Archive Trap

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Custom Legal
Quest Magic Legal

Archive Trap

Instant — Trap

If an opponent searched his or her library this turn, you may pay {{0}} rather than pay Archive Trap's mana cost.

Target opponent puts the top thirteen cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.

wallisface on Modern Mill-Castic

3 weeks ago

Some thoughts:

  • the bare minimum you want a mill-card to mill is 8 cards. Any lower and it starts becoming not-worth the resource (card) loss. I’d suggest ditching all of Mind Funeral, Mind Sculpt, and Tome Scour. There are much better options in Maddening Cacophony, Fractured Sanity, and either Archive Trap, Mesmeric Orb or Tasha's Hideous Laughter.

  • Mill decks typically only want to run Ruin Crab and Hedron Crab as their creatures. Other creatures often slow them down more than help them. I would also suggest investing in some fetchlands to double the crab-triggers.

  • your land count feels really low and i personally think 22 might be a better number.

  • Fraying Sanity is a bit of a trap card, in that the first copy is usually only as-good as drawing a single mill spell, and drawing a second copy is usually disastrous - because they do nothing on their own. I could see justifying running a single copy of this card, but never more than that (and really, i’d suggest ditching it).

  • if you end up using Archive Trap, then you’ll want to run Mission Briefing instead of Snapcaster. I’d also suggest running Field of Ruin to both force a search, and help your crabs.

  • I think you need some more interaction, namely Fatal Push and/or Drown in the Loch to help keep the board safe. A few copies of Crypt Incursion would do wonders also

wallisface on Gretchen's Crab Trap

4 weeks ago

Some thoughts:

  • its worth noting that Ghost Quarter lets the opponent choose whether they search or not, so doesn’t reliably work with Archive Trap. Field of Ruin works much better as its a forced search.

  • Your current list looks like an amalgamation of traditional-mill fused with prime-titan. My worries are that you’ve created something that won’t be as effective at either particular strategy, and maybe it would be better to stick to one of those option? Typical Titan decks look like this, and typical mill decks look like this.

  • My main concern with your current Titan strategy is that it looks really slow. You don’t really have much outside of Growth Spiral for early game ramp, which means Titan itself is likely going to come down quite late.

  • My main concern with your current Mill strategy is that its also really slow, as you have very few mill options. Mill decks typically also pack a load of interaction to make sure they can survive long enough to get the job done, which you’re also lacking.

  • outside of those two archetypes, there’s also some cards i think you should just ditch regardless of your gameplan. Muldrotha, the Gravetide feels really weak for its mana cost. Gretchen Titchwillow takes too long to do anything. Endurance seems to play against most of what you’re trying to do 1. (either to your own graveyard, or your opponents deck). Bojuka Bog is clumsy and not really helpful

Bulldawg1310 on

1 month ago

Archive Trap

wallisface on Mission Briefing

2 months ago

As others have mentioned, Briefing does have some limited upsides over Snappy (mainly in casting cards for their alternate costs, like Archive Trap - something snappy can’t do. Always pick Briefing over Snappy in mill!).

Snappy does more than just cast a spell - it’s also presenting a blocker in a push, or ideally a clock to slowly smack your opponent to death with. Briefing on the other hand can only ever represent a spell - there’s no other added value.

GoldenAgeBatman on Mission Briefing

2 months ago

I agree with Balaam__

I use Mission Briefing in my mill deck to cast Archive Trap for 0 CMC after my opponent has searched their deck due to the way the card is worded.

TheoryCrafter on Cards that exile Libraries in …

2 months ago

Any creature with Ingest including, but not limited to, Dominator Drone, Fathom Feeder, and Salvage Drone exile the top cards of graveyards each time they deal combat damage.

Other cards that exile after doing damage include, but aren't limited to, Lord of the Void, Nashi, Moon Sage's Scion and Skullsnatcher. Rogue Class also permits this on creatures.

Each Ashiok Planeswalker except for Ashiok, Sculptor of Fears exiles cards. All of them have some sort of graveyard or exile interaction

Planar Void allows for the cards to be directly exiled from the graveyard. If you add this one, be sure you include Syr Konrad, the Grim.

Another shuffling shenanigans card you may wish to consider is Archive Trap.

If your opponent is somehow able to get cards into the graveyard before they can be exiled, other options include Bojuka Bog and Surgical Extraction.

I hope this helps. Happy Hunting!

wallisface on Balaam__

3 months ago

Balaam__ in response to the Mission Briefing versus Snapcaster Mage conundrum, perhaps I should have been a bit clearer - here's the intention of the interaction from both.

  • With Mission Briefing, I'm assuming the conditions for Archive Trap have already been met - that is, the opponent has search their library. From there, you may use Mission Briefing to cast Archive Trap from your graveyard, and because the wording is "Cast", you may use alternate casting costs, such as Archive Traps 0-mana cost (if the condition to use this cost has been met).

  • With Snapcaster Mage, even if the conditions for Archive Trap are met, you still won't be able to cast it from graveyard for 0, because that's not how Snapcaster operates. Snappy gives the spell flashback, with the cost equal to the spells cmc (5). Because of that, it locks you out be being able to use the alternate cost.

Balaam__ on Balaam__

3 months ago

@wallisface: had a quick question about one of your suggestions on my mill deck. You mentioned Mission Briefing is better than Snapcaster Mage because it lets me pay for Archive Trap. I can’t figure out how though. I’m under the impression that Mission Briefing only lets me search my own library, whereas to meet the qualifications to cast the trap for free it has to be the opponent that searches their own library, no? Or is there something I’m overlooking?

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