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Disciple of the Vault
Creature — Human Cleric
Whenever an artifact is put into a graveyard from play, you may have target opponent lose 1 life.
Disciple of the Vault Discussion
1 month ago
1 month ago
There's a couple of 1 CMC creatures you can sacrifice for assorted effect, though most of them tend to be pretty limited to specific situations (to find these, you can run a gatherer search with "sacrifice" "creature" "CMC = 1").
I went through the entire list of 1 CMC creatures, and there really are not many great options. Here's a list of I came up with of creatures that (a) don't require a sacrifice to use, and (b) might be considered hatebears (though some are so niche that they bearly made the cut).
1 month ago
Hey! I always thought Shrauum was a cool commander, and I love that you're running Zur's Weirding (it's one of my favorite cards). Here're some suggestions -- feel free to ignore any/all of them:
Xerox cards are your friend. Ponder and Preordain belong in pretty much any blue deck, as they can dig you to what you need and past what you don't. Being one mana means they make marginal opening sevens into acceptable hands. Similarly, Brainstorm is fully capable of being very good, though it requires more of a build-around. In order for it to be good, you need some cards to assure that you don't get Brainstorm -locked; that is, stuck with two cards you don't want on top of your library after resolving Brainstorm . The easiest way to deal with this is to simply crack a fetchland after resolution, as the shuffle-effect unlocks you. While the Onslaught and Zendikar fetches are the best for this, Evolving Wilds , Terramorphic Expanse , Prismatic Vista or even just Flood Plain or Bad River are good, too.
Currently, Narset, Parter of Veils is one of the most busted cards in EDH. Preventing decks from drawing extra cards essentially means she is a 'must answer' before anything else can happen, and if you pair her with your Windfall you can win the card-advantage war in one fell swoop; this interaction is also favorable with your Dark Deal .
Speaking of card-advantage, you are in the best colors for it. Fact or Fiction is a very good card, especially since you put the pile you don't choose into your graveyard. Since your general reanimates artifacts, this means the card is straight card-advantage. Treasure Cruise and Painful Truths are two draw-threes I've been very impressed with, mainly due to their frequently low casting cost. Dig Through Time is one that is good too, though I don't advise running it and Treasure Cruise at the same time, as delve can get in its own way. I think Treasure Cruise is better if you want to keep your combos secondary, and Dig Through Time , which provides more card selection and less card advantage, is good if you want your combos to take the front seat.
As you mention in your description, your landbase can use some work. This, I think, is actually not as big a deal as one might think though, since you have a lot of very good two-mana mana-rocks that produce your colors. Still, if you're looking to improve the deck, this is an area with potential. If you end up running fetch lands, be they Onslaught, Zendikar or Slow (see (1)'s Flood Plain ), you should at least run the on-color shock lands. Godless Shrine , Hallowed Fountain and Watery Grave can all enter untapped, and being able to grab them with a fetch land means their odds of coming out in a game go up drastically. You may want to run them even sans fetches. Mana Confluence and City of Brass are good, as they are tri-lands that ETB untapped. The check lands (that is, Drowned Catacomb , Glacial Fortress and Isolated Chapel ) are only a few dollars now and offer consistent improvement. The pain lands ( Underground River , Adarkar Wastes and Caves of Koilos ) should also be considered.
One card that I think you should test with is Bitter Ordeal . This IS a combo card, but I think it is likely better than most of the other ways to profit off infinite death/ETB triggers associated with your general + copying artifact combo. There are several reasons I say this. One, it is a sorcery. This means that, if you choose to run Mystical Tutor (which I suggest you do), it can find the payoff half of your combo; right now, this would only be true if you run Enlightened Tutor (I also advise this). Running an artifact/enchantment payoff to grab with Enlightened Tutor and another sorcery-based payoff to grab with Mystical Tutor means that you can tutor for a win-condition card off either of the tutors. Second, there are fewer answers to a sorcery than a permanent. Winning with Disciple of the Vault or Altar of the Brood requires that they stay on the field throughout the resolution of the combo; a well timed Abrupt Decay , Isolate or Swords to Plowshares / Nature's Claim means lights out. While Bitter Ordeal can be countered, so can the permanents; running Bitter Ordeal just means you narrow the number of possible answers your opponents can have. Third and finally, Bitter Ordeal is really only stopped by a Leyline of Sanctity effect. It is worth noting that there are ways that opponents can prevent being milled out by Altar of the Brood (like running Kozilek, Butcher of Truth and even benefit from it ( Tasigur, the Golden Fang or Whisper, Blood Liturgist come to mind), and ways that they can avoid dying to infinite drain ( Lich , Platinum Emperion and Platinum Angel come to mind). Again, Bitter Ordeal just limits the number of answers opponents can have.
