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Disciple of the Vault
Creature — Human Cleric
Whenever an artifact is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, you may have target opponent lose 1 life.
1 month ago
Dead_Blue_ I definitely think Apostle's Blessing is a strong choice, especially as a sideboard option against Chalice of the Void to swap out Disciple of the Vault, and it has the added benefit of being especially strong in the current multicolor-piled meta. I don't know that I quite understand Rite of Consumption, though. I get the idea behind suggesting it, but in most cases I'd much rather have a main-field body like Disciple of the Vault or Zulaport Cutthroat that acts as a latent combo piece until the last piece resolves than a sorcery-speed payoff.
Thank you for the suggestions!
1 month ago
IF it is in your budget, Phyrexian Altar could make an infinite loop with Imotekh the Stormlord and Tortured Existence, creating an infinite amount of 2/2s. You then just need to have a Blood Artist, Zulaport Cutthroat or Disciple of the Vault on the board to finish everybody off !
2 months ago
Update: -Marionette Master / +Cyberdrive Awakener -Machine God's Effigy / +Imotekh the Stormlord -Blasphemous Act / +Their Name is Death -Disciple of the Vault / +Steel Overseer -Reverse Engineer / +Losheel, Clockwork Scholar -Bedevil / +Void Rend -Temple of Malice / +Cryptothrall -Temple of Enlightenment / +Optimus Prime, Hero Flip -Temple of Deceit / +Thirst for Knowledge -Temple of Epiphany / +Shivan Reef
Notes: I chose Cryptothrall over Spellskite because they serve the same function, to protect your stuff, but Cryptothrall requires less effort. I put in Optimus because I wanted to experiment with him. Lastly, I'm keeping Austere Command in the deck since I like to have a board wipe that hits enchantments and artifacts.
2 months ago
Hey, interesting version, but you're building your deck with combo mindset without having the last combo piece to win... Building this way could hinder gameplay since you don't want to win with combo? If you're avoiding infinite combos then I presume attacking is main wincon? Consider more effects to make Breya a better attacker and adding board wipe(s) that don't destroy artifact creatures? These wipes pair extremely well with Biotransference.
- Cyberdrive Awakener --> Marionette Master
- Imotekh the Stormlord --> Machine God's Effigy
- Organic Extinction --> Blasphemous Act
- Steel Overseer --> Disciple of the Vault
- Their Name is Death --> Austere Command
- Losheel, Clockwork Scholar --> Reverse Engineer
- Cranial Plating --> Mycosynth Wellspring
If reanimating and recurring artifacts is a strategy then consider Imotekh the Stormlord? It also can make Breya a good attacker, 6/6 with menace. Marionette Master and Disciple of the Vault are subpar if they aren't the wincon of a combo. They can only hit one opponent at a time which is not as good outside of combo compared to Reckless Fireweaver who hits each opponent and Mayhem Devil who can hit any target.
Consider cutting a few lands? The Tri lands, Bridges and Temples all in the same manabase is a lot of lands that always ETB tapped. Of these the Temples are the lesser lands since Bridges are artifacts and Tri lands more color fixing.
- Spellskite --> Temple of Malice
- Counterspell --> Temple of Enlightenment
- Thirst for Knowledge --> Temple of Deceit
- Shivan Reef --> Temple of Epiphany
- Void Rend --> Bedevil
Good luck with your deck.
3 months ago
Mindblade Render because the tokens are warriors too.
3 months ago
Cranial Plating potential win condition.
4 months ago
There is also Necrotic Ooze, Phyrexian Devourer and Triskelion (or Walking Ballista) which will just kill everyone as long as you have some MV in your deck left. I think you can assemble this combo pretty easily with Buried Alive or some self-mill. I use Gravecrawler/Feeder/Plunderer myself, and I dig them out with Protean Hulk, which can then generate infinite Experience for Meren, making it possible for her to reanimate it for you to find a payoff for death or etb.
Hulk can also dig out Disciple of the Vault, Melira, Sylvok Outcast, Lesser Masticore and Viscera Seer or Feeder, which will just win on the spot usually. I will say, you do have to target with Disciple, so you can get blanked if someone has protection of some kind, so I don't use this combo myself, but it seems solid (if low on redundancy). It might be worth mentioning, but your Mazirek is very useful with any Persist creatures, since Mazirek can put a +1 counter on one if you have 2 you can sacrifice separately, this will go infinite with any free sac outlet, like Viscera Seer.
If you use Hulk, there is Activated Sleeper, or Phyrexian Delver which can extend your Hulk's lifespan to dig out more stuff. I'm pretty sure there are a few more out there, but I think Sleeper is the best.
I'm guessing you're not really looking for cEDH type stuff, but if you want really spicy stuff, I could direct you to very strong Meren lists you can get ideas from. I have a Meren deck that's roughly High Power atm, able to be extremely harsh to the board but also able to combo off fairly quickly/consistently if I want to. Nel Toth Community College and Round Table is the list, which has the cards sorted into custom piles to make it easier to understand (debatable if that was a success, you can switch it at the top of the decklist). Key points I'd suggest you consider is running tons of non-artifact, non-spell ramp, mostly creature based, enough to shave lands down at least somewhat, and an emphasis on small creatures that can either sacrifice themselves or something else. I would also suggest finding ways to substitute everything else with creatures, Meren really wants to have access to creatures and sac outlets, so stuff like Dockside Chef and Skullport Merchant can be better than other, non-creature options (other than busted ones like Ashnod's Altar, Phyrexian Altar, and Altar of Dementia that are just amazing). I even run Lurking Predators to just dump creatures onto the board, usually as sacrifice fodder, because I have over 50 creatures in the deck, it's very possible to get more than 2 creatures in a cycle.
Hope some of this helps!
4 months ago
multimedia, Disciple of the Vault is not good outside of the combo, but if I draw it I could play it for one mana and continue with my combo. If I draw delver I have to wait until hulk comes down, sac it and then play delver. Meaning that drawing delver would skyrocket the mana I need from 6 to 11 and I wouldn't want to play delver cuz then I cant use it for the combo, making it just as useless as disciple. I do like Riftsweeper, Tamiyo's Safekeeping, and Eternal Witness, but I am having trouble with what to slot them in for. Help with that would be nice.