Demonic Consultation

Demonic Consultation

Instant

Name a card. Remove the top six cards of your library from the game, then reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal the named card. Put that card into your hand and remove all other cards revealed this way from the game.

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Set Rarity
Masters Edition II (ME2) Uncommon
Ice Age (ICE) Uncommon

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Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Highlander Legal
2019-10-04 Legal
Leviathan Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

Demonic Consultation occurrence in decks from the last year

Commander / EDH:

All decks: 0.02%

Demonic Consultation Discussion

MandrewM on Consultation Kess: a Primer

7 hours ago

So i get that Reanimate is part of the intuition pile (that also fetches Thassa's Oracle and Demonic Consultation) but is it taking up an unnecessary slot in the deck because either Underworld Breach or Yawgmoth's Will can be fetched instead of it and fulfil the same job as Reanimate does. Or do we still run reanimate because of the mana efficiency on our combo turn?

RiotRunner789 on Zaxara instant

2 days ago

Instead of adding Jace/Labman add Demonic Consultation and Thassa's Oracle. Two card combo for the win and demonic consultation can act as a hail-Mary tutor for a black at instant speed for a card to hand.

RiotRunner789 on Ninja'd

5 days ago

As for a win-con you are in good colors for some infinite combos. You could consider Demonic Consultation with Thassa's Oracle, Bloodchief Ascension with Mindcrank, or Cephalid Aristocrat with Lightning Greaves and some empty library win-con.

Then either put in a tutor or two (not as fun) or put in a couple more ways to draw cards like Insight, Kumena's Awakening, or Phyrexian Arena.

With a couple combos, then you should win most of the time with your ninja's but have the added bonus of sometimes going to an infinite win or having a second way to win. Also, with a bunch of small creatures out and access to green you could just throw in a End-Raze Forerunners and/or Overwhelming Stampede

Joking101 on Chulane iCameo (cEDH Primer)

1 week ago

@jaymc1130.

Amulet of Vigor is a neat tech, but the biggest issue is that Azorius Chancery, (along with the two other bounce lands) are absolutely and entirely unplayable in cEDH. The most important turns in cEDH are the first three, so each and every mana cannot be wasted. Otherwise you will lose the game to a turn three Demonic Consultation+Thassa's Oracle or Food Chain deck. Lands that enter the battlefield tapped must offer an unbelievably powerful effect (such as Boseiju, Who Shelters All), otherwise the mana inefficiency is too significant a cost.

Beyond that, you also want to assess the function of each card outside of the combo in which it is used. Cards that are useless outside of the combo (like Laboratory Maniac or Thassa's Oracle) are not ideal to run. Many decks choose to do so because they need to win, and these are very compact, but if we can avoid it, we will.

The reason I mention this is because Jeskai Barricade and Deputy of Acquittals don't offer any value outside of the combo. In our Cloudstone Curio line, it requires fewer land requirements and fewer creature requirements; Not only that, but it requires cards that we already want to play. It doesn't make sense to play cards specifically for combos, when instead we can play combos that layer into our deck with the cards we already want to be playing.

Hopefully that explanation makes sense.

casual_competitive on Seared Sausage

1 week ago

wouldn't having discard cards that affect everyone be better then ones that target one opponent? and whats the reason for Tainted Pact and Demonic Consultation, is there a Laboratory Maniac type of card in rakdos?

Brogan54 on Oloro, Ageless Ascetic

1 week ago

My recommendations :

I think most people will tell you that Oloro offers little competitive advantage to you compared to other esper commander like Zur (who can fetch Necropotence into play) or even Aminatou (who is a combo piece in the command zone). I think upsides for Oloro would be that he can do larger ad nauseam and possibly can even run Humility which few decks can win while it is on the board.

LOW IMPACT:

Teferi's Protection

Rhox Faithmender

Debt to the Deathless

Despark

MANA COST TOO HIGH

Merciless Eviction

Anguished Unmaking

Disallow

Thran Dynamo

TOO SLOW

Mox Tantalite

Phyrexian Arena

Twilight Prophet

Crypt Ghast

Winds of Abandon

Vindicate

Search for Azcanta  Flip

I would first add better ramp, better draw, potential Stax, tutors and then other win cons.

