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|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
: Gain .
: Target permanent becomes an artifact in addition to its other types until end of turn.
1 week ago
Dimir Signet, Mind Stone, Prismatic Lens, Arcane Signet, Charcoal Diamond, Coldsteel Heart, Corrupted Grafstone, Ebony Fly, Fellwar Stone, Fractured Powerstone, Guardian Idol, Liquimetal Torque, Obsidian Obelisk, Sky Diamond, Star Compass, Talisman of Dominance, Thought Vessel - Those are the viable 2 cmc mana rocks (Everflowing Chalice could also be played for 2 mana, but also scales more into the later stages due to Multikicker) Moonsnare Prototype and Springleaf Drum are 1 cmc but require a creature/artifact which you could tap to produce 1 mana. Sol Talisman and Mox Tantalite are also relative cheap in price.
For Land ramp, there arent that many options in Dimir, but here are the ones I would consider - Lantern of Revealing: 3 cmc Rock, that can ramp later Wayfarer's Bauble: The classic Dreamscape Artist: 2 CMC creature, that turns each card in your hand into Harrow Druidic Satchel: Not guarantees a land but not completely without value Navigation Orb: Bauble but slower Myriad Landscape: Land that fetches 2 Lands
1 week ago
NV_1980 I will look for space for those cards, thank you so much!
Liquimetal Torque is a 2CMC mana rock most of the time, with the upside of being able to turn things into artifacts in a pinch for removal. For the most part, it's ramp in a non-green color but it has a great amount of utility.
Thank you for your input/suggestions!
1 week ago
I think Linden, the Steadfast Queen could yield you a ton more life than some of your other lifegain options; especially considering you intend to win through combat. Mentor of the Meek could be another interesting draw resource for you.
I presume Liquimetal Torque is in here to combo with something? Please remove it as you have no artifact tutoring in this deck, so chances of you pulling off the combo you're hoping for are extremely slim.
1 week ago
Hey, on a low budget well done with upgrades so far to the precon. Research, Paradise, Padeem, Glimmervoid, Ethersworn, Extinction, Wurmcoil, the mana Myrs, Fellwar, Kappa, Raffines these are all fine upgrades.
Some cards from the precon to consider adding back in.
- Bident of Thassa, Liquimetal Torque, Skullclamp
- Armix, Filigree Thrasher, Sharuum the Hegemon, Cranial Plating
- Swiftfoot Boots, Unbreakable Formation
- Sunken Hollow, Prairie Stream
Bident of Thassa is very good, it's another artifact repeatable mass draw effect with Constructs. Liquimetal Torque is a mana rock for ramp or it can make Urza or Padeem an artifact and doing so makes these cards much better. If Urza is an artifact he gets all bonus for being one, gains his own menace making it easier to do Commander damage to opponent with him. 4/5 Urza without menace can still do Commander damage, but he's easier to block by opponent then if he has menace. When Padeem is an artifact it gains hexproof which increases protection a lot.
Skullclamp can be nice repeatable draw for the mana cost and by adding the mana Myrs then you added fodder that can die to draw cards when not useful anymore to make mana. You have sources of 1/1 Thopters and these pair well with Skullclamp. Armix, Filigree Thrasher is a 3 drop artifact creature to help Urza affinity and with menace it can be deceptively good repeatable creature removal.
The mana curve of the precon is very high and you haven't reduced it much. Even when not counting Extinction, Monitor, Ethersworn, Kappa and Urza Commander the mana curve here is still too high. Some cards to consider cutting to reduce the mana curve.
- Filigree Attendant, Access Denied, Urza's Command
- Etherium Spinner, Noxious Gearhulk, Scavenged Brawler
- Steel Seraph, Angel of the Ruins, Shimmer Dragon
- Jhoira's Familiar
Shimmer Dragon of these suggestions is a good card, but it's a high mana cost creature that's not an artifact and you can get better repeatable draw from less mana cost sources such as Bident of Thassa. Angel of the Ruins is another good card of these suggestions, but Meteor Golem is also a 7 drop who removes any nonland permanent. I think Meteor is better and you don't need both Angel and Meteor. You don't need Noxious Gearhulk since Necron Deathmark is a better creature removal effect for less mana. Flash is better than menace + life gain.
