Izzet Boilerworks enters the battlefield tapped.
When Izzet Boilerworks enters the battlefield, return a land you control to its owner's hand.
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Izzet Boilerworks Discussion
1 month ago
I actually think those are great ideas. While I might not add those specific two lands you mentioned, you made me remember Izzet Boilerworks and Dimir Aqueduct which allow me to reuse the scry from the temple, the exile from Bojuka Bog, get more energy from Aether Hub and both should be a bit cheaper than Shivan Reef.
I probably won't be pivoting to but I'll make sure to include a specific section in this primer about a sultai variant. Ayula's Influence isn't as fast as Infestaion, nor as splasable, but has some other neat jank tech.
It probably didn't function very well because this deck has never been anything other than a meme. Though the Seismic Swans version actually has a few top8s.
Thanks for the suggestion!
2 months ago
Cards like Evolving Wilds , Izzet Boilerworks , Guildless Commons and Naya Panorama would double up on land drops or at least let a land be put back into hand to be used again. Firewild Borderpost , Meloku the Clouded Mirror
4 months ago
Hey, well done so far on a budget. What's Troll 2?
Are you upgrading the Kalamax Commander precon? Or are you building from singles? I ask because I can't tell and there's several good budget cards in the precon to consider adding.
- Arcane Signet
- Chaos Warp : instant remove any permanent.
- Kessig Wolf Run : repeatable source of trample for Kalamax that Crop Rotation can tutor for.
- Exotic Orchard
- Yavimaya Coast
- Shivan Reef
- Cinder Glade
- Izzet Boilerworks
- Simic Growth Chamber
- Gruul Turf
Even if you didn't get the precon all these cards would be upgrades especially the lands.
Some other budget cards to consider:
- Reiterate : Fork for Kalamax with buyback.
- Commander's Insight
- Roiling Regrowth : like Harrow , but basic lands you get ETB tapped.
A more expensive price card to consider is Narset's Reversal . It has great interaction with Kalamax because he makes it a repeatable effect to copy any instant or sorcery an opponent casts. The copy of Reversal that Kalamax makes targets the original Reversal which then sends the original Reversal back to your hand and you resolve a copy of opponent's spell.
Reversal is nice to keep triggering magecraft especially Storm-Kiln Artist since with Kalamax Artist creates two treasures just by casting Reversal and it's returned to your hand. Use those two treasures to then cast Reversal on the next player's turn and repeat each turn an opponent casts an instant or sorcery.
You can do other neat tricks with Narset's Reversal and Kalamax.
- Twinning Staff makes an infinite copy spell combo which equals infinite +1/+1 counters on Kalamax as well as infinite magecraft triggers.
- Can use Reversal on your own sorceries to return Reversal and the sorcery back to your hand to cast again and resolve a copy of the sorcery.
Good luck with your deck.
8 months ago
Thought Reflection - Rhystic Study
Etherium-Horn Sorcerer - Runaway Steam-Kin
(most the cards in this deck would be a wiff on cascade trigger)
Swarm Intelligence - Echo of Eons
(swarm is a cool card but cmc way to high, echo will give you a way to reset your deck, also protection from mil)
Izzet Boilerworks - Runic Repetition
(to many lands / deck doesn't utilize bounce, runic will combo with Mystic Retrieval to loop any spell in the deck)
Thousand-Year Storm - Mindmoil
(storm is cool but once you start looping it will just cause you to loose focus and likely miss play, moil works with the current synergy your using)
Swiftwater Cliffs - Primal Amulet Flip
8 months ago
Hey, having more low CMC Pirates who have the better evasion (flying or unblockable) can help to do combat damage to opponents to trigger Malcolm and Breeches.
- Spectral Sailor: mana sink for treasures to draw cards.
- Departed Deckhand: mana sink for treasures to make Pirates unblockable.
- Siren Stormtamer
- Warkite Marauder
Lightning-Rig Crew has great interaction with Malcolm to create treasures and Breeches to exile your opponents cards. Since Rig does damage to each opponent you create a number of treasures equal to the number of opponents you have or exile a card from each opponents library.
Sol Ring is a staple mana rock in Commander that can go in every deck you make. Having more repeatable draw is helpful in Commander and when one of your Commanders has flying then cards that let you draw when you do combat damage to an opponent are consistent options:
- Tandem Lookout: soulbond can change who it's paired with. Pair to Lightning-Rig Crew to draw a lot of cards since damage that is done by the paired creature doesn't have to be combat damage.