RAMP

Dark Ritual

Fellwar Stone

Mox Diamond

Talisman of Hierarchy

Talisman of Progress

Copy Artifact

Mox Opal

Cabal Ritual

Grim Monolith

Lotus Petal

Dramatic Reversal

DRAW

Ad Nauseam

Night's Whisper

Windfall

Timetwister

Whispering Madness

Brainstorm

Ponder

Preordain

Verity Circle (good against dorks)

Plunge into Darkness (a good Impulse)

Mindblade Render

Sygg, River Cutthroat

STAX

Drannith Magistrate

Aven Mindcensor

Cursed Totem

Notion Thief

Humility

Blind Obedience

Rest in Peace

Torpor Orb

BETTER COUNTERSPELLS

Mental Misstep

Dispel

Flusterstorm

Delay

Spell Pierce

Spell Snare

Negate

Tale's End

BETTER REMOVAL

Chain of Vapor

Gilded Drake

Yahenni's Expertise

Into the Roil

Blink of an Eye

TUTORS

Vampiric Tutor

Imperial Seal

Transmute Artifact

Intuition

Whir of Invention

Praetor's Grasp

Spellseeker

Academy Rector

OTHER COMBOS

CONSULT COMBO Demonic Consultation

Tainted Pact

Jace, Wielder of Mysteries

Laboratory Maniac

AD NAUSEAM COMBO Angel's Grace

Ad Nauseam (draw whole deck, can Windfall and make everyone die while AG means you can't lose

Helm of Obedience

Rest in Peace / Leyline of the Void

Heliod Walking Ballista

Approach of the Second Sun

Dramatic Scepter

Isochron Scepter

Rocks that produce at least three mana total (outlet is extort with blind obedience or crypt ghast) If have pristine Talisman gain infinite life, which is infinite draw with commander

Didn't look at landbase

RNR_Gaming on Tuning up Prossh

2 weeks ago

So, Demonic Consultation may help bring this to the next level. Additionally, maybe adding in a sweet new removal package. Assassin's Trophy and Fire Covenant would be super nice.

Spirits on Kaalia, Mirror Breaker EDH

2 weeks ago

Hi DankMagicianD,

Thanks for the comments. Glad you found it informative, which is the goal!

The reason Giver of Runes is excluded is exactly what you noted, cannot give itself protection, so it takes away the ability to block, and then for protection. It also means itself can be removed fairly easily.

In addition, once I have a Mother of Runes in play to protect Kaalia of the Vast or make her unblockable (by a single color), I don't want a duplication of that effect. Imagine a starting hand with 2x Mother of Runes, wouldn't be good.

Mother of Runes is certainly an optional choice as well, a well timed Silence into a haste Kaalia of the Vast can be more effective, and a Silence has better modularity. I like Mother of Runes because it breaks up the CMC for Silence which allows to go 1 turn earlier in some cases. Again it's subjective.

Easily could be subbed out for other synergy cards too, like a Children of Korlis to enable Razaketh, the Foulblooded or Doom Whisperer opening into Infinite win-con lines, or Thassa's Oracle interaction like Abeyance or Hushbringer. Even with Flash (Protean Hulk) banned, Thassa's Oracle + Tainted Pact or Demonic Consultation still require interaction. Evaluate if your losing because Kaalia of the Vast gets target removed, or if your losing because others are winning first, will help you decide if Mother of Runes and/or Giver of Runes is the right choice, or if you need a stronger interaction package like Red Elemental Blast/Pyroblast which I would highly recommend in a dominated format.

If you prefer Giver of Runes because you need the protection from Colorless, she can replace Mother of Runes, if you don't need that, then Mother of Runes has better modularity and protection. If your getting hit with target removal, double up and run both (or a Silence).

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