My favorite budget creature with blue artifact strategies is Master Transmuter. Some of best card art and has one of the most powerful repeatable effects with artifacts for it's price. Bounce any artifact you control and because Transmuter doesn't target then put that same artifact right back onto the battlefield.
This bounce interaction can give you a lot of value with artifacts that have an ETB ability for only 1 mana to bounce. Great with Monitor and Ethersworn. With Ethersworn after bouncing choose to put another artifact from your hand onto the battlefield or nothing since then you can cast Ethersworn again next turn to cascade again. Bounce Baleful or Infiltrator to put Wurmcoil onto the battlefield and then cast Baleful or Infiltrator next turn for more draw, etc.
Transmuter has many other uses too such as can save an artifact from opponent target removal or board wipe, bounce the artifact in response and then if not a board wipe put the artifact right back onto the battlefield safe. Can even bounce itself to protect itself.
Good luck with your deck.
2 weeks ago
Hey, +1 for the deck name! I really like the concept of using Vehicles to crew each other to help to pay for Urza's artifact creature affinity. One creature who can crew a single Vehicle can create a chain that essentially bypasses having to pay for Urza's Commander tax.
You have 10 playable Vehicles here, that's not many if you want a Vehicle strategy. Consider more Vehicles and interactions with Vehicles?
Imposter Mech and Weatherlight are more Vehicles with good effects. Weatherlight can repeatedly look at the top five cards of your library and put any one artifact or legendary card into your hand. The better creatures here who have Vehicle interactions are legendary and Artifact lands are historic. Imposter can become any creature an opponent controls, but it's still an artifact/Vehicle. That's really good with Master Transmuter, who can change what creature Imposer becomes.
Another reason to add more Vehicles is Greasefang, Okiba Boss, Esper, Vehicles and Greasefang go together nicely. Tezzeret, Betrayer of Flesh is an underrated Planeswalker with Vehicles and Greasefang, in fact all of his abilities are good here especially -6 emblem with crew. A Vehicle crew chain can draw a ton of cards if you have his emblem.
Crew is an activated ability thus if it's the first artifact activated ability you use on a player's turn it's 2 less to crew. His +1 is Thirst for Knowledge, draw and discard before combat for Greasefang. -2 effect doesn't end until that Vehicle leaves the battlefield which can really turn any noncreature artifact you control into a 4/4 Vehicle.
Research Thief and Bident of Thassa are consistent repeatable draw effects because of Constructs as well as with Vehicles who will most likely have just as easy time then a Construct at doing combat damage to a player. Losheel, Clockwork Scholar is nice with Constructs for combat damage + repeatable draw.
- Ornithopter of Paradise, Fellwar Stone
- Liquimetal Torque
- Sculpting Steel
- Aerial Surveyor
- Cranial Plating
Only seven ramp sources is low amount, consider more ramp? Ornithopter of Paradise without help is not a crewer, but it's good ramp for Urza which is just as important. Liquimetal Torque, if it's not making mana it can make Urza an artifact giving him menace to have an easier time attacking and doing Commander damage. Sculpting Steel can be a mana rock or any other artifact on the battlefield. It's another Metamorph effect which is excellent in multiplayer Commander. Aerial Surveyor is a Vehicle for ramp, but it can only get basic Plains which is still fine.
Cranial Plating is powerful with artifacts and it can be used with 0 power artifacts to make them crewers or attackers.
Good luck with your deck.
2 weeks ago
Hey, good upgrades to the precon, what you've done so far.
How do you want to win? Determining the main strategy you want to play can help to keep good cards for that strategy and cut unnecessary cards. If you're wanting to keep precon level budget then doing combat damage with Constructs and Commander damage with Urza are directions to consider. Research Thief and Bident of Thassa are excellent budget cards if you want to be attacking with Constructs. Making Urza an artifact makes him a reliable source of Commander damage, but this means including effects to make Urza an artifact.
You have Urza, Lord High Artificer, he's a combo wincon, but to use him as a wincon you'll want to add other cards and more ways to assemble the combo. Drawing cards from Constructs doing combat damage to opponents is a good alternative to playing expensive price tutors to get combo pieces in your hand.