- Reconnaissance Mission
- Mask of Memory
Some budget lands to consider adding:
- Path of Ancestry
- Rogue's Passage
- Unclaimed Territory
- Ash Barrens
- Izzet Boilerworks
- Temple of Epiphany
- Opal Palace
Total at TCG Player: $9.86, see list
If this upgrade interests you then I offer more advice of what cards to consider cutting.
Good luck with your deck.
8 months ago
At Nava's request i'm posting suggested changes, additions, cuts, and my thoughts on them. She requested that I not stick to only budget, but keep the max single card value under $30 (I kept it under $20 for the most part and largely even lower than that). As such, here are my thoughts and recommendations.
Courser of Kruphix- Ramp, pulls cards off the top of your deck so you are more likely to draw useful cards and just directly drop your lands onto the battlefield
Living Lightning- a useful elemental that allows you to recast your instants/sorceries
Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar- A very powerful card that also allows you to bounce your lands so you can replay them for more effects
Nyxbloom Ancient- Triple mana on an elemental.
Overgrowth Elemental- A useful elemental that pumps your creatures and gains you life.
Ramunap Excavator- Replay your sacrificed and destroyed lands. Fantastic in a lands deck. Omnath feeds on lands, and the more you drop the more cards you can draw and counters you can give out.
Roil Elemental- A fantastic landfall ability that allows you to grab key pieces from your opponents and use them against each other
Seedborn Muse take full advantage of your lands and abilities without worrying about being tapped out
Titania, Protector of Argoth- land recursion, elemental generation.
World Shaper- land recursion
Birds of Paradise- One of the best dorks in the game
Sylvan Caryatid- Fantastic dork
Brighthearth Banneret- You are a lands deck. You have more than enough mana and this simply doesn't do enough for you.
Chandra's Embercat- This will be a recurring comment from me. You are a lands deck with plenty of ways to ramp. This is a very limited card that costs too much and doesn't do enough for you. You are a lands deck. Increase the number of ways you can pull lands out of your deck to further your decks goals and increase the chances of drawing a non-land card that will help you more.
Embodiment of Insight- Too expensive for the effect. Also, personally I don't like turning lands into creatures as it makes them incredibly vulnerable without giving enough benefit.
Embodiment of Spring- Too expensive and not nearly good enough.
Generator Servant- The haste isn't important enough for your creatures as you very rarely have anything massive enough or has a useful enough tap effect that is being cast from your hand to require it. Furthermore, you are a lands deck with plenty of ways to ramp. This is a very limited card that costs too much and doesn't do enough for you. You are a lands deck. Increase the number of ways you can pull lands out of your deck to further your decks goals and increase the chances of drawing a non-land card that will help you more.
Grove Rumbler- This card is terrible. Four for a 3/3 trample that has an effect that will pump it slightly for one turn. This is awful. It feels like this card was only put in due to it being an elemental.
Lavakin Brawler- Rarely do you ever have enough elementals out for this to be worthwhile. Not that it's terrible, but there are so many better cards that can be put in its place.
Parcelbeast- Doesn't get enough value to justify the slot
Smokebraider- You are a lands deck with plenty of ways to ramp. This is a very limited card that costs too much and doesn't do enough for you. You are a lands deck. Increase the number of ways you can pull lands out of your deck to further your decks goals and increase the chances of drawing a non-land card that will help you more.
Tireless Tracker- This has nothing to do with your deck and you're better off finding other draw engines
Surrak Dragonclaw- No synergy with the deck and not nearly good enough to justify the high mana cost.
Field of the Dead
Bring your land count to 38 or so
Coral Atoll- This is terrible. I know you're going for the bounce effect, but this is far worse for several reasons. Firstly, it only gives you blue mana as opposed to multicolored. Secondly, it requires specifically an island to be returned as opposed to any land that you can then take advantage of. And thirdly, it requires the land to be untapped which means that not only does it come in tapped, but it requires an untapped island which means you can't even use that land and then return it for value. This is awful. I don't love the bounce lands either, but I understand what you're going for and their value. This has neither.
Lumbering Falls, Raging Ravine, Wandering Fumarole- These man lands are in here entirely because they can become elementals, but really aren't worth running. They are come in tapped, cannot be fetched, and cost 4 mana to turn into a creature, largely negating any benefit. They're really bad and I highly recommend cutting them for more basics.
Unclaimed Territory- Not really worth the value. It's colorless more often than not and another basic land will give you more value than that more often.
