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Izzet Boilerworks enters the battlefield tapped.
When Izzet Boilerworks enters the battlefield, return a land you control to its owner's hand.
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Izzet Boilerworks Discussion
5 days ago
In doing so thought I'd mention a few things, see if anything is helpful, probably not,
Fabricate can pull the Isochron Scepter for your Isochron Scepter + Dramatic Reversal (or the Mana Crypt/Sol Ring that is needed to enable the combo?). I know you have Muddle the Mixture to tutor these, but you could Muddle the Mixture the Dramatic Reversal and Fabricate the Isochron Scepter as an additional tool. Worst case you Fabricate a Mana Crypt for net mana.
Personal Tutor can pull a Fabricate to top of deck, or if you have Temporal Mastery it can pull that to the top to Miracle for (Personal Tutor) + Temporal Mastery miracle to get the extra turn. You don't actually miss a draw, because you still draw on the extra turn you wouldn't have had anyway (technically). Also I find even if Temporal Mastery is in my hand, Brainstorm can make it favorable, or just wheel it away (not super effective), but you may even cast it for CMC7 in odd cases. Think Twice can Miracle it on opponents turns too, that would be fun.
You could run Show and Tell + Omniscience + Enter the Infinite, I think Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind would trigger? (but not sure), but your already tutoring enchantments which is very difficult. I know it sucks (no card advantage), but Gamble is a way to tutor a Curiosity and go for the win early. I think Gamble is a necessary evil here due to the difficulty of tutoring enchantments. You could also run Laboratory Maniac to win, even when you Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind + Curiosity maybe you need it to overcome a Trostani, Selesnya's Voice that's gained 60 life or something, just as an alternative to the draw/damage, once your out of cards in your library, no more way to output damage. Beacon of Tomorrows can also save you here too.
Faithless Looting can help with the cycling of the cards too for . Trinket Mage could tutor a Mana Crypt or Sol Ring for or you could add Great Furnace / Seat of the Synod and tutor a land, since Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind is CMC6, ramping spells never hurt.
Lightning Greaves can Haste enable him so he doesn't have to survive, although you have the Counterspell if you don't have a Pact of Negation or a Force of Will handy can protect him, especially in a 4-player pod where you can't Gitaxian Probe everyone. With so few creatures, I get why it's out.
I use Turnabout + Nivix Guildmage to Infinite mana, they can also be used with Frantic Search + Izzet Boilerworks + Nivix Guildmage to Tutor Curiosity or Ophidian Eye or Mind Over Matter. I really over-utilize Nivix Guildmage so probably not right here, but thought I'd mention as it is a tutor to your combos.
Scalding Tarn and Cascade Bluffs would be good land upgrades, you have other fetches so probably didn't need to say this, but Ash Barrens also good because if you need a color it can landcycle and filter out a land, if you dont need it, it comes in untapped and doesn't slow progression down at all.
Anyways, like I mentioned, not a Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind player, but I know how Tutoring really flattens out the consistency on a combo deck, especially one where you have no direct tutors (Gamble) to get the Enchantments to your hand, so some Janky ones might be of interest.
PS: some evaluations,
Magmatic Insight feels wrong, I like the draw, but sacrificing a land with a CMC6 commander still feels wrong? Plus if you draw it later in the game, it could be a dead draw until you draw a land.
Thought Scour is a pod-specific card? I don,t see much graveyard recursion here, so I assume your pod is top-deck tutoring that you need a response too? Or maybe just looking for as many Cantips as possible? Maybe Whispers of the Muse if you have the infinite mana going, gives you the infinite draw too.
Flusterstorm feels like a dead draw sometimes, especially against . If it's in your opening draw, it probably great, outside of that it's going to be less effective (but not always).
2 months ago
Why are you running Izzet Boilerworks? A deck that has ABURs in it should not be running ravnica bounce lands.
2 months ago
Seems to be a really fun, low budget Nekusar, the Mindrazer deck.I'd suggest removing Izzet Boilerworks, Rakdos Carnarium and Rupture Spire, since those, in certain situations could screw you up, and instead add a Temple of Epiphany(to complete scrylands cycle), Sulfurous Springs(to complete painlands cycle). For a further upgrade there consider Mikokoro, Center of the Sea.
I like the instant speed Tainted Strike that could kill some unwilling opponent, great pesky move.On the other hand I'd probably remove Glistening Oil, since it really doesn't have a specific use in this deck.
