Demonic Consultation

Demonic Consultation


Name a card. Remove the top six cards of your library from the game, then reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal the named card. Put that card into your hand and remove all other cards revealed this way from the game.

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Demonic Consultation Discussion

enpc on Damia Mill (Battlecruiser/Dreamcrusher)

3 weeks ago

I'm kind of confused what you're trying to do with the deck. I get that you've used used Dominus - Dreamcrusher Edition as a basis for the deck, however there are a lot of cards that don't really make sense here. For example, you've added Dark Confidant and Ad Nauseam but then have filled ther deck with really high cost cards like Recycle, Null Profusion and Expropriate. You also have Jace, Wielder of Mysteries despite not running Tainted Pact or Demonic Consultation.

Additionally, draw spells like Null Profusion and Recycle don't make sense in a battlecruiser style deck. Cards like that are designed to work with cantrip heavy storm combo decks.

Also, Null Brooch is a really bad counterspell. Discarding your entire hand to counter a spell every time is not a good move, especially when you have lots of very mana intensive cards (i.e. it's slow to play them all). Brooch is much better in decks that constantly want to have little to no cards in hand. I understand that Damia can refill your hand, but it seems like a bad trade-off. Forbid or even Spell Burst would give similar functionality with more control (though all three aren't great).

jsnrice on Ancient tasigur (cedh)

2 months ago

Missing the classic Thassa's Oracle with Demonic Consultation combo.

fadelightningmm on Where do you personally draw …

2 months ago

While the turns to win are pretty spot on I believe the biggest factor that differentiates cEDH from EDH is the deck building.

cEDH tends to have more interaction in general. A lot of that interaction is free spells. The curve tends to be sub 3 mana on average. Lastly, there’s a relatively consistent card pool Dockside Extortionist, Underworld Breach, Thassa's Oracle, Demonic Consultation, and a large amount of fast mana. With the exception of a few cards cEDH also feels like the decks are all very similar

Meanwhile, EDH is more of a wide open format. Optimal play isn’t needed. The decks don’t need to be the absolute best cards and there’s more room for pet cards.

enpc on 9/13 Commander Banning/Unbanning

2 months ago

RambIe: I would believe that a fully tuned golos deck is more than capable of doing what you're describing. I've seen quite a few decks pull of some very impressive plays and getting 5 mana on turn 2 is well within the realsm of possibility. But the kind of deck you're talking about is not what I would call a general representation of casual to mid tier, where the discussion about the banning is based.

When we talk about cEDH, all bets are off. With people dropping turn 2 Thassa's Oracle/Demonic Consultation with Pact of Negation for backup, a full spec Golos is at home and evenly matched. But again, tha banning is not based on that.

For a casual to mid tier (i.e. low to middle pub stomp) deck, designed for a casual to mid tier playgroup to be even semi consistently hitting a turn 2 (or even 3) Golos raises a lot of flags. Specifically around either what your definition of casual/mid tier is or around the clear disparity of players within said playgroup.

Ardees on Chef Dina cEDH

2 months ago

FastNLow Well one of my heuristics when building a combo-oriented deck is that, unless the combo is highly easy to obtain and defend (e.g., the thassa oracle and Demonic Consultation combo, where blue counters protect any other counter or removal, and is achieved by a total cmc of 3), combo pieces should also be useful in addittion to being combo pieces. This is also the reason why I removed Witherbloom Apprentice and Chain of Smog, which required Dosan the Falling Leaf to ensure I would not end up with no ends and a fairly useless permanent (Witherbloom Apprentice).

Based on this, I have opted out of Triskelion because the card per se is not really that exciting, mostly because a very low reward for its mana cost. True, Triskelion and Mikaeus, the Unhallowed do not nee a sac outlet to enable the combo. However, if you simply add Phyrexian Delver and/or Body Snatcher, you're able to reanimate Protean Hulk to tutor for all the pieces you need (generally Viscera Seer or Carrion Feeder). Body Snatcher is an amazing card - it also helps you get rid of Mikaeus or Hulk if they are both stuck in your hand, and to reanimate them right away with a sac outlet. Bare in mind that if you are looking for the Mikaeus+Ballista combo, you need at least one of these two, otherwise Mikaeus+Ballista only trigger infinite LTB and ETB (Ballista pings itself). You can see more about this synergy line on my deck I linked before. But going back to the main point, Ballista is a card that can remove on t1 or 2 some early ramp creatures, or some cards such as Esper Sentinel. Phyrexian Delver and Body Snatcher are enablers that are useful under different circumstances, and same with Viscera Seer and Carrion Feeder.

Of course, I'm talking from a Meren perspective. But as a Golgari, the synergy works for every deck developing around hulk (in fact, at times I win on the hulk combo line without even casting Meren during the whole game).

Hope this clarifies!

CrimsonWizard on Necropotence.dec [cEDH]

2 months ago

Neowurm13 the deck can theoretically win T1 with Thassa's Oracle and a bunch of fast mana. For example: Island, Mox Diamond pitching a land, Chrome Mox pitching a U or B card, cast Demonic Consultation, cast Thassa's Oracle.

RambIe on A Prosper Doomsday pile

3 months ago

Of course me personally if I would put Demonic Consultation as my top card then go get a smoke break

Sheldaconda on Circu - Lantern Lobotomy

3 months ago


So you would name a card you don't have in the deck with Demonic Consultation milling myself, then cast Thassa's Oracle for the ETB win?

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