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Destroy target artifact you don't control.
Overload (You may cast this spell for its overload cost. If you do, change the text by replacing all instances of "target" with "each.")
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4 hours ago
This isn't super sorted, but I tried to keep similar effects together, sorted by cost as well.
General Tip - Since Narset can only cast things whenever they could be cast, instants are a big advantage
About Wraths - You won't want to cast them with Narset out, but it's better than dying(probably get 4-6)
Things to cut:
any equipment - equipment is okay, but since you don't get the equip cost for free you want to focus on low equip costs, or things that protect narset
about aura's - normally they're just card disadvantage but narset probably offsets that
bounce lands - (like Boros Garrison) are usually a little awkward and slow, in three colors you're better off with basics
Aether Gale - tricky since it needs six targets and that won't always be possible
Sea God's Revenge - bounce that only targets creatures usually isn't worth it in EDH, probably better to have hard removal
Breath of Fury - while decent if you have the creatures (and you have some token generation) it's probably not consistent enough, just run sorcs that give extra combats
Dissipation Field - often gives too much value to opponents, maybe even being a lure (lightmine field might be a decent replacement)
Dismiss Into Dreams - you're not targeting that often, and if you are it should be removal anyways
Assemble the Legion - Seems to slow to be effective
Throne of the God-Pharaoh - Need to go wide for this to be really effective
_cheap$$(around or less than a dollar): _
Swords to Plowshares(removal) - excellent creature removal, cheap if you happen to draw it
Crib Swap(removal) - still exiles a creature outright, but 3cmc
Banishing Stroke (removal, tuck, utility) - expensive hard cast without narset/miracle but tucking is often better than destroying(worse than exiling)
Relentless Assault(extra combats) - Extra attack steps with Narset is dumb, do it
Fury of the Horde(extra combats) - extra attack steps (they're the best)
Boros Charm(protection, burn) - versatile, keeps narset alive
Return to Dust(utility removal) - Exiling artifacts and enchantments is better than not
Vandalblast(Mass artifact removal) - not an exciting card, but taking out only opponents artifacts cripples some decks
Sunforger(tutor/equipment) - only good if you have enough cards it can search for, is mana intensive but if you have enough cards it can fetch it'll be worth it
Lightmine Field(pillowfort/defense) - Narset can attack through it, and keeps token swarms off your back
Crawlspace(pillowfort/defense) - Against, stops large swarms, still you'll probably get hit by the two biggest creatures
Counterflux(counterspell) - strong counterspell, wins counter wars
Render Silent(counterspell) - Makes people sad, locks them out of whole turns
Insidious Will(counterspell, spell copy) - versatile, let's you copy stronger effects from narset as well
Reverberate(spell copy) - often is what you need it to be, can be a counterspell or raw value, great for piggybacking on green ramp
Wild Ricochet(spell copy) - copy a spell, twice!
Spelltwine(spell copy, recursion) - recursion is great since you're putting so much stuff in your graveyard
Call to Mind (recursion) - you have spells, may as well re-use the best ones
Mystic Retrieval (recursion) - same but with flashback!
Mirari(spell copying) - copying any instant or sorcery for three is a pretty good deal if you don't have to pay for the spell already
Clone Legion(wincon) - With how many etb creatures people run, this can be a game ender, or enough raw value to put you ahead
Blatant Thievery(card advantage, removal) - stealing things makes people mad, but it's very effective
Journeyer's Kite(ramp) - slower than rocks, but more reliable, a slow and steady way to get mana
Brass's Bounty(ramp) - only good if you need a lot of mana one time
Chain Reaction(mass removal) - board dependent, and kills narset, sometimes you need more wraths
Day of Judgment(mass removal) - very strong
Final Judgment(mass removal) - against some decks destroying all creatures isn't enough, exiling is
_LANDS(can be boring, but are often a big part of how your deck performs): _
Command Tower - Must have in three colors
Mystic Monastery - Tapped lands aren't great, tri-color tap lands in your color are
Rogue's Passage(unblockable) - Being colorless is bad, being unblockable is good
not so cheap$$(around three or more dollars):
Path to Exile(removal) - a second StP, not all decks need it, but it is strong
Darksteel Plate(protection) - keeps your commander safer, isn't super powerful, cheap equip
Rite of Replication(wincon, value) - You still have to pay the kicker but this card is incredible
Waves of Aggression(extra combats) - take extra combats, plus you can play it from the graveyard
Wrath of God(mass removal) - it's the best, but day of judgment is as good 99% of the time
Austere Command(mass removal) - hit's only what you need it to hit, can ignore narset if necessary
Cyclonic Rift(mass removal) - one sided, but you have to pay for the kicker with narset, still can steal games
Blasphemous Act(mass removal) - often one mana
6 days ago
I love dragon decks.
I think you can drop the curses here. Early turns are best spent ramping or playing set-up cards for your dragons. Maybe add a Thran Dynamo, Mana Vault, and, say, a Rattleclaw Mystic or other dork instead. Chromatic Lantern should also be in this deck one day. Maybe a Thought Vessel and a Darksteel Ingot if Dynamo and Vault are hard to find.
You also need to fix your mana. If you look at the wheel at the top right of this page, you'll see that your costs and available sources are out of balance. You want the inner pie to match the outer border so that your are more likely to draw the mana you need to cast the spells you are also most likely to draw (by color). If you can drop 3-4 W sources and add 4 R sources (by my estimate), you'll be in better shape. Don't be afraid to run basics.