Alright. That's all I got. Good luck!
3 months ago
Alrighty, so I had a look at the list a here are a few things I picked up (also, I'm working under the assumption of infinite budget for now):
You're running very heavy on removal, probably more than you need to be. I would personally lose Vindicate , Beast Within and Anguished Unmaking . On the flipside, the new Force of Vigor looks really good and can help get rid of Rest in Peace effects. UYou also have cards like Silence , Orim's Chant , Veil of Summer and Imp's Mischief which can be used to protect your combo. There's also Grand Abolisher , however I like Silence a bit better.
As for card advantage, some cards you could consider are: Mentor of the Meek to trigger on your dorks/saprolings, Summoner's Pact which can get Hulk/Saffi, Runic Armasaur which is meta dependent but can be very good, Tymna the Weaver who again is meta dependent but can turn your dorks/saprolings into cards and Painful Truths which is better than Phyrexian Arena since it gives you the cards immediately.
I'm not sure I like the Lesser Masticore combo. I feel like it's a very specific line that doesn't do much outside of it. and outside of combo, Disciple of the Vault and Melira, Sylvok Outcast are effectively dead cards.
Those would be my thoughts for now at least. I hope this gives you a few ideas.
Dango on Varolz Hulk
5 months ago
sickrobot that makes a lot of sense. I figured the sacrifice of slot efficiency had that tradeoff of being more mana efficient. That can also make your hulk piles a lot more flexible if say, you have your Disciple of the Vault in play or in hand, but you don't have access to Varolz for a sac outlet for whatever reason (which would be an odd circumstance admittedly because you're likely sacrificing hulk to Varolz, but I digress), you could just grab a Viscera Seer instead and just hard cast your Disciple to assemble your combo for the win. It's extra spicy that this gets around Null Rod and Stony Silence effects, which at least should be commonplace to see in high level metas.
Overall, I think your list is brilliant. Have you been playing this deck recently? If so how has it been performing in the current metagame? I assume Shuffle Hulk outperforms this deck substantially with access to Flash , but Varolz seems like he's still a rather potent threat who may slip by under the radar if left unchecked. What are his good matchups and bad matchups usually if you don't mind sharing?
6 months ago
I'd definitely recommend having Fling in the deck, as with Disciple of the Vault + Reckless Fireweaver you will bring the opponent within range quickly. Crash Through will give you a replacement card as well as gives your Atog a way to crunch in for the finishing blow, Rile being another option.
7 months ago
I tried a similar version of this Deck a few times now.
I really miss some kind of ramp, and either protection for Glissa to keep the recursion/card advantage going, or card draw. Mind Stone Hedron Archive and maybe Dreamstone Hedron can fill both ramp and draw slot each.
I also recommend Unstable Obelisk if you kill creatures with it, you can recure it, and also fills a ramp slot. And it can solve other problems than creatures, too.
Glaring Spotlight opens your opponents creatures for removal. Also can finish/protect yours.
Acorn Catapult seems bad, but once you get an opponent a Squirrel, you will have a target every turn for "free" recursion (just hit the squirrels if there are no other targets to kill)
Cranial Plating Just try it. You can eqiup this at instant speed. Giving sometime +10 power or more :)
Hope of Ghirapur done lot's of work in every deck where I was able to get it back!
Verdurous Gearhulk Artifact, +1/+1 Counters. 5 Mana 8/8 Trample if nothing better to do.
Marionette Master I nearly always choose to put counters on him (fits your theme) making him a 4/6. So every artifact that "dies" sucks 4 life out of an opponent. Can semi-protect from artifact boardwipes, because it sometimes can kill an opponent.
Disciple of the Vault Little brother.
Of course Sol Ring etc. would work with that many artifacts, too. Maybe you can explain why you play few ramp spells and Draw stuff
And I really don't know why people play Terramorphic Expanse Evolving Wilds in a two colored deck. Getting 2 cards out of 90+ others...not worth in my opinion. They are fixing but technically Mono Colored Taplands. Try Guildgates/Shocks/Normal Tapduals instead
Some games are hard with too much topdecking cause of missing draw/Glissa died too often But nontheless Great Deck and really a lot of fun to play :)
7 months ago
Have a look at Defiant Salvager and Disciple of the Vault which with a little more setup gives you a kill without needing to attack. That would allow you to setup, then on the spot kill someone as long as you can demonstrate the loop.
Disciple of the Vault occurrence in decks from the last year
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