Sai, Master Thopterist
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Sai, Master Thopterist

Legendary Creature — Human Artificer

Whenever you cast an artifact spell, create a 1/1 colourless Thopter artifact creature token with flying.

, Sacrifice two artifacts: Draw a card.

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Nishodus66 on Myr: Automata

7 months ago

Sorry, I’m not exactly sure what you’re asking about the color ratio, but when putting together my mana base I figured most things were colorless so didn’t matter too much what color, but the main thing I wanted it for was the Commander’s activated ability, so wanted to make sure all 5 colors were evenly represented. Then I added in Chromatic Lantern, Chromatic Orrery, The World Tree, and Cryptolith Rite as my main mana fixers.

As for the cards you suggested, truthfully I didn’t know about Pia's Revolution until you mentioned it here. While I do think that Sai, Master Thopterist is the more reliable card, only needing itself to work and not relying on opponents avoiding the damage, I don’t like having the extra Thopters not getting much else unless Mirror Entity or Brudiclad, Telchor Engineer are in play. Since I already have a Sarcomite Myr in this deck, I might just work Pia into it. Thanks for letting me know about it!

(Also, that would give me more cause to also add Kuldotha Forgemaster to the deck as well)

mtgplayer903 on Myr: Automata

7 months ago

Also, Pia's Revolution/Sarcomite Myr vs. Sai, Master Thopterist… Which would be more effective?

multimedia on Urza’s legion

7 months ago

Hey, good start on a budget with what you have so far. Command Tower is a budget staple land for multicolored Commander decks and Arcane Signet is a budget staple mana rock.

Ramos, Dragon Engine can only be played in a five color deck using it as Commander or another five color Commander. It's activated ability has all five mana symbols and those symbols count toward it's color identity. Urza's color identity is only three colors Esper (black, white, blue). Because Urza doesn't have red and green that's why Ramos can't be played with Urza as Commander.

If you want aggro with Urza lets look at the beginning of the mana curve first, cards spots of 0-3 CMC only then we can look at the higher end of the mana curve. The first changes to consider is to remove all the nonartifact creatures and then later determine if they are worth a spot in your deck because they have abilities that help artifacts or Urza. I think you'll find that you don't need any of these creatures because artifact creatures can take their places. If you want to be aggro with Urza then you want to utilize Urza's artifact creature affinity to cast Urza quicker. To do this consistently Urza wants 0-2 CMC artifact creatures and some 3 CMC artifact creatures more than the rest.

Some of these creatures may be added back in later, most likely not, but for now lets build the creature base with only artifact creatures. For making upgrades lets look at best cards here with Urza and build around them? Arcbound Ravager and Portal to Phyrexia are the two best cards here with Urza because they're artifacts and they're abilities are more powerful compared to most other cards here. Ravager brings the aggro, but if aggro doesn't do it and you need more reach to win the game then Portal can do that. Lets start with Ravager and what makes it better with Urza? Modular and you have some here, more one drops can help toward Urza's artifact creature affinity and Ravager.

Steel Overseer adds to the +1/+1 counter strategy, it's powerful but only for artifact creatures and if trying to be aggro it's a good reason to play very few nonartifact creatures. Silas Renn, Seeker Adept goes well with Arcbound Ravager since with Ravager you want to sac artifacts and Silas lets you cast an artifact from your graveyard. It's deathtouch combined with Urza's menace makes it a creature who opponent is not going to block and lose two or more creatures blocking it. Baleful Strix, Triarch Praetorian, Malcator's Watcher are two drop artifact creatures who fly and who draw when enter the battlefield (ETB) or dies.

Some artifacts here are worse than others.

Think about limiting the amount of nonartifact spells to just the better ones you have here?

Equipment that increases the equipped creature's power equal to the amount of artifacts you control really ups the aggro since then any little artifact creature can become huge which combined with menace can make it a great attacker. I see Silver Myr and it's good here since counts twice for Urza, artifact creature affinity and ramp. Consider adding more artifact creature mana dorks who can make colored mana?