You have Tezzeret, Master of the Bridge, you don't really need Mycosynth Golem especially not for it's price tag. You don't need this Tezzeret either, but if you have it might as well play it. The first cuts to consider are lands since 41 lands is a lot when the strategy here are artifacts. Consider cutting 6 lands? Lands that always ETB tapped and are worse then others that also do this. If you feel you need more mana then add mana sources (rocks, dorks) not lands.
- Orzhov Basilica, Azorius Chancery, Dimir Aqueduct
- Temple of Silence, Temple of Deceit, Temple of Enlightenment
The Bounce lands and Scry lands are worse always ETB tapped lands then Tri lands, Bridges, etc.
Some advice for more cuts is choose the top 20 creatures here, top 10 artifacts and top 10 other nonland cards. By choosing the best cards then you can cut a huge chunk away of lesser cards.
- Urza, Lord High Artificer
- Research Thief
- Losheel, Clockwork Scholar
- Thought Monitor, Ethersworn Sphinx
- Ornithopter of Paradise, Etherium Sculptor
- Phyrexian Metamorph
- Spellskite, Padeem, Consul of Innovation
- Ethersworn Canonist
- Baleful Strix
- Hangarback Walker, Sai, Master Thopterist
- Steel Overseer
- Armix, Filigree Thrasher
- Emry, Lurker of the Loch, Sharuum the Hegemon
- The Reality Chip, Lion Sash
- Sol Ring
- Arcane Signet, Chromatic Lantern
- Liquimetal Torque
- Talisman of Dominance, Talisman of Hierarchy
- Swiftfoot Boots
- Cranial Plating, Shadowspear
- Strionic Resonator
- Their Name is Death, Phyrexian Scriptures
- The Flesh is Weak
- Tezzeret, Master of the Bridge
- Artificer Class
- Austere Command
- Void Rend
- Swords to Plowshares
- Dovin's Veto
For upgrading it's easier to get an established list that's not 99 cards then have a list that's way over 99 cards. Really any 0-3 drop artifact creature who can make some value to take advantage of Urza artifact creature affinity or any 0-2 drop mana rock for more ramp can fill unfilled deck spots.
Good luck with your deck.
3 weeks ago
Think I made about 20 changes, more than I intended before even playing it once. Just cards I already owned though nothing crazy imo. Haven't even finished fishing through my collection at this point for more potential cards to try out in the deck... Who knows what I'll find lol.
I hadn't read Liquimetal Torque very closely... Almost included it thinking I could use it on lands. I'll have to pick up a Liquimetal Coating for that though. Once I do it can double up a few of the sac land effects. Evolving Wilds, Buried Ruin, Ghost Quarter, Myriad Landscape, and Terramorphic Expanse. Don't want to go any deeper on that idea though. It's cool if it all comes together but it takes having the commander and 1 other very specific card plus one of those lands. Without playing some tutor effects going deep on that isn't worthwhile.
A note on Priest of Forgotten Gods if you look at the scryfall/gatherer page you'll see the ability is not seen as a mana ability because it can have targets. So it is possible to double up that ability with Ashnod!
1 month ago
I feel my blood pressure spike every time I look over a deck you build.
As far as what to cut, I think I remember you saying mono-white sacrifice and board wipe tribal so my recommendations are with that in mind. I'd cut the following:
Liquimetal Torque . I'm not sure what you'd want to turn into artifacts, you don't have anything that cares about when an artifact you control is put into the graveyard, and you have plenty of removal that I don't think you'd need to turn other people's permanents into artifacts.
Doomskar . This one I can see why you wouldn't want to cut it. Board wipe at instant speed. But it is the only Foretell card in the deck so once you exile it everyone will know there's a board wipe incoming. Thalia, Guardian of Thraben . It's symmetric, it's staxxy, doesn't really fit your theme I think. Spirited Companion or Wall of Omens . They do the same thing, one of them is just a defender. Soul's Attendant . Just a Soul Warden that costs $2 more. The Fall of Lord Konda Flip . It's removal, but it feels underwhelming, and it's second ability conflicts with Helm of Possession. Oketra's Monument . I feel like every time I build a mono deck, I always end up cutting the monument. That might just be me though. Altar of Dementia . It's an amazing sac outlet, but idk if you want to go for milling out your opponents or self mill.
I'm not sure what else you could cut. I hope that helps a little bit lol