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Each player who has cast a nonartifact spell this turn can't cast additional nonartifact spells.
multimedia on Urza's Legacy
2 weeks ago
Hey, some interesting card choices for upgrades to the precon. I can tell your deck is based on the precon because I see Darksteel Juggernaut.
A kink here to work on is the avg. CMC. The mana curve is very high at 4.3 not including Organic Extinction and Mycosynth Golem. The precon mana curve is already high at 3.5 not including Thought Monitor. A higher mana curve would be fine if supported with lots more low mana cost ramp, but you cut most of the low mana cost ramp (Signets, Liquimetal, Vessel) from the precon. There's only 6 ramp sources here 3 CMC or less which is low.
You could have a difficult time casting Urza using artifact creature affinity with only 7 artifact creatures 3 CMC or less. You really can't count on Urza's artifact affinity to first cast him and having not many ramp sources, ramp can't be counted on either. Master Transmuter is a great upgrade, she helps a lot when playing a lower amount of ramp. To improve the mana curve which will help gameplay consider choosing a few of the better high mana cost cards and cutting the others? Most 4 drops here are much better than the 5-7+ drops and that's good for the mana curve.
Research Thief, The Mightstone and Weakstone Meld, Blightsteel Colossus, Mycosynth Golem, Thopter Assembly, Tezzeret, Master of the Bridge, Organic Extinction, Darksteel Forge, Mycosynth Lattice, Kuldotha Forgemaster, Cyberdrive Awakener these are the better 5-7 CMC cards here. The others could be cut to lower the mana curve because they're simply not as good as these.
- Thief, it's repeatable draw effect is good when you want to be attacking with Constructs.
- Weakstone because you have Urza, Lord Protector Meld.
- Blightsteel, best secondary attacker and because you have Master Transmuter.
- Golem because Urza is a consistent way to create artifacts.
- Assembly because you have Time Sieve.
- Tezzeret because of Constructs.
- Extinction because of Constructs.
- Forge, best protection for all artifacts and because you have Lattice, Transmuter and Padeem.
- Awakener flying for Constructs.
Some upgrades at your price point to consider:
- Esper Sentinel, Mystic Remora
- Diabolic Intent, Fabricate
- Skullclamp (in the precon), Baleful Strix (in the precon)
- Ornithopter of Paradise, Signets and Liquimetal (in the precon)
- The Reality Chip + Sensei's Divining Top combo
- Spellskite, Skrelv, Defector Mite, Ethersworn Canonist
- Skrelv's Hive
- Counterspell, Swords to Plowshares (in the precon)
Good luck with your deck.
XinZhao on KAALIA'S CATACLYSM - Aggro/Stax [cEDH Primer]
3 weeks ago
zAzen7977 Do You think Ethersworn Canonist is necessary?
thefiresoflurve on WIP Control Deck
1 month ago
First, what's your budget like? 'til I know that, I'll keep suggestions "standard".
Sleep + River's Rebuke - not really an EDH card, since you usually have more than one opponent.
Martial Law - similarly, this is just one creature, and there are bound to be so many more problems than just one on the field at a time.
Invisibility - There are better sources of evasion (getting damage through to other players). Also, getting damage through is something Augustin isn't the best at, so that might not make for a strong win-con.
Robe of Mirrors isn't bad to protect your commander, but for 1 more mana you can use Curator's Ward (because Augustin reduces it) and then get 2 cards if someone uses a boardwipe later. I call that a deal. Diplomatic Immunity is another equally costed option as well, if you find your playgroup runs an obnoxious amount of enchantment removal, since it itself is also untargetable.
Consulate Crackdown - Kind of mediocre for what it does. For just one more mana, you can instead run Farewell or Austere Command, which both produce a much better effect.
