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Krosan Restorer
Creature — Human Druid
: Untap target land.
Threshold — : Untap up to three target lands. Activate this ability only if seven or more cards are in your graveyard.
wallisface on Why is Untapping Lands a …
1 month ago
legendofa I have an issue with you contesting my statement of "a large portion of those cards are extremely old" and then deciding yourself what the goalposts should be for my own statement. I never said that only old-bordered cards are old... the current "new" border has still been in use for a ridiculous quantity of time, and the colour pie has shifted numerous times since its creation. For me, anything that was printed 10+ years ago, fits into the "extremely old" category... so if you're going to pull me-up on what's old-or-new, that is the yardstick i'm measuring.
Now, ordering cards by how old they actually are (instead of arbitrary card-frames) yields the following (using only the cards you've already listed):
1993 (31 years ago): Ley Druid
1995 (29 years ago): Juniper Order Druid
1996 (28 years ago): Nature's Chosen, Emerald Charm
1997 (27 years ago): Elder Druid, Earthcraft, Llanowar Druid
1998 (26 years ago): Awakening, Argothian Elder
1999 (25 years ago): Early Harvest
2002 (22 years ago): Krosan Restorer
2004 (20 years ago): Rude Awakening, Nature's Will
2005 (19 years ago): Stone-Seeder Hierophant, Seedborn Muse, Patron of the Orochi
2006 (18 years ago): Magus of the Candelabra
2007 (17 years ago): Woodland Guidance
2009 (15 years ago): Garruk Wildspeaker
2010 (14 years ago): Bear Umbra
2012 (12 years ago): Arbor Elf, Urban Burgeoning
2013 (11 years ago): Voyaging Satyr
2014 (10 years ago): Nissa, Worldwaker
2017 (7 years ago): Initiate's Companion, Hope Tender, Nissa, Genesis Mage, Blossom Dryad
2018 (6 years ago): Ley Weaver, Cacophodon
2019 (5 years ago): Wilderness Reclamation, Rime Tender
2021 (3 years ago): Sculptor of Winter, Saryth, the Viper's Fang, Jorn, God of Winter Flip
2022 (2 years ago): Likeness of the Seeker Flip, Civic Gardener
2023 (last year): Rustvine Cultivator, Portent Tracker
2024 (this year): Innocuous Researcher
Using the above data, the below rant is in defense of my claim "From what i’m seeing, the general trend is that this effect used to be quite prominent in green but something that’s slowly being phased out/down for green over time", which may have been the other thing you were contesting??
Now, at face value this paints a picture that indicates an-eb-and-flow of constant printings of green-land-untap effects, perhaps even slightly favoring those printings in the more recent years. HOWEVER - this does not take into account the actual percentage of cards printed in any given year.
For example, in 1996 2 cards exist in our category, BUT only 468 new cards were printed that year. 2022 also has 2 cards in our category printed, but also had 2004 new cards printed into it, meaning those 2 cards represented a significantly lower percentage of what green represented that year.
With Wotc printing an increasingly large quantity of cards every year, this effect has been getting an increasingly lower-percentage-share of cards given to it. The one anomaly I see is 2017, where 4 cards were printed in a year that made 861 new cards, making it about on-par with our beforementioned 1996 example.
legendofa on Why is Untapping Lands a …
1 month ago
wallisface I'm still going to contest that. Scryfall search comes up with 45 mono-green cards with the words "untap" and "land". Ignoring stuff like Blizzard and Choke, there are nine cards in that group with ye olde bordere that untap lands, seven with the Modern border, and fourteen with the 2015 border, skipping those whose primary purpose is to turn lands into creatures like Wakeroot Elemental. Two of them are legal in Standard, and thirteen--about a third of the total, and more than ye olde bordere--are legal in Pioneer. I'm not seeing the dropoff for land untapping in green.
Ye Olde Bordere, "untap" + "land": Ley Druid, Elder Druid, Juniper Order Druid, Nature's Chosen, Early Harvest, Earthcraft, Awakening, Argothian Elder, Krosan Restorer. total 9
Modern Border, "untap" + "land": Rude Awakening, Nature's Will, Stone-Seeder Hierophant, Magus of the Candelabra, Garruk Wildspeaker, Bear Umbra, Urban Burgeoning, Voyaging Satyr. total 8
2015 Border, "untap" + "land": Nissa, Worldwaker, Initiate's Companion, Hope Tender, Nissa, Genesis Mage, Blossom Dryad, Ley Weaver, Wilderness Reclamation, Sculptor of Winter, Saryth, the Viper's Fang, Likeness of the Seeker Flip, Civic Gardener, Rustvine Cultivator, Portent Tracker, Innocuous Researcher. total 14
Ye Olde Bordere, "untap" + "permanent": Emerald Charm, Seedborn Muse. total 2
Modern Border, "untap" + "permanent": none.
2015 Border, "untap" + "permanent": Cacophodon, Rime Tender, Jorn, God of Winter Flip. total 3
Ye Olde Bordere, "untap" + "Forest": Llanowar Druid. total 1
Modern Border, "untap" + "Forest": Patron of the Orochi, Woodland Guidance, Arbor Elf. total 3
2015 Border, "untap" + "Forest": none.
So there's 39 green cards that can untap lands in some capacity, with 34 of those being more or less land-specific. Again, these counts ignore cards that untap lands by turning lands into creatures, focusing only on those whose main function is the untap. It also ignores Un-cards.
Analysis of blue to follow.
Phillthethrill on (En)Rage(eD) (3.5)
7 months ago
04/03/2024 (3.0) skipped a bunch of versions because this was a bigger update.