The budget Signets can help for ramp as well as color fixing which is really needed because the manabase here is pretty much all basic lands. Arcane Signet is a staple budget mana rock for ramp in Commander. Chromatic Lantern is fine for color fixing, but you're going to want more than that.

Some nonartifact creatures at the beginning of the mana curve can really help aggro and Urza.

Losheel, Clockwork Scholar is powerful with artifact creatures when attacking is what you want to be doing especially Constructs. Your artifact creatures don't take damage in combat meaning that opponents will have a difficult time choosing to block since their blockers might die, but your creatures will be fine. Losheel is also repeatable draw, once on each players turn when an artifact creature ETB you draw this includes when a Construct is created by Urza if you didn't have an artifact creature ETB before your end step.

Sai, Master Thopterist can be a repeatable source of artifact creatures, Thopters, to be attackers or sac fodder. Emry, Lurker of the Loch is like Silas Renn, Seeker Adept more ways to cast artifacts from your graveyard is good with Arcbound Ravager and other sac outlets.

That's it for this comment, but if you're still interested I'll give advice about the high end of the mana curve here to take more advantage of aggro into mid game and Portal to Phyrexia late game as well as some budget land options for the manabase. Would you like more advice?

Good luck with your deck.

multimedia on Urza, CEO of Machines

8 months ago

Hey, good upgrades to the precon, what you've done so far.

How do you want to win? Determining the main strategy you want to play can help to keep good cards for that strategy and cut unnecessary cards. If you're wanting to keep precon level budget then doing combat damage with Constructs and Commander damage with Urza are directions to consider. Research Thief and Bident of Thassa are excellent budget cards if you want to be attacking with Constructs. Making Urza an artifact makes him a reliable source of Commander damage, but this means including effects to make Urza an artifact.

You have Urza, Lord High Artificer, he's a combo wincon, but to use him as a wincon you'll want to add other cards and more ways to assemble the combo. Drawing cards from Constructs doing combat damage to opponents is a good alternative to playing expensive price tutors to get combo pieces in your hand.

You have Tezzeret, Master of the Bridge, you don't really need Mycosynth Golem especially not for it's price tag. You don't need this Tezzeret either, but if you have it might as well play it. The first cuts to consider are lands since 41 lands is a lot when the strategy here are artifacts. Consider cutting 6 lands? Lands that always ETB tapped and are worse then others that also do this. If you feel you need more mana then add mana sources (rocks, dorks) not lands.

The Bounce lands and Scry lands are worse always ETB tapped lands then Tri lands, Bridges, etc.

Some advice for more cuts is choose the top 20 creatures here, top 10 artifacts and top 10 other nonland cards. By choosing the best cards then you can cut a huge chunk away of lesser cards.

Creatures:

Artifacts:

Others:

For upgrading it's easier to get an established list that's not 99 cards then have a list that's way over 99 cards. Really any 0-3 drop artifact creature who can make some value to take advantage of Urza artifact creature affinity or any 0-2 drop mana rock for more ramp can fill unfilled deck spots.

Good luck with your deck.

JHall on

8 months ago

Sai, Master Thopterist is good for card draw and getting blockers. Thought Monitor and Thopter Shop for card draw. Spellskite for protection. The The Reality Chip and Lithoform Engine are also good choices for under $10.

KBK7101 on Rule 0 - Urza and …

9 months ago

In no particular order, some cards that are probable/potential cards for the deck:

wallisface on U Artifact Affinity

10 months ago

The only suggestion I have with the current list is to drop Sai, Master Thopterist. Getting the mana to cast him to begin-with isn’t straightforward, but then you still have to subsequently cast a bunch of stuff afterwards to profit - the card is very ”win-more” or ”do-nothing”.

Evool on Jhoira Artifacts

10 months ago

Revision; added more infinite combo potential with Dramatic Reversal just waiting on Isochron Scepter to arrive. Added a few more token generators like Sai, Master Thopterist, Etherium Spinner, and Thopter Engineer. Added Jhoira's arguably better version Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain to swap out commanders if someone so pleased, along with Brudiclad, Telchor Engineer although not as well optimized for Brudi. Do have a few more cards on like way like Memnarch and a few others from my maybe board, will add when they arrive.

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