Creature — Snake Shaman
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Orochi Leafcaller Discussion
6 months ago
Funny you should mention Quartzwood Crasher. He's the star of the Kaheera deck I'm working on.
As for Mono-green 5 color, I don't know how else to say it, and that's how one of my friends described it. It has an all-green mana base and uses Jegantha, the Wellspring, Orochi Leafcaller, and mana dorks to cast the 5 color creatures. Taste the Rainbow - $25 Budget Casual if you're interested.
6 months ago
As with most new decks, I'd recommend starting any edits by thinning down to 60 cards. Your land count is really low for a 100 card deck, but it should be fine for a 60 card deck with enough mana dorks, so I'd cut 40 from the nonlands. The best cards to remove are anything with poor cost efficiency or minimal impact in the ramp archetype. Elvish Mystic is an example of a card to keep because it serves as a cheap accelerant towards your biggest threats. By contrast, Orochi Leafcaller does (almost) literally nothing in a mono-green deck except be a 1 mana 1/1. On the bomb side of things, I'd choose Terra Stomper over Arcbound Wanderer every time, especially since Wanderer only has synergy with the aforementioned snake. Then you have something like Demon's Horn which is pretty terrible in most black decks. And since this is a green deck, it may never trigger at all.
Once down to 60, I'd start looking for upgrades to the existing cards. Some elf ramp options I'm partial to are Joraga Treespeaker, Elvish Piper, Ezuri, Renegade Leader, Craterhoof Behemoth/End-Raze Forerunners, and Archetype of Endurance.
10 months ago
You've got 19 ramp cards, which with a 5 color deck is fairly high. You could turn a couple of signets into Nature's Lore and maybe Skyshroud Claim as they both can tutor up dual lands into play. Your curve's upper arch is at 3, and with your ramp I could see you possibly having a working deck at somewhere around 34-36 lands. Assuming you want to add 6 lands, I'd recommend Untaidake, the Cloud Keeper, Reflecting Pool, City of Brass, Karn's Bastion, Tarnished Citadel, and Ancient Tomb. Orochi Leafcaller, Heroes' Podium, Blackblade Reforged, Fyndhorn Elves, Elvish Mystic, and Avacyn's Pilgrim. If you want a more control deck, you are gonna have to make further cuts for removal and counter spells, as well as some hate cards, but that decision is up to you. It looks great for a first EDH deck, +1
1 year ago
RustyMC just wanna link to the cards you mentioned so it's easier for onlookers like me (who don't know as many cards) to understand;
1 year ago
Thanks for your input Saiyamax I already run many cards that fulfill the role that Shapers of Nature would fill. The main use I see with it is if I'm trying to win with Quicksilver Elemental instead of Kraj but Quicksilver elemental is on the way out form the deck as I'm primarily running it because I have a foil copy. I used to run Orochi Leafcaller but I found that I had enough blue sources that it never really mattered.
1 year ago
1 year ago
poorpinkus, I just recently made a Kraj deck for the same reason, to see it grow beyond control because it was designed to choose its own evolution. Doi. I have been having the same results at the moment (alpha version of the deck) and that Kraj kicks off by turn 6 or 7: I am trying to cut that down to a turn or two sooner. One thought I had was increasing creature ramp. I saw you have a 'Transmute' card, I use that mechanic heavily in another deck (Nekusar RBU) specifically to get my combo items within the 2, 3 and 4 CMC range.
Here is my deck: Kraj-Maga Tap Dancing
You'll see about 3 or more versions of the same mechanic within the deck, especially with creatures. One of the fastest guarantee win items is the tap-to-ping creatures. Just tap once, deal damage to creature or player (must include player) and there you have it. At this point I have been considering just adding more creature ramp, transmute spells, creature tutor and counter spells.
Creature ramp is the big money money of the deck and gives you a chance to bring Kraj out sooner and as you noticed, the moment Kraj is in play it just goes off. For the creature ramp though I have been trying to stick to the 2-or-more mana per tap creatures. Gyre Sage, Gyre Engineer, Incubation Druid are great since the last two can give easier access to infinite untap andthough the Engineer will produce infinite colorless/green mana if you have a single blue untap ability ready. Ilysian Caryatid is another good option for potentially having 2 blue mana (with Kraj in play) to grant true unlimited mana for all colors. But I see you've already solved the mana conversion problem with Orochi Leafcaller and Pili-Pala (sick card for this deck).
Transmute and Tutor will get you what you need (obviously) and I've added as many ways as I can to do just that. I understand though you're using a budget to keep this deck real and some tutor spells are really pricey. Chord of Calling, Green Sun's Zenith, Birthing Pod are good but are probably out of budget, but Prime Speaker Vannifar has dropped considerably and Neoform is a similar outlet. Vannifar could be a superior solution to a Kraj deck because with a +1/+1 counter on her you could have infinite untap-access to her ability, but only in sorcery speed. Another star contender is Momir Vig, Simic Visionary but for Momir to really be effective he relies on both green and blue creature spells. A way around this is using spells that "change the text of target permanent" cards like Trait Doctoring or Whim of Volrath which also has a buyback but that already has too much work involved around a 'guest star' creature. Cool thing about Momir and Vannifar: they are both elves, so if yo have a sac outlet you can add Wirewood Herald that will tutor one of them to your hand. Transmute is also a good way around your deck, simply find your win condition creature combos by CMC and get the Transmutes you need. My deck's winning combos are almost all between 2 and 4 mana, I honestly don't think I need anything over that cost, one being Endbringer at 6 CMC because there are more tap-ping guys that cost less but honestly I am considering dropping it for another ramp creature or counter spell, granted its also a draw-card source.. On to Counter spells...
I am seeing a lot of "trample" and "unblockable" but honestly this experimental blob needs to just sit and make magic happen: no need for attackers. It is far too easy to get what you need in play and use the activated ability to achieve victory; that being said, enter the counter-turtle! Infinite mana seems to be the fastest thing I can get rolling for this guy, once that happens its a matter of time before the other shoe drops for a win, a strategy is to play safe and deny as many things as possible coming your way or in the way of a boardwipe. Rake up as many counterspells as you can, especially the 'split second' ones like Last Word. Another route for spells is kicker, multikicker and strive since mana 'ain't no thang' to Kraj.
All other spells or abilities that give more +1/+1 counters and such I feel are wasted placement cards because once Kraj gets untapping things get out of hand immediately. But, Grafting is definitely the way to at least get that started so it can save you a step if you're looking for the budget route. For example, Doubling Season: sweet card but we don't make tokens and all I need is one +1/+1 counter, not double. But, I do have Vigean Hydropon to distribute +1/+1 counters to my homies entering the battlefield. In several cases the 'Graft' option can work with Momir Vig if he's in play since some are blue/green creatures.
These are all really just ideas and options I've seen work for me but I'm also bouncing them to get feedback and find that chunk of fat that can be trimmed to make a leaner and meaner Experiment Kraj deck. Essentially all my cards involve the greatest of the greatest that I am assuming I have infinite mana, untaps, etc. instead of the 'once per turn'. I want everything, all the time and without end. Good ol' "Nah brah thanks, I'm here to break the game not have tea" attitude.
Thanks for sharing and thanks for reading the great wall-o-text!
1 year ago
Think like this. What do you wanna tutor for. The answer is Orochi Leafcaller . I would like to recommend Eladamri's Call . Or things of that sort. I think there is a lot of budget alternativs that will do the job. I also found this Dizzy Spell .