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Sai, Master Thopterist
Legendary Creature — Human Artificer
Whenever you cast an artifact spell, create a 1/1 colourless Thopter artifact creature token with flying.
, Sacrifice two artifacts: Draw a card.
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2 weeks ago
Hey, interesting concept, but you're sacrificing a lot of card quality and a cohesive deck strategy by playing so many different partner pairs. Instead of so many partners how about simplifying by choosing a few that also go with Breya? That way you can play these partners in a Breya version of the deck. Or switch to partner pairs, but keep the majority of the deck the same with the same strategy.
Akiri + Silas makes most sense as an alternative four color partner pair because they have synergy with artifacts and can be played with Breya as Commander. Silas + Tymna could also work for Esper with a Thopter or other artifact fliers strategy which you could also play with four color Breya as Commander. Tymna is a powerful card and it helps that Breya creates fliers making it easier to do combat damage to at least two different opponents. All the other partners are out of place and could be cut to improve the deck for Breya, Akiri, Silas and Tymna?
Akiri, Silas, Tymna and Breya can all benefit from more cards that create Thopters especially Thopter Foundry + Sword of the Meek which is not an infinite combo without another card, but can repeatedly create an amount of Thopters equal to the amount of mana you have available. Master Transmuter to create Thopters by keep bouncing Breya and putting her onto the battlefield for .
Breya's Apprentice with artifacts can be repeatable for the cast from exile strategy. Sai, Master Thopterist can repeatedly create Thopters with artifact theme. Sharding Sphinx can double your Thopter army when they do combat damage to opponents. Hangarback Walker can create a lot of Thopters especially when you have a lot of ramp from mana rocks or treasures. Hangarback wants to die which has synergy with Breya and Silas.
I like the idea of being able to switch to different Commanders with partners, it's creative, but for this idea of work the partners you choose need to have some synergy with each other that way you can mix and match them, but still have a cohesive deck strategy no matter which Commanders you choose. You're not taking much advantage of Breya as Commander or Silas + Akiri or Silas + Tymna and artifacts playing 44 creatures. The partners are a neat addition to Commander, but you still want to build your deck around the two you choose that way not playing so many cards that don't go with your Commanders.
Prosper, Tome-Bound and Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer are good cards for casting spells from exile because they're also enablers, you don't need to play any specific strategy to play them. They can be good with Breya because they create treasures which are artifacts. Laelia, the Blade Reforged is another good card for this strategy because she's also an enabler. Building around the exile strategy with 20+ cards is too many with Breya because the problem is if you don't draw Prosper the exile strategy doesn't do much with Breya, Akiri, Silas, Tymna as Commander.
This is an example of a streamlined/simplified creature base using some current creatures you're playing and adding my card suggestions:
- Hangarback Walker
- Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer
- Akiri, Line-Slinger
- Ornithopter of Paradise
- Breya's Apprentice
- Feldon of the Third Path
- Laelia, the Blade Reforged
- Palladium Myr
- Pia Nalaar
- Sai, Master Thopterist
- Silas Renn, Seeker Adept
- Tymna the Weaver
- Displacer Kitten
- Master Transmuter
- Myriad Construct
- Prosper, Tome-Bound
- Sharding Sphinx
Good luck with your deck.
6 months ago
Ancient Den not being a spell is mostly so that it counts towards your land drops per turn, and doesn't trigger a Sai, Master Thopterist for example. For the purpose of Oswald Fiddlebender it is still an artifact with mana value and can be sacrificed to get an artifact that costs .
7 months ago
9 months ago
Changes, 02Nov2021 continued:
Improved mana rocks!: (Mana Vault, Mana Crypt, Chromatic Orrery, Mox Opal, Voltaic Key). Little explanation needed here. The key can do more than be a mana rock, but considering how many of my rocks can now make 2+ mana per tapping, that's gonna be a lot of its purpose.
Artifact love/recursion: (Tezzeret, Master of the Bridge, Tezzeret, Artifice Master, Sai, Master Thopterist, Emry, Lurker of the Loch, Dakkon, Shadow Slayer). This deck loves artifacts. It kinda has to love Tezzeret too as a result.
Your stuff is mine now: (Thief of Sanity, Nightveil Specter, Opposition Agent, Xanathar, Guild Kingpin, Empress Galina). I wanna take your stuff. All of your stuff. And not "until this card leaves the battlefield", either. Once I take it, it's mine. Bonus points for denying you access to them in the first place before making them mine.
