Creature — Human Shaman
: Thermo-Alchemist deals 1 damage to each opponent
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, untap Thermo-Alchemist
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|Ultimate Masters (UMA)||Common|
|Eldritch Moon (EMN)||Common|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Thermo-Alchemist occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%
1 month ago
1 month ago
Thats a tough choice considering you can start dealing damage turn 3 with Thermo-Alchemist versus turn 4 with Cinder Pyromancer. Maybe two of each? I'm not an expert deck-builder my any means, but it might give you more versatility. Or possibly 3 of one and 2 of the other if you want to make the deck more about spell-slinging?
1 month ago
Oh, ok. I misunderstood. Sorry.
Capsize is probably the most popular combo payoff.
Thermo-Alchemist and Firebrand Archer are good outs. They don't even use the mana you generate. These work really well if you're using Cloud of Faeries as an alternative Drake. If you can get two lands that produce three mana, like an Izzet Boilerworks and an island, you won't gain any mana with each iteration of the faeries combo, but you'll generate damage with the Alchemist and/or Archer.
If you've got two of the "return a spell from the graveyard" creatures, you can close out the game with a lightning bolt or any burn spell that hits faces, like you suggested. First you flicker the Drake and one "return spell" creature until you have enough mana, then you start flickering both "return spell" creatures to get back the bolt and flicker each time.
Black has a couple creatures that mill on EtB, like Sibsig Host. If you've got the flicker combo online and no one forces you to draw at instant speed, those can close a game.
This is just what I'm thinking off the top of my head. I'm sure there are a lot of others, I'm just not very familiar with them - I don't really use them, and I also don't often play against people who use them, I just kind of peripherally know they exist.
I am on the PDH Homebase Discord Server, though, which contains a lot of folks who are much more knowledgeable about infinite combos than I. If you remain curious about it, you should join us: https://discord.gg/fNVdYx
1 month ago
I have to agree somewhat, card draw is necessary for a red deck to survive. I’m not sure if Browbeat is pioneer but if it is I would recommend using it. Best case scenario you draw three cards, worst case scenario, opponent takes 5 damage. Risk Factor is 100% legal in pioneer as far as I can tell, so I would run a full playset of that as well. Also I think Thermo-Alchemist isn’t the best choice here for a pinger. I would swap that out for Cinder Pyromancer again if he isn’t pioneer legal then I do apologize. But he is the better choice in my humble opinion
2 months ago
if you are moving in the burn direction, there are creatures that definitely play into that.
To play off of the reduced damage... Hundred-Handed One literally, blocking everyone.
other stuff Deflecting Palm...I think, since you control Gisela's ability, you control when it hits the stack. Which means, if you use deflecting palm and have it hit the stack after Gisela's ability (so it resolves first) it will cancel the full damage.
example: a source is going to do 5 damage: 5 damage on the stack, Gisela's ability on the stack, deflecting palm on the stack. deflecting palm resolves first canceling the 5 damage, that 5 damage will be dealt to controller, Gisela's ability stacks. It is now 10 damage.
If it stacked differently, as damage, deflecting palm, Gisela; Gisela's ability resolved first, the damage deflecting palm would counter would be 2, then the total damage would be only 4.
And if this all isn't nasty enough...how about making yourself hexproof? Leyline of Sanctity
2 months ago
Trashcan: Sort of. Gratuitous Violence is definitely worth it, since it only doubles my creatures' damage and not everyone's. The various plinkers like Thermo-Alchemist and Lobber Crew now hit all opponents for 2 dmg per activation, and if Klothys gets devotion then her triggered ability hits all opponents for 4 each turn. Plus, Gratuitous Violence + Klothys puts devotion to 5, so I only need 2 more pips to turn Klothys into a creature and benefit from that damage doubler.
Dictate of the Twin Gods isn't so bad thanks to flash. You can flash it in on the endstep before your turn if you are properly set up to capitalize on it before anyone else get the benefit of doubling their damage. For example, in a game I played recently I was able to flash in Dictate before my turn, then on my turn I activated Klothys for 4 dmg, tapped Thermo-Alchemist for 2 dmg, cast Flame Rift for 8 dmg and untapped Thermo-Alchemist, tapped Thermo-Alchemist for another 2 dmg, cast Slagstorm for 6 dmg to players and untapped Thermo-Alchemist, then tapped Thermo-Alchemist again for 2 more damage. In that turn, I took a total of 12 dmg (14 between Flame Rift and Slagstorm, but +2 life from Klothys) while my opponents took a total of 24 dmg. I did manage to knock one player out entirely, and put the other two players into single digit life totals.
The other nice thing about Dictate of the Twin Gods is that I can flash it in as a combat trick on someone else's turn. There are a couple of Voltron decks in my playgroup, and one person has a Feather, the Redeemed deck that can put out a stupid amount of commander damage. If I flash in Dictate during a Voltron player's combat step, then they can potentially knock another opponent out of the game for me by doubling up the commander damage. By virtue of being an instant-speed interaction thanks to Flash, Dictate actually has quite a few good uses in this deck.
I admit that Furnace of Rath isn't terribly great in this deck, but doubling all the damage output makes all of the other spells and effects so much more efficient, and it does wonders for speeding up overall gameplay. As I said in the description, I built this deck with a personal "win-con" in mind, and that isn't to win the game. Ideally, my goal is to be able to deal at least 25 damage to each opponent over the course of the game, whether I win or lose. This deck seeks to punish everyone and almost become an Archenemy of sorts. The handful of games I have played with it so far I have only failed that personal goal once, and even then I was able to deal about 22 dmg to everyone before I got knocked out.
Are there better ways to build a Klothys, God of Destiny deck? Probably. Are there more fun ways to build one? Not for me.
2 months ago
Risk Factor is not good in combo-kill decks. Your opponent will always choose the damage option as their life total don't matter since you're confined through winning by combo.
Remove Truefire Captain and Gideon's Sacrifice. Lethal combos should not take 4 or more cards to win the game with. The less cards you need to win with the more likelier you'll be able to pull off the combo. A better combo than Truefire would be Boros Reckoner, Irencrag Feat, Star of Extinction. (You don't even need indestructible and you could win as early as turn 4.)
In order to consistently pull off your combos you also need draw power. White and Red are not suited to drawing cards which is this deck's biggest weakness. Instead you should make it so this deck wins by dealing damage over time and it uses your main combo as a plan B if that fails. I suggest running cards that just fit well around Boros Reckoner and Jaya, Venerated Firemage.
Feather is a good evasive body that can get some damage across. Pair that with Sheltering Light as you'll be able to scry multiple times and be able to protect Boros Reckoner from removal spells without losing your indestructible spell. Reckless Rage can also be spammed on repeat with Feather, but it also works well with Boros Reckoner as you can ping him with it to remove two of your opponent's creatures at once.
Thermo-Alchemist and Spear Spewer are great early game pinging creatures, but with Jaya, Venerated Firemage you can double their damage output and they make greater blockers to protect Jaya with. Hanweir Garrison also generates crazy value with Jaya as she doubles the power of the tokens you'll be able to flood the board with and the tokens can double as chump blockers if needed.