Mana Vault- Nava already owns a copy of this in her Nekusar deck, so it can be added here without issue.
Strionic Resonator- Copy all of your ETB triggers, as well as any other triggered abilities. Fantastic
Chaos Warp- Removal on your own pieces or an opponents. Bypasses indestructible and often is allowed through without being counterspelled due to the fact that it's usually replacing a piece that people agree is a fair target rather than outright destroying or removing without replacing. A fantastic card overall
Constant Mists- Great protection when you need it, plus it can be bought back if needed. Lands can be recovered through multiple means.
Disallow- A must have for counterspells. It covers all possible basis and is fantastic.
Heroic Intervention- Hexproof and indestructible at instant speed for 2. Amazing.
Krosan Grip- Split second artifact/enchantment destruction. Among the best removal for them there is.
Force of Vigor- Free artifact/enchantment removal with multiple targets.
Swan Song- 1 drop counterspell that hits everything but creatures. A great counterspell to have on hand.
Counterspell- There are better cards to replace this with that are still very cheap/budget and are overall better
Growth Spiral- A decent card but we can do better given the range of cards available in commander
Inspiring Call- See Growth Spiral
Return to Nature- There are so many better versions of this for an equal if not lesser cost. Or, for one more there are better cards which I will be recommending.
Struggle / Survive- Too limited, not enough value, not powerful enough.
Tale's End- This is just a bad version of disallow that very rarely gets any value.
Withstand Death- This is a bad version of other similar cards.
Wrap in Vigor- Very rarely do mass destruction effects happen, and when they do the usually say "cannot be regenerated". This seems really good but i've never really seen it get any value and will typically be a dead card most of the time.
Genesis Wave- Drop all the permanents (lands included) that you can afford.
Life from the Loam- pull lands from your graveyard and keep your engine going without running out. Omnath feeds on lands, and the more you drop the more cards you can draw and counters you can give out.
Nature's Lore, Three Visits- Pull forests (basic and non-basic that are forests) from your deck. Very helpful at any time.
Scapeshift- Grab all the lands you want, plus trigger your landfall and other such triggers
Splendid Reclamation- Pull all the lands from your graveyard. Nuff said.
Tempt with Discovery- If one person takes it then it's a better Explosive Vegetation. If more then it's an amazing card, but even if no one else does you get to pick your land and in a lands deck you will get more value.
Windfall- Refills your hand, interferes with opponent's plans, dumps lands in graveyard for later use.
Ground Assault- very limited and not worth running. There are better cards with similar if not stronger effects available to you
Hull Breach- There are better cards with similar if not stronger effects available to you
Quasiduplicate- no real apparent benefit to this over other cards that can more directly further your end goal.
Sylvan Awakening- I don't recommend turning your lands into creatures, especially enmass. It's just asking for all your lands to be mass removed. Very dangerous and will rarely get the payoff you need. Limited and will be a dead card in hand except in very specific scenarios.
Burgeoning- land Acceleration
Trade Routes- Bounce lands for more triggers and value, and in a pinch you can pitch them for more cards. Mana swamped becomes a thing of the past.
Exploration- Land acceleration
Domri, Anarch of Bolas- It seems like the main reason this is being run is for the +1 ability, which is really not worth running a card like this for. Not enough value.
Nissa, Steward of Elements- Without a large number of counters on her she gets minimal value, and if you do pay enough mana to make her viable there are already better cards you can run for those costs.
Eternal Witness- Unless you find your creatures or important cards dead often, or have a real way to take advantage of the cards in your graveyard, this is unnecessary and doesn't do enough for the deck.
Fertilid- A decent card but i've never found it gets enough value for the cost. it's a minimum of 5 mana for 1 basic land. You need to do this at least 3 or 4 times to really get enough value to be worth running over a land fetch.
Leafkin Druid- This is okay as a dork and an elemental, but I've found with tribal decks that you are better off running other creature and card types that better fuel your deck as a whole and really allow the tribe to shine, rather than forcing the tribe everywhere.
Tectonic Giant- Not good enough.
Animar, Soul of Elements- Unnecessary.
Zendikar Resurgent- Largely unnecessary due to the high number of lands in the deck, but can be kept if you feel it worthwhile
Frontier Bivouac- decent but comes in tapped and cannot be fetched. In a lands deck you will rarely be hurting for colors and the fact that this comes in tapped slows you down.