Since you are going about this on a budget, I'd suggest really fun cars that combo with Nekusar like:
Soulquake(Mass bounce + your foes will probably discard most of their graveyard in terms of card amount... just be sure that this move doesn't allow them to come back);
Guiltfeeder(Since it has fear, if it swings on an opponent that can't block it, it could deal lethal damage. Absolutely reliable win condition);
Dragon Mage(Though it has to connect);
Day's Undoing(You need to play around the fact that it ends your turn);
Wheel of Fate(Nothing to say, simply great);
Wheel and Deal(Wheel of fortune just the opponents you choose);
Raiders' Wake(Great synergy);
2 months ago
P.s. thought about what to say for about 5 minuets and the best I could come up with was both grammatically incorrect and dumb.
2 months ago
As I see it, Blood Sun's static ability can't affect lands before they come into play, which would mean that a land that "enters the battlefield tapped" will still do that, while any triggered etb ability that a land may have is disregarded.This seems intuitive to me, but I hear other people saying otherwise. If I'm wrong, I'd be happy if someone explained to me [i]exactly[/i] why.
To make it clear: What happens when Blood sun is in play and I play a bounceland, like Izzet Boilerworks?
Does it enter tapped? (I think yes)
Does it return a land? (I think no)
3 months ago
My suggestions: Cut Deprive, Nimble Obstructionist, Cryptic Serpent, and Noxious Revival and move Echoing Truth to your sideboard. All these cards are just too slow or too ineffective for what you want to be doing. I think Izzet Boilerworks is far too slow for this type of deck and should be either basics or ideally some Spirebluff Canal or Steam Vents. Some inclusions you should look into are the 4th Serum Visions, maybe Young Pyromancer, and maybe some Spell Snare or Mutagenic Growth depending on what your metagame looks like
3 months ago
Alright! Hi! Since this is your first EDH deck I'll start with a lot of basic/staple things to get you up to speed :)
First, welcome to the best magic format! If you haven't already, check out the rules website here.
Back? Alright! We need to get you up to 100 cards my friend! Let's start with your lands.
For any average EDH deck, you need 35-38 lands. This depends on a great many things(like curve, strategy, ramp, card draw, ect) but something in that range is what you should shoot for.
Going all basics is very risky because there's no guarantee you can get all three colors on turn 4. It's also hard to cast stuff with double or triple colors in their mana costs. So here are a bunch of $5 and under suggestions to get you up to ~37 lands. I like to do things in cycles, so I have the same amount of each color available.
Extra mana: Temple of the False God
So those are all a bunch of relatively budget options you can use. I usually keep all of those the same and change the number of each basic land to match the color ratio of the deck.
Next I want to talk about ramp. Any EDH deck should have about 8-10. You don't have green so most of it will be artifact ramp. Your commander has a CMC of 4 so it's important to use 2 cost artifact ramp to get her out on turn 3.
Sol Ring goes in pretty much every EDH deck. If you think you'll be playing EDH for a while I'd buy at least 5 haha
That'll give you a solid playable mana base, whith with you can do anything with the rest of the deck and still play normally. You could even change commanders if you want!
For the rest, I'll turn to the pros: This is the Command Zone Episode 151 where they talk about their template and how much ramp, lands, board wipes, spot removal, card draw, creatures, etc etc etc you should have in your average deck. Definitely watch it all but here's a summery I found in the comments:
Mana Ramp - 10Card Draw - 10Single Target Removal - 5Board Wipes - 5
Standalone - a card that works on it's own or in concert with your commander. (25)Enhancer - a card that either amplifies or is amplified by your commander, standalone cards or other enhancers. (10-12)Enabler - a card that covers a weakness or a fills a gap in your strategy. (7-8)
Then head over to EDHREC and pick out cards that interest you!
One last peice of advice, don't go and buy all this shit yet. Wait a while, craft the deck, continue getting advice on it, then buy the cards you know you want. Don't be like me and but 200 cards for a 100 card deck haha
3 months ago
Looking at it, you may want to add in a little more support for blue. It would not hurt to power the blue a little more with cards like Swiftwater Cliffs, Highland Lake or Izzet Boilerworks. It would certainly open up more options for defending an enchantment from being Cancelled or Negated when running against blue as you could add in your own counters, and it can also save your strategy from being boardwiped by cards like Merciless Eviction and others. In addition to adding protection to your enchantment that is crucial to your strategy, it can open up new avenues of hurt in the form of cards that bounce attackers that can be used in to take out your Krenko, Mob Boss by using Prey Upon, Rabid Bite or Pounce. The overall concept is an awesome strategy and I'll probably build myself a deck to spam infinte goblins, but in going mono red and relying on two evolving wilds and a good draw to kick off your combo, you're leaving yourself open on a lot of fronts and for a lot of things to go wrong.