Mass Diminish

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal

Mass Diminish

Sorcery

Until your next turn, creatures target player controls have base power and toughness 1/1.

Flashback (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)

DreadKhan on unthinkable apocalypse

2 months ago

I'm not certain the Commander has enough explosive power to consistently win vs 2 decks, but I have very good results in 1 v 1 with my Rakdos deck, and it often has spare cards by the end of the game, be it wipe or removal, because the deck just runs so much of those, with lots of the removal hitting more than 1 target (I love stuff like Phyrexian Purge, Fire Covenant, Make an Example, and Volcanic Offering can each be a terror of a card, and a deck running all of them has lots of pinpoint removal that will clear lots of stuff out. Ashes to Ashes and Reckless Spite also exist fwiw, and if you aren't certain you'll have creatures out, Tergrid's Shadow can do a bit of work, as can Plaguecrafter or Demon's Disciple, cards Sedris can recur for 2B even. Another value card is Dredge the Mire, which can cheat in the 3 worst creatures in people's graveyards, note certain creatures will kill you if you control them, so check before playing! Necromantic Selection not only clears the field, it also gives you back the best thing, this is extra juicy if you use some sort of Indestructible creature(s) that won't die. If you consistently have a fairly big creature, or one with Deathtouch and Lifelink, Chandra's Ignition is one sided by definition, one of many cards that shines brightly with Basilisk Collar (which is also very good with Jaya Ballard, Task Mage or even good old Banshee, Jaya's 6 damage wipe really is amazing if you've got Collar on her, though it'll kill her too). If you expect to have multiple opponents, Goad is a very strong effect, Karazikar, the Eye Tyrant is potentially pretty solid, lots of card draw. There is also Kardur, Doomscourge that will force everyone's hand. Spectacular Showdown is a great card if you've actually got a board of your own to finish people off, keep in mind that on your next turn, you not only won't have been attacked by any pre-existing creature, everyone else will have swung for the fences with Double Strike, and they will likely have nothing left to defend with, making your Double Strikers very effective. Another Goad source that is great with a creature heavy board is Agitator Ant, which is hilarious a lot of the time. If you're using Goad effects, War Tax can let an opponent have a way around them, if there is a tax to attack Goad fails, and War Cadence is absolutely devastating with Goad, even a tax of 1 to block can make blocking impossible for weenie decks, and you can use either on anyone's turn.

As you've got access to Blue, there are a few non-Rakdos tricks you can use, the most hilarious I know of is Mass Diminish, note that it lasts until your next turn and have a good laugh. There is also Sudden Spoiling, which is powerful but lasts for that turn, or Polymorphist's Jest, which is similarly a 1 turn solution. I use Mass Diminish more aggressively, to make a player hyper-vulnerable to attackers (and make them unable to counter attack), getting two casts is just savage. Visions of Duplicity can create some chaos with it's two casts, Cultural Exchange is obscene if someone else has better creatures. Bident of Thassa is glorious if you want both of it's effects, forcing people to attack is incredibly mean, and this doesn't require you to run a weenie like Goblin Diplomats, but that's also a fun card fwiw. If you're going to run Oriq Loremage, you might slip in a huge creature to Unearth, something like Dragon Tyrant can be huge and not break the bank, Double Strike and Firebreathing are really good together, and you won't have to pay the upkeep with Unearth, he's dead before that matters.

I was looking at your land count and average Mana Value and I think you probably are running too few lands at this point, it's very tempting to cut them, but 30 is probably too few for a MV that is over 2.5. You might get away with adding 2 mana ramp, but I'd still aim for at least 36 lands (or MDFCs that count as a land, you probably already have the best two MDFCs in those colours, but people also run Malakir Rebirth  Flip) to ensure you can consistently cast stuff. There is a smattering of ways you can run less lands/ramp, but these all come with downsides, but in Grixis you can run 4 solid Bounce Lands, Dimir Aqueduct and Guildless Commons should be in here as well if you want a lower land count, these let you hit another land drop when you draw them. You might also run stuff like Thran Dynamo or Worn Powerstone to help you hit higher MVs sooner, ramping by only 1 mana feels bad compared to hitting a land drop most of the time, there is also Gilded Lotus, but hitting 5 mana can be rough. Coalition Relic can charge for 1 turn, Skyclave Relic is super versatile/rugged, and Everflowing Chalice can be huge if you want, 6-10 mana is absurd but sometimes comes up. Cantrips like Ponder and Preordain are also good at digging for a land, but I know in Talrand it stings pretty bad when you Preordain and don't find a land and I needed one. As for some cards to remove, I'll take a look, but if I'm trying to build a deck that can handle attention, I look first at cards that will hurt only 1 player, unless that card will almost certainly end that player, either right away or in a few turns.

A few to consider removing (I may be missing why you have them in, so user discretion is advised or something): Archive Trap, Outpost Siege, Palace Siege, Ponder, Preordain, Haunting Echoes, Cruel Ultimatum (this seems insanely hard to cast, and hits only 1 player, unless you can copy it I'd run Captive Audience if I want to hose one player hard), Cranial Extraction, Cormela, Glamour Thief, Kess, Dissident Mage, Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger, Lobber Crew, Loyal Subordinate, Nekusar, the Mindrazer, Obeka, Brute Chronologist, Phenax, God of Deception, Runo Stromkirk  Flip, Spear Spewer, and Thermo-Alchemist.Some maybe cards include Angrath, Captain of Chaos, and Cryptolith Fragment  Flip (for another land, maybe a better rock, there is Thought Vessel, but fixing is sweet in Grixis).

Hope some of this is helpful!