Some things traditionally run in Augustin are used to basically slow the game to a crawl, and others are used to tax your opponents while this is going on to create advantages for you while you draw into your win conditions: Cursed Totem, Hushbringer, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Vryn Wingmare, Containment Priest, Reidane, God of the Worthy Flip, Hushwing Gryff, Silent Arbiter, Ethersworn Canonist, Wandering Archaic Flip, Smothering Tithe, Rhystic Study, Linvala, Keeper of Silence, Sphere of Resistance, Torpor Orb, Damping Sphere, Static Orb, Karn's Sylex, Meekstone, Crawlspace... not quite an exhaustive list, but it's a really good start, and gets the point across.
There are some weird cards that you can use as win conditions to go with the "stax" style, like Azor's Elocutors.
If you're interested, https://edhrec.com/commanders/grand-arbiter-augustin-iv has some more suggestions as well - in my opinion, it's not a terrible place to start as a new player, although I'd encourage you to switch it up as you and your wallet like from what's listed there.
https://scryfall.com/ can also be a really good tool if you like to go full nerd and search for alternative cards with similar effects to really expensive cards - I've stumbled across a few hidden gems over time by using it.
Hope that helps, and Happy building!
multimedia on Urza, CEO of Machines
2 months ago
Hey, good upgrades to the precon, what you've done so far.
How do you want to win? Determining the main strategy you want to play can help to keep good cards for that strategy and cut unnecessary cards. If you're wanting to keep precon level budget then doing combat damage with Constructs and Commander damage with Urza are directions to consider. Research Thief and Bident of Thassa are excellent budget cards if you want to be attacking with Constructs. Making Urza an artifact makes him a reliable source of Commander damage, but this means including effects to make Urza an artifact.
You have Urza, Lord High Artificer, he's a combo wincon, but to use him as a wincon you'll want to add other cards and more ways to assemble the combo. Drawing cards from Constructs doing combat damage to opponents is a good alternative to playing expensive price tutors to get combo pieces in your hand.
You have Tezzeret, Master of the Bridge, you don't really need Mycosynth Golem especially not for it's price tag. You don't need this Tezzeret either, but if you have it might as well play it. The first cuts to consider are lands since 41 lands is a lot when the strategy here are artifacts. Consider cutting 6 lands? Lands that always ETB tapped and are worse then others that also do this. If you feel you need more mana then add mana sources (rocks, dorks) not lands.
- Orzhov Basilica, Azorius Chancery, Dimir Aqueduct
- Temple of Silence, Temple of Deceit, Temple of Enlightenment
The Bounce lands and Scry lands are worse always ETB tapped lands then Tri lands, Bridges, etc.
Some advice for more cuts is choose the top 20 creatures here, top 10 artifacts and top 10 other nonland cards. By choosing the best cards then you can cut a huge chunk away of lesser cards.
- Urza, Lord High Artificer
- Research Thief
- Losheel, Clockwork Scholar
- Thought Monitor, Ethersworn Sphinx
- Ornithopter of Paradise, Etherium Sculptor
- Phyrexian Metamorph
- Spellskite, Padeem, Consul of Innovation
- Ethersworn Canonist
- Baleful Strix
- Hangarback Walker, Sai, Master Thopterist
- Steel Overseer
- Armix, Filigree Thrasher
- Emry, Lurker of the Loch, Sharuum the Hegemon
- The Reality Chip, Lion Sash
- Sol Ring
- Arcane Signet, Chromatic Lantern
- Liquimetal Torque
- Talisman of Dominance, Talisman of Hierarchy
- Swiftfoot Boots
- Cranial Plating, Shadowspear
- Strionic Resonator
- Their Name is Death, Phyrexian Scriptures
- The Flesh is Weak
- Tezzeret, Master of the Bridge
- Artificer Class
- Austere Command
- Void Rend
- Swords to Plowshares
- Dovin's Veto
For upgrading it's easier to get an established list that's not 99 cards then have a list that's way over 99 cards. Really any 0-3 drop artifact creature who can make some value to take advantage of Urza artifact creature affinity or any 0-2 drop mana rock for more ramp can fill unfilled deck spots.