Other: Fabricate is better than Diabolic Tutor by just about every measure. The only drawback being that it can only get artifacts is practically a moot point in this deck. Lithoform Engine just seems really good in here. I can't wait til I can copy an Expropriate with it... Finally, Paradox Haze cuz I love the way it can interact with not only The Ladies themselves but with Xanathar as well.
1 year ago
PoisonLexy I had a look on MtgGoldfish to see what the other tron decks are running for lands. Green-Tron is running 17 lands, but they make up for it with over 1/3rd of their deck dedicated to digging for lands ( Ancient Stirrings , Sylvan Scrying , Chromatic Sphere , Chromatic Star , Expedition Map ). Eldrazi-Tron, on the other hand, runs 24 lands - and that archtype much more closely resembles your gameplan (they just run Expedition Map ).
The problem with the “Etched people” is that most of them do almost nothing unless you can generate 5 colors of mana, which your deck is going to really struggle to do. You can’t rely on Steel Overseer because the opponent will often kill it well before it gets a chance to tap. Also the only creature that needs the counters is Etched Oracle , so feels like its synergy is low.
It just really feels like the Etched creatures require a massive amount of setup for very little gain…
I think a strong potential avenue for you to go down would be a mono-blue tron-artifact build. That would let you still run Etched Champion , and actually make it threatening using Cranial Plating or Ghostfire Blade . You’d be able to grab whatever you needed with Whir of Invention which’d mean you could run a single copies of Blightsteel Colossus and Platinum Emperion . You’d keep the planeswalkers, but be better suited for providing a consistent creature-threat, with blue providing value cards like Sai, Master Thopterist , and Master of Etherium , while the tron lands can create large Hangarback Walker and Walking Ballista . You wouldn’t need to be messing around for 5 colors, and the deck can additionally function alright if you missed assembling tron
1 year ago
That would be
Mycosynth Wellspring , Seize the Spoils , Phyrexian Metamorph , Trail of Evidence , Pirate's Pillage , Saheeli, Sublime Artificer , Curse of Opulence , Blasphemous Act , Ghost Quarter / Field of Ruin , Mirrodin Besieged , Saheeli, the Gifted , Mystic Retrieval , Relic of Progenitus / Tormod's Crypt , Star of Extinction , Cyclonic Rift , Comet Storm , Chaos Warp , Loyal Apprentice , Thopter Spy Network , Sai, Master Thopterist , Hypersonic Dragon , Padeem, Consul of Innovation , Ravenform , Memnarch , Liquimetal Coating , Blatant Thievery , and Inspiring Statuary .
I did that with the following code:
[[mycosynth wellspring]], [[seize the spoils]], [[phyrexian Metamorph]], [[trail of evidence]], [[pirate's pillage]], [[saheeli, Sublime Artificer]], [[Curse of opulence]], [[Blasphemous act]], [[ghost quarter]]/[[field of ruin]], [[Mirrodin Besieged]], [[Saheeli the Gifted]], [[mystic retrieval]], [[relic of progenitus]]/[[tormod's crypt]], [[star of extinction]], [[cyclonic rift]], [[comet storm]], [[chaos warp]], [[Loyal apprentice]], [[thopter spy network]], [[Sai, Master Thopterist]], [[Hypersonic Dragon]], [[Padeem, Consul of Innovation]], [[Ravenform]], [[Memnarch]], [[liquimetal coating]], [[Blatant Thievery]], and [[Inspiring statuary]]
1 year ago
I actually researched for A LOT of possible cards, I just can't realize wich path I should follow: control or creature focused. Since my intention isn't having a graveyard populated with artifacts (maybe with spells I used to control my opponent) I think Mirrodin Besieged doesn't fit, and Sai, Master Thopterist (as Academy Ruins ) don't match my intended budget.
To be fair: I gave it more thought and decided to focus more on control, so Ornithopter and Signal Pest are kind of redundant to add. Although, RIDDLE SMITH and Vedalken Archmage seem like viable drawing options besides Reverse Engineer . But there's a problem: Scourglass . That would make Riddle Smith and Vedalken Archmage a waste. Besides the fact that they're not artifacts so they don't benefit from my bonuses (both the +1/+1 and the casting reduction cost).
1 year ago
Mirrodin Besieged / Sai, Master Thopterist seems to be a nice way to get lots of artifact 1/1's... Ornithopter / Signal Pest are pretty classic cheap/spam creatures for casting spells and building up affinity... Riddlesmith / Vedalken Archmage seem to be nice draw payoffs.... Academy Ruins is also really worth considering with Ichor Wellspring and similar.