Here are some of my favorite cards to play in dragon decks that aren't yet in this list (including everything from budget to pricey):
- Kindred Summons (much stronger here than Kindred Discovery)
- Temur Ascendancy (nice complement to elemental bond)
- Steely Resolve (faster than Asceticism)
- Genesis Wave (stupid good here)
- Sarkhan Unbroken (value)
- Descendants' Path
- Pattern of Rebirth
- Defense of the Heart
- Wild Pair
- Survival of the Fittest
- Sunbird's Invocation
- As Foretold
- Tooth and Nail
- Xenagos, God of Revels
- Chaos Warp
- Cyclonic Rift
- Sarkhan's Triumph
- Vanquisher's Banner
- Zirilan of the Claw
- Rimescale Dragon + snow-covered basics
- Dragonmaster Outcast
- Scourge of the Throne
- Dragon Mage
- Balefire Dragon
The big idea is to tune everything so you have, say, 4-6 broad answers like Chaos Warp, Comeuppance, Cyclonic Rift, and Vandalblast, a decent number of high-impact dragons (say, 20 or so), some support creatures, and then a bunch of enchantments and other spells that support cheating as many dragons into play as possible with cost reduction, free casts, and put-permanents-into-play effects. The dragons will win you the game. Play into them.
All that being said, you have a strong commander, good synergies, and lots of dragons. I've lost to this deck plenty of times. If you want to stay closer to your list, you will do fine, and I would recommend spending the most time on tightening your mana base.
Here is my Temur list in case it's of any help.
6 days ago
Hey, I just had a thought. Would Shattering Spree be a better sideboard option than Vandalblast because of Nivmagus Elemental? You will probably use it to destroy roughly the same number of artifacts, be it 2-3 or if you have the mana 4-5. When ever do you have to destroy more artifacts than you have red mana? I feel the replicate value where the spell literally becomes (tap all your red mana: destroy an artifact or two and put 6 +1+1 counters on a creature you control) adds versatility. Thoughts?
1 week ago
I worry about your vulnerability to board wipes and Vandalblast.
Maybe settle on a tribe (Cat, Human, Kor), add a Stoneforge Masterwork, and then trim cards so you have some reactivity and defense (say 10-15 cards) including spot removal, exile effects, your own instant-speed pseudo-wipes (like Comeuppance), and some draw (maybe Inheritance and Slate of Ancestry)?
Have fun voltroning!
1 week ago
I like the deck over all. I think it's pretty neat that your deck has an underlying "angel tribal" sub-theme to it. If you would like to expand that theme a bit then you could focus on more tribal synergies as well, like adding Bruna, the Fading Light and Herald of War. Also in your cat deck you have Herald's Horn and Urza's Incubator which I believe are better suited for this deck.
The big problem I am seeing with this deck overall is that your instants and sorcerys are a bit lacking, especially for red white, and your creature mana curve is really high. Some of the mana problems go away with the amount of rocks you run and if you switch to tribal angels you can use the artifacts and Herald of War to alleviate that a bit. Another problem is that most of your lands enter tapped.
To fix these things you could do as such (if you have the money or desire to):
-Desolation Giant (you're better off with a normal wrath)
-Jareth, Leonine Titan (doesn't have flying or reach which makes him worse)
-Kalemne's Captain (to much mana. If you have enough to monstrous, play an angel)
-Ancient Amphitheater (you wont be running enough giants for this to be worth it)
-Comeuppance (4 drop instant is a lot in this deck)
-Manabarbs (I like the idea, but you will need to tap many more lands than anyone else)
-Loxodon Warhammer (Great card, but not really useful in this high cost deck)
-Tamiyo's Journal (Too slow for this deck)
-Whispersilk Cloak (Most of your creatures already have flying)
+Seraph Sanctuary (life gain is nice & angel synergy)
+Defy Death (5 mana for an angel)
+Marshal's Anthem (anthems and brings back a bunch of creatures)
Other cards you might want to think about:There are plenty of other possible angels to add. The list is to big to add here, so look online if you are interested.
Path to Exile is great if you have a spare.
Wear is good, but it's a couple bucks.
Chaos Warp would be a must add if it wasn't $3.
Wraths are good at slowing down the game for you to catch up. Cards like Hour of Revelation, Day of Judgment, Blasphemous Act, Descend upon the Sinful, Rout, and Fumigate are all pretty good examples.
Vandalblast is a good artifact wrath.
Kindred Boon might be a sweet enchantment to check out.
Gratuitous Violence is right up this decks ally.
Berserkers' Onslaught is pretty cool as well.
Hope this helped.
1 week ago
With all the mana rocks out there, Vandalblast would come in handy; it'll help keep opponents from recovering.
2 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
I'm going to have to second the Zurgo Helmsmasher. A friend of mine runs him fairly budget and untuned and it is still a monster to deal with... Zurgo absolutely loves board wipes, Worldslayer + helmsmasher is just... I have no words honestly. I think my friend runs 10 wipes, I could be wrong. 3ish of them get around indestructible, just in case but otherwise Zurgo lives through them. And Zurgo + Sunforger gets to the magical 11 damage so you go from 3 swings to 2 swings. That is huge for a voltron deck.
All that said I'm also going to plug my own voltron deck Glissa's Tech. It isn't all that fast at winning a game but everything just keeps showing up no matter how many times the board gets wiped. Sometimes I wipe the board right after a Vandalblast and most my equipment comes rolling back out. Equip costs are pretty easy to deal with since I have all the manas.
But to go back to your question of best voltron colors I'm going to have to say the ones you enjoy the most. Voltron is a rather bad way to win in EDH, you have a lot of work to do when you sit down against 3 others and they are not going to make it easy on you. They will always find a way to kill your commander or kill all the stuff on him. So whatever you choose make sure it is something you like the feel and look of. Zurgo and Glissa are very different but they are both great in their own ways, you really can make just about any commander with a few decent keywords into a nightmare for your enemies.