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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
|Pauper Duel Commander||Legal|
Dismal Backwater enters the battlefield tapped.
When Dismal Backwater enters the battlefield, you gain 1 life.
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4 months ago
6 months ago
Dreamstone Hedron Sky Diamond Charcoal Diamond Ebony Fly Prismatic Lens Everflowing Chalice Predict Giant's Amulet Curator's Ward Sphinx of the Second Sun Displacement Wave Dismal Backwater Temple of the False God Replicating Ring Dimir Locket Temple of Deceit
9 months ago
Hey, well done so far for a first deck that's less than $50. Nice pulls from your box of Nashi, Satoru, Junji, and Chip.
You don't have lands? My advice before you go any further is to fill in enough deck spots for 35 lands. They can be 15 Swamp, 15 Island, Command Tower, Path of Ancestry, Secluded Courtyard, Unclaimed Territory, Sunken Hollow. The 30 basic lands can just be place holders until you can add more Dimir dual lands. The idea here is to fill the required deck spots you need for lands that way you can see how many deck spots you have left to add other cards or how many cards you have to cut to add lands.
You might have pulled a Secluded Courtyard and Dismal Backwater from your box since it's an uncommon and a common. If you did add them. Tower, Ancestry, Territory and Hollow are not in the NEO set, but are budget lands that can make more than one color. Tower is a staple land in Commander that all your mulicolored decks can use.
To add 35 lands you will have to cut 14 cards since currently you have 79 cards and you need 99 cards + Satoru to make 100 cards. Some cuts to consider are little creatures who are not Ninjas and don't have any ability that helps them to attack such as flying or unblockable. Enormous Energy Blade is the worse card here, the turn you equip it to a creature you control that creature can't attack with the +4/0 pump because it becomes tapped, easy cut. Some other cards to consider cutting:
- Leech Gauntlet
- Short Circuit
- Dockside Chef
- Iron Apprentice
- Automated Artificer
- Papercraft Decoy
- Virus Beetle
- Chainflail Centipede
- Guardians of Oboro
- Kami of Terrible Secrets
- Saiba Trespassers
- Dokuchi Shadow-Walker
- Undercity Scrounger
After you add lands I offer more help if you're interested. Good luck with your deck.
1 year ago
First of, you’ve got two Dismal Backwaters and two Noosegraf Mobs in there. Acererak the Archlich is an infinite wincon with Rooftop Storm. if you have Poppet Factory flipped with Wilhelt out, Altar of Dementia can mill your opponents to zero. To help you find pieces Sidisi, Undead Vizier is a great zombie to do so. Ebondeath, Dracolich is a great recurrable zombie. Reflections of Littjara can make your toys twice the fun. Boneknitter could also do some work for ya here. Loyal Subordinate will help you do damage if combat gets shut down. Victimize will do you service, and Patriarch's Bidding can help refill your board after a board wipe. Speaking of which, consider Noxious Ghoul and Meathook Massacre can help you clear boards that need an enigma. Hope some of that helps ya. Enjoy zombies!
1 year ago
Hey, you're welcome.
40 lands is a lot of lands and you also have ramp sources to help to make mana. You would be fine cutting 2-4 lands and filling those spots with low CMC budget cards that draw such as Omen of the Sea , Wall of Omens and Brainstorm . The idea is more draw that also has interaction with Aminatou could replace some lands because overall these cards are better for gameplay and the draw can potentially help to draw lands. You have a good number of basic lands for budget and the ratio is also on point. With 16 basic lands then budget dual lands that have interaction with basic lands help for them to ETB untapped.
- Exotic Orchard : staple budget land for three or more colored decks in multiplayer Commander.
- Path of Ancestry : can make one color of the three Esper colors.
- Caves of Koilos
- Prairie Stream : is an Island.
- Sunken Hollow : is an Island.
- Shineshadow Snarl
- Ash Barrens : nice as a potential turn one play to landcycle to get a basic land of your choice for your second turn land for color fixing that you need to cast Aminatou.
- Temple of Enlightenment
- Temple of Deceit
- Mystic Sanctuary
- Bojuka Bog
Ideally, you want most if not all the lands in the manabase to ETB untapped to help gameplay. Since then you can tap the land for mana the turn you play it, but that's impossible when on such a low budget unless playing 30+ basic lands which is not recommended with three colors. The lands that you play that will always ETB tapped should have other uses or be able to make one of any three colors you need. An example is Arcane Sanctum is good, Dimir Guildgate isn't good. If you have to play many lands that always ETB tapped then might as well play the ones that also have bonus interaction with your Commander.
The Scry lands ( Temple of Silence ) and Halimar Depths ETB tapped, but they have interaction with the Aminatou + Guardian + Oath combo. Aminatou can blink a Scry land as the first permanent which lets you scry through the rest of your library to find Strix or another permanent draw source to cast to then draw a win condition to cast. The Gain lands ( Tranquil Cove ) also can be blinked and blinking one of them with the combo gives you infinite life. Consider three of each of Scry lands and Gain lands?
Utility lands such as Mystic Sanctuary give you something when it ETB, can be blinked by Aminatou and be part of the combo. Sanctuary when blinked if you control three other Islands can be a repeatable way to recur an instant or sorcery. It can setup a card with miracle since you recur the card to the top of your library to draw on your next turn or even on an opponent's turn if card with miracle is the first card you draw on opponent's turn.
Example of an upgraded budget manabase:
- 6x Plains, 6x Island, 4x Swamp
- Command Tower , Exotic Orchard , Path of Ancestry , Arcane Sanctum
- Esper Panorama , Ash Barrens , Evolving Wilds
- Halimar Depths , Temple of Enlightenment , Temple of Silence , Temple of Deceit
- Caves of Koilos , Shineshadow Snarl
- Prairie Stream , Sunken Hollow
- Mystic Sanctuary , Bojuka Bog
- Tranquil Cove , Dismal Backwater , Scoured Barrens
1 year ago
Do you think the new Snow Dual Lands in Kaldheim will see play? If so, in what decks?
Let me know what you think.
1 year ago
You are definitely focusing too much on mill to enable only 6 cards in your deck. You could be doing it much more organically, as you mentioned, with removal/discard/counters.
If there is a mill card you could look at, it might be Paranoid Delusions, since you can mill an opponent 6 cards in one turn with it easily and potentially get to 9 the following turn, which can enable your plan consistently throughout the game.
I would definitely cut Mind Sculpt and Memory Sluice in favor of more control cards. Chainer's Edict, another copy of Cast Down and Disfigure are classics. Artful Dodge is another one that confuses me and could probably be cut.
Wight of Precinct Six doesn't seem like a great card, since it only counts creatures. In the very late game it will be big, but it seems like most of the time it will be a weaker and more expensive Gurmag Angler (not to mention getting weaker with graveyard hate).
1 year ago
Bountiful Promenade replacing Blossoming Sands
Luxury Suite replacing Bloodfell Caves
Morphic Pool replacing Dismal Backwater
Rejuvenating Springs replacing Thornwood Falls
Sea of Clouds replacing Tranquil Cove
Spectator Seating replacing Wind-Scarred Crag
Spire Garden replacing Rugged Highlands
Training Center replacing Swiftwater Cliffs
Undergrowth Stadium replacing Jungle Hollow
Vault of Champions replacing Scoured Barrens