Good luck with your deck.
DawnsRayofLight on Breya Treasures
2 months ago
Given the Mana curve, you can probably get away with 33-34 lands.
Might as well run Urza, Lord Protector Meld as well
I know you were talking about adding Mycosynth Lattice to use with Vandalblast and Karn, the Great Creator (it is not official, but at some point they're going to need to create wishboard in the EDH rules to use with fetching cards outside the game, 10 is what I usually see allowed--> you could use this to add some artifacts to board that could act in a more stax capacity.
Some cards I am not big on, i.e. I think you can drop these:
Impact Tremors: I get it works with a combo but I feel like there are better cards to use
Fable of the Mirror-Breaker Flip: a pretty good card, it could fit in here, but you may need to run more reanimating cards, I don't feel it exactly fits too much with the goblin token and the mini-kiki
Pitiless Plunderer: excels in decks with lots of creature sacs but I don't see as much in this list, I feel at a glance, that it is more of a dead card more often than not.
That should give you some spots for Karn, Mycosynth, Urza, and maybe some artifact recursion like Tameshi, Reality Architect and/or Mishra, Tamer of Mak Fawa
Pageofheart on Alibou, Ancient Witness to the Artificial Sickness
3 months ago
I really like your Alibou list! It's a fair chunk different than mine, but my guess is that we play is fairly different metas. My playgroup doesn't do stax too much, so i've stayed away from them in my build. It's cool to see a deck list that utilizes cards like Ethersworn Canonist and Lodestone Golem. Sands of Time looks chaotic as hell, and pretty synergistic with Alibou.
Also, the infect win conditions are fun. Grafted Exoskeleton is terrifying on Alibou.
I like seeing the graveyard interactions in the deck, I ended up cutting a lot of that from my deck as it doesn't directly synergize with Alibou, but Scrap Trawler, Goblin Welder and Sun Titan can do wonderful things together.
I have a question somewhat unrelated to this deck, I have an Imotekh the Stormlord deck which does a lot of artifact graveyard shennanigans and runs Kuldotha Forgemaster. How has that card played out for you? I've found it a little slow sometimes, but it also looks like it can do insane things. What makes for a good artifact shell around Kuldotha?
WarpedZerghead on Sen Triplets
6 months ago
Crap, forgot to add these guys to the Control list:
Ethersworn Canonist to slow down your opponents
Grand Abolisher to stop them from slowing you down or sneak ahead themselves on your turn
thefiresoflurve on Sounds About White to Me
7 months ago
If you're looking for help making cuts, the first step I would take is to look at your symmetrical stax pieces and see which ones hurt you the most:
Deafening Silence, Grafdigger's Cage, Containment Priest, Ethersworn Canonist, Hushbringer, Kataki, War's Wage, Leonin Arbiter, Rest in Peace, Sphere of Resistance, Spirit of the Labyrinth, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Trinisphere, Sanctum Prelate, Rule of Law, Thorn of Amethyst, whew I think that's all.
Of these, you want to look at the ones which most hamper what you want to do, or have negative synergies with other cards you run. You have a few cards that say "draw", so Spirit of the Labyrinth is IMO the very first cut you should make.
Another negative synergy I saw is Hushbringer and Authority of the Consuls. I like Authority a lot better since it synergizes with Heliod.
The next ones I'd cut could take one of two routes: so, I'm thinking of cards like Ethersworn Canonist and Sphere of Resistance. These kind of innately have negative synergy - if people are paying more for spells, they're less likely to be able to cast multiple spells in the first place, meaning the Canonist's ability is wasted. You should consider going for one type of effect or the other, not both. (I wouldn't run either symmetrically in mono-white, personally).
Council's Judgment can probably be cut - you have great enough removal without running it.
kataki definitely needs to go with how many artifacts you're running.
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