Simic Growth Chamber, Izzet Boilerworks, Gruul Turf- While I see what you are going for with these, they overall do slow you down and you have enough lands (once you bump up to 38 or so) that you shouldn't have any issue with them. I'd swamp these for basics as you have far more ways to grab those.
8 months ago
Still a bit of a rough list, so difficult to make specific card recs but though I would share some experience. I bought the pre-built deck when it came out, and recently did an entire break-down and rebuilt.
Looks like you've got a focus around the proliferate synergies, so I would build around that as a start. The trouble I had was that there are so many (too many) possible combos you can use, and a few different strategies. I've never specifically seen proliferate (X, Wheel, Turns, Wizards) or what I play Storm (without really using storm cards).
Creatures don't build experience counters, so I would be strategic with the purpose of a creature. Ones with limited payoff like Thermo-Alchemist/Guttersnipe (what are you repeatedly casting to win with them, usually in Mizz is infinite mana which leverages a draw library or X spell payoff) or high cost Charmbreaker Devils/Melek, Izzet Paragon will hurt when drawn unless your utilizing for a specific purpose.
Aetherflux Reservoir is the right type of card, but it's tough to get in Izzet (). Whir of Invention/Intuition/Reshape/Etc. I found that if your building your storm count (it's usually drawing library or mana) so it's unnecessary. Similar finishers like Sphinx-Bone Wand have the same challenge, would prefer a Fall of the Titans or a Enter the Infinite in most cases. Ral, Storm Conduit has better payoff with similar function.
Your going to be quite slow with so many tapped lands, plus you have many turn 1 draw payoffs in blue (cantrips), so having T1/T2 mana up is key. Izzet Boilerworks can make infinite mana pretty easily, but outside of that see where you can trim. I'm not sure you need to many Cycling lands either, in Mizz, you generally want to play your lands, the tradeoff will be that early in the game your mana is coming in tapped, but later in the game you can cycle away bad land draws. If your going for mid-range over combo, you'll likely need much more removal/counter/sweepers, if your just want cast large spells, maybe Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge would be a better commander selection for the added tutors. Lands really to break the budget though, I understand, Steam Vents will be critical though, and Fiery Islet is ok priced still.
I like the Flux Channeler I've considered him so many times, because he can build your Experience so Mizzix of the Izmagnus can stay protected in the command zone, and have immediate impact (when played unprotected).
You have Bonus Round, could build some interaction with it, like Seething Song + Reiterate or Frantic Search + Narset's Reversal or Dramatic Reversal + Narset's Reversal, etc. Not sure if you've ever used Commander Spellbook but just enter Bonus Round, and click the , , to filter the list.
Not sure what the Sideboard cards are, using as a intermediary cut list?
I also playtested the Curious Homunculus Flip/Goblin Electromancer types, Baral, Chief of Compliance was good, I would avoid the others, most of the time, I would prefer them to be spells to build the Experience count while providing an ability as well (like draw).
I assume Trinket Mage/etc. are pulling in the mana rocks, but they are only useful if your at a mana/experience level to activate. Trophy Mage for Twinning Staff? Needs a Dramatic Reversal in that case.
Jace's Sanctum doesn't build experience count, it's high CMC for the same ability, I would avoid this type of ability at this cost.
Your 405 Avg CMC is pretty high, you'll have similar challenges that other mid-range has is some games your going to draw hands of cards you'll never be able to play, again depends on your playgroups, but you may find some games it feels like you "do nothing" before the game closes out. I would cut some high CMC cards, bring that down at least below CMC 3, utilize the high CMC cards for win, and try and make then instant/sorcery where you can to get the experience benefit.
I would pick a couple win cons like Bonus Round or Enter the Infinite or Beacon of Tomorrows of something more classic like a Fall of the Titans or Stroke of Genius and build a core around them, that will help you solidify a good 70 card core, then add your mana accelerators and cantrips around them, and bet your at 80 cards and might help make some cuts easy.
Feel free to comment me back, happy to look again once it's paired a bit, or assist with honing in if you have a clear Game-Winning vision that you want to go with?
Good start. +1.
9 months ago
I'm not trying to win with infinites because it's really a side wincon. The main goal is too thro rocks and if that doesn't work then I have side win cons. thank you for the suggestions it really dos help :D there is also an infinite that doesn't win on the spot it just makes infinite rocks. Toggo, Goblin Weaponsmith + Kodama of the East Tree+ any of these -> Gruul Turf / Izzet Boilerworks / Simic Growth Chamber