DreadKhan on Killing You Softly with Card Draw

2 months ago

I often find War Tax and Flood are playable, especially if I usually am not the most threatening deck (and thus are less targeted depending on groups), either can very much ruin a deck's day. There is also Mass Diminish that can either neutralize a threat or make someone super vulnerable, in addition to just being the funniest way to use resources most of the time. I feel like there are a few situations you'd prefer Polymorphist's Jest, but Mass Diminish's shockingly long duration means it can do crazier stuff in my experience.

You might want good old Ivory Tower in here, not sure if you play in a meta where people win via non-infinite combat/damage, obviously a stinky garbage fire if everyone plays infinite combo.

Since you'll often have extra cards, not sure if Dreamscape Artist as a repeatable Blue Harrow matters enough (it's slow but the untapped lands make it 'cheap' ramp), also nice with Graveyard utilization.

DreadKhan on Noyan Dar EDH

3 months ago

Have you thought about running some of the various Opt and Portent variants out there? to get a Noyan Dar tigger and filter your topdeck seems good, I love playing them in Talrand, they're great early game when you kept a dud hand (I swear sometimes it's like I zone out, keep a bad hand and just regain my senses when it's time for my first turn), and they're good later when they're almost a free trigger.

I could be wrong, but I'd play Dig Through Time or Treasure Cruise over Glimpse of Freedom. I actually like both Delve spells in a deck that likes to cast spells.

If you like Propaganda effects, there is War Tax, which is similar, but can be used during any player's turn, so it's really useful if there is an opponent you cannot let swing, and it's very funny if there is an Archenemy that uses attacking. Another way to brutally discourage most decks from attacking (at least for a cycle or two) is Mass Diminish, a card that probably should see more play in decks that attack. I still can't believe they printed Diminish to last a whole turn cycle, not just that turn, it can also just get a player killed in addition to hampering their attacks.

Cool deck, I bet there have been some very, very memorable casts of Tragic Arrogance, that's really good in Noyan.

RobbieDragon871 on Toxrill blue/black

3 months ago

You'll want to add Sludge Monster. It makes use of slime tokens as well and will nearly board wipe on the second turn when combined with Toxrill. you might also look at cards that proliferate. Mass Diminish is handy in combination with Toxrill as well.

DreadKhan on Keep Out of my Castle

4 months ago

Baird, Steward of Argive offers protection for your Planeswalkers, which is handy.

Since you've got Dawnbreak Reclaimer, I feel like you might have an interest in some of the Advocates, I use Spurnmage Advocate, which can be used to help one player while hindering another, and Pulsemage Advocate, which can help you directly while making a presently allied opponent a bit stronger. Mass Diminish is a really surprising effect, there is very little some decks can do other than lose when their creatures become 1/1s for an entire turn cycle, while also having Flashback is just unreasonable value sometimes. War Cadence might be interesting if you want to force damage on an opponent from attackers, it makes it very hard to block, which also complicates things for your opponents who never know if you're going to use it on them. Flumph is a funny card, but you get to chose who gets the card at least.

A bit out there, but Strixhaven Stadium has a lot of synergy with stuff that makes it hard for people to attack you, especially since you have lots of flyers/evasives to sneak in with, this will speed things up if it sticks around.

balefire123 on Tibor and Lumia Deathslingers

1 year ago

I like this! An uncommon Commander with some spice in the list. This seems the perfect deck for Student of Elements  Flip, and I don't think I've seen a better list for Mass Diminish and Polymorphist's Jest.

The easiest addition, imo, is Trinket Mage to fetch Basilisk Collar, Sol Ring, etc.

Cards like Archaeomancer and Ardent Elementalist aren't particularly exciting, but they do help by adding more recursion/redundancy to the deck. The Mirari Conjecture does something similar, but with an added bonus after two turns.

Enchantments like Dismiss into Dream and Cowardice are some spicy ways to turn blue cantrips into removal.

I think the token producers (especially Young Pyromancer) conflict with T&L's second ability, but I also think they offer up an opportunity for a new win condition: Dragonshift. If you go this route, I'd suggest adding cards like Murmuring Mystic, Talrand, Sky Summoner, Metallurgic Summonings and Shark Typhoon. Deekah, Fractal Theorist deserves special mention, as the tokens it creates will keep their +1/+1 counters even after being Dragonshifted.

I don't like Kaza, Roil Chaser here, because I see this as a deck that wants to be casting a bunch of small spells, not a few large or X spells. I also think you are leaning too heavily into copying spells for much the same reason. Copying a Brainstorm =/= copying a Comet Storm. Even copying Stitch in Time feels like a waste. Maybe take out cards like Increasing Vengeance for more counterspells or interaction? Archmage Emeritus, Niv-Mizzet, Parun and Wavebreak Hippocamp help you maintain card advantage even when countering your opponent's threats.

Overall, I feel this deck is looking to control the board with cards like Basilisk Collar or Mass Diminish + Tibor and Lumia, maintain card parity with counterspells + cantrips and Archmage Emeritus (and company), and then follow up with either a swarm of tokens + Dragonshift/Day of the Dragons or individual threats such as Niv-Mizzet or even Nezahal, Primal Tide or Hullbreaker Horror. I think you'd be best served by upping your interaction/counterspell suite, eliminating some of the more expensive sorceries (everything 4+ MV) and X-spells, and focusing less on spell copying in favor of casting more cheap spells in the first place. I hope this helps! I haven't really thought much about this commander before, so thanks for bringing it to my attention. Might try my own spin with this lovely Izzet couple.

hmhlund on Silumgar the Drifting Death

1 year ago

This is an awesome unique brew! Ya never expect Dimir dragons. I’ve always liked Mass Diminish and Polymorphist's Jest , just never had a great place for them — but here it is!

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