Haven't spent much time on this one, while building a couple other decks. Now returning to with fresh eyes, refining the focus, checking to see if any of these cards work better in the newer lists (lots going to Rakdos), and I actually purchased a few inexpensive additions.
The biggest upgrades are: A bunch of awesome lands in hand card advantage that can be: reload lightning bolt lands or landfall drops depending on which commander I am playing.
Bag of Holding, Creeping Renaissance, Praetor's Counsel, Barrel Down Sokenzan, Nahiri's Lithoforming
Jolrael, Empress of Beasts to turn my opponents precious lands into lightning bolt targets for a little bit of control.
Upgraded Voyaging Satyr to Krosan Restorer though i am less convinced of thier overall value here at this time.
I put my Grafted Exoskeleton back in. I thought making Borborygmos a tripple barreled poison counter machine gun mighy be a bit much. But then I played a couple friends whose decks were far meaner than I expected. So here we are.
Removed: Traveler's Amulet (HOU) Feed the Clan (KTK) Vessel of Volatility (SOI) Voyaging Satyr (THS) Tunneling Geopede (BFZ) Pilgrim's Eye (BFZ) Burnished Hart (THS) Everflowing Chalice (WWK) Flamekin Herald (CMR)
legendofa on Untap lands?
1 year ago
Would "untap target land"-type effects work? Krosan Restorer, Voyaging Satyr, and Kiora's Follower are possible options.
CNG_Stream on Sven I don't think we're in Arendelle Anymore
2 years ago
If you want to try and turn this infinite you could try using Krosan Restorer. To help you get the threshold active you can use some Brokers Hideout and some type of loot draw like Thirst for Discovery to help you find combo parts. If you take the threshold path you may want to consider using Consider over Opt at the very least.
Another draw/ramp card to consider Growth Spiral
Spellbook doesn't do anything based on the card draw options you are using.
Tamiyo's Journal is very slow and I don't see any cards to interact with your opponent outside of Counterspell. Doubt Journal this will do much for you.
Also you somehow have 6 copies of Counterspell in your deck.
If you want a board wipe to help you survive and don't want to kill all your creatures, then you may want to consider Time Wipe.
Prosperous Innkeeper may be something you want to run if you do not want to run sweepers as it gives you etb to gain life to sustain and generates treasure that ramps/color fixes in a pinch.
Hope the suggestions help and best of luck with the casual fun deck idea.
multimedia on trelassara, the stomper
2 years ago
Hey, impressive version on a budget, you've put a lot of thought into your deck.
An excellent compact infinite combo for life is Staff of Domination + Accomplished Alchemist by gaining five or more life on a turn. What makes this combo compact is it's two cards and Staff can draw which is helpful when you make infinite mana to draw your wincon in this case Aetherflux Reservoir. Staff can be a mana sink for any other infinite mana combos you play. Heronblade Elite is an overlooked mana dork who can get out of hand quick when playing counters as well as other Humans. With 5 or more power it also infinite combos with Staff of Domination.
To improve gameplay use cards that are part of combos, but are good without combos? Cards that do other things such as ramp or gain life and can be used in more than one combo. Try to limit the combos to two cards to make it easier to assemble.
- Staff of Domination + Accomplished Alchemist = infinite mana, life, draw.
- Umbral Mantle + Accomplished Alchemist = infinite mana.
- Ivy Lane Denizen + Scurry Oak = infinite tokens.
- Spike Feeder + Cleric Class lvl 2. = infinite life.
Staff of Domination, Accomplished Alchemist, Ivy Lane Denizen, Spike Feeder, Cleric Class, Heronblade Elite, Scurry Oak are combo cards that are also good outside of combos. In contrast Sorcerer's Wand, Lurking Roper, Famished Paladin, Krosan Restorer, Presence of Gond are subpar cards that are only here because of combos or are only part of one combo. I'm not suggesting to cut all these cards, just to think about what other uses do they have here besides a combo and are they really needed because of that?
For example, Illusionist's Bracers is an expensive price card here that's only in one combo with one card, Krosan Restorer. Consider cutting Bracers and Restorer? Doing this change would also let you cut some of the lesser Bounce lands, Karoo and Jungle Basin because only playing them for Restorer combo. For a budget manabase Canopy Vista and Fortified Village could replace those lands. By adding Canopy Vista then you have a Selesnya dual land that Three Visits can get.
Many of the combos here require an equipment or an aura, Open the Armory can tutor for either one.
Some changes to consider:
- Staff of Domination --> Illusionist's Bracers
- Ivy Lane Denizen --> Krosan Restorer
- Heronblade Elite --> Golden Guardian
- Spike Feeder --> Sorcerer's Wand
- Open the Armory --> Ram Through
- Canopy Vista --> Karoo
- Fortified Village --> Jungle Basin
Good luck with your deck.
SufferFromEDHD on Ctrl-G | Fear the Forest
2 years ago
I see a theme of untapping lands... where's the Krosan Restorer?
Running Dryad Arbor and Green Sun's Zenith... where's the Natural Order?
Skyshroud Poacher might be useful.
king-saproling on Stomp Stomp Stomp, The Idiot Convention
2 years ago
Thoughts on these? Ohran Frostfang, Toski, Bearer of Secrets, Arbor Elf, Voyaging Satyr, Farhaven Elf, Ilysian Caryatid, Fyndhorn Elder, Nantuko Elder, Krosan Restorer, Ogre Battledriver, Fiendish Duo, Angrath's Marauders, Avatar of Slaughter
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