys and focus on cheating big fat bombs out early.
Is it a toolbox deck? then cut your bombs and strong cards to 1 copy each and add more tutors to the deck.
These are just a tiny sample of archetypes, I am just showing how you can decide what kind of deck this is. Once you do, a lot of the cuts may become obvious depending on what you want for the deck.
But there are some cuts you should do no matter what goal you have:
-3 Fabricate (You already have 4 tinkers and 2 tezzerets), -1 Black Vise (Without support for it only 1 copy of this is just an annoyance when it shows up in your hand or is in play), -1 Paradox Engine (This is a freaking amazing card but it does not do a lot for this particular deck) , -1 Winter Orb (Like vise, without support it is not that useful with 1 copy), -1 Colossus of Akros (You have better big bombs already), -4 Etched Champion (this is a vanilla 2/2 most of the time and is probably the worst creature in your list), -4 Ornithopter (These are okay with the other cards in your deck but you will ramp into big stuff so fast they are just not too useful), -4 Welding Jar (at the very least cut it down to 2 since it synergizes with Academy Ruins. But Academy Ruins, Tinker, and Tezzeret the Seeker do the same thing kind of as this already. Id cut all of them to the maybeboard and see how it plays).
In a vacuum, none of these cards are bad by themselves. But none of these cards help you reach your goals for the deck. And only having 1 of something has a very low chance of seeing play. So if it does see play, it needs to do big things for you.
For your lands, they are another resource for the deck. So I would suggest filling in your land base with support cards. Stuff like;
+3 Buried Ruin (if you dont want to get more academy ruins), +2 Rogue's Passage (they don't hurt and can let you win off the back of one of your big creatures), +2 Arch of Orazca (really, slots of any land that gives card advantage), +5 more Islands or so, whatever gets you to 20-22 lands. If you dont want any of the other non-island cards, just add islands.
Your deck has very little interaction and I would suggest adding some to the deck. There are hundreds of options but I would look to add stuff that is similar to any of the following cards:
Spine of Ish Sah, Unstable Obelisk, or Meteor Golem. These cards synergize with academy ruins and buried ruin and can be Tinker targets when you need them. Just 1 or 2 copies of cards like these in the deck you can tutor for. Once you bring one of them online, you can keep bringing them back repeatedly to destroy your opponent's game state.
Then you need instant speed answers you can use to respond to what your opponent's do. Interaction is important and you will lose games just because you didnt have a Disenchant in your hand. Add copies of stuff like Scour from Existence, Titan's Presence, Not of This World or even repeatable stuff like Capsize or similar.
I am not saying you have to do any of the things I suggested. But you do need to decide what you want to do with the deck, cut cards, and add land and add interaction to the deck or it may just stay a hot mess like it is now.
2 weeks ago
I would wholehearteddly reccomend cutting Ornithopter as it dosen't trigger any of your creatures and is a rather meh card in general.
3 weeks ago
These might interest you: Glimpse of Nature, Beast Whisperer, Path of Discovery, Soul of the Harvest, Primordial Sage, Stone-Seeder Hierophant, Cloud of Faeries, Peregrine Drake, Memnite, Ornithopter, Shield Sphere, Phyrexian Walker, Tomorrow, Azami's Familiar, Tangleroot, Noble Hierarch, Village Bell-Ringer
3 weeks ago
Just for example, I think a 2nd Ornithopter would even be a better place than the one Spidersilk Net. Equal casting cost, still provides flying defense, only it doesn't require a creature in play and it doesn't cost any mana to activate.
3 weeks ago
Solemn Simulacrum can definitely go in my opinion. By the time you have 4 mana in play to cast this in your deck build, there's likely little need for an Island (basic land only). That's only 1 slot, but at least it's something (another map would make a much better substitute; cheaper to cast & also less restricting).
Beyond that I'd probably take a look at all of your equipment and see which you cast the least and eliminate that. There's no real weak points that I can see, but it's something you can likely gauge after playing thru the deck a few times. It can be tricky to eliminate "good" cards (which all of them appear to be), but having a much more consistent baseline for your Urza lands will help you more in the long run. If I had to guess I'd say probably Energy Chamber and Spidersilk Net could go. Energy Chamber doesn't seem like it ramps up that fast (and I can't see any uses in your deck for anything except a single +1/+1 counter each turn since I see nothing in your construction that uses Charge Counters. Spidersilk Net looks hard to get rid of being a free artifact, but it's still got an activation cost to be worth anything genuine and even then it's not that stellar. Plus, you need a creature in play to make it worth anything apart from fodder for Tinker (or similar mechanics).
Maybe having 0-mana artifacts suits you, but even if that's the case there's stronger options than that such as Phyrexian Walker, Shield Sphere, and of course the Ornithopter that I see you've already got a copy of. I'd focus on that rather than equipment (especially equipment that doesn't provide any offense at all; unless it's game-endingly good defense...which the Net is not)
4 weeks ago
Appreciate all this feedback! If I could keep asking, I'm struggling with the last few creature spots, namely Baleful Strix, Grim Guardian, and Ornithopter. Strix is good value for a deathtoucher, guardian has the steady drain, and ornithopter is literally two fliers for free when Alela is out, but is that enough? Or do I swap them out for more enchantments/equipment? Or for better creatures that fit what I want to do?
Just for clarity, rhystic and cyc rift are in the "if I get lucky, they're going in, but I can't justify $50+ for two cards during a pandemic" camp.