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Vintage | Legal |
Treasure Cruise
Sorcery
Delve (You may exile cards from your graveyard as you cast this spell. Each card you exile while casting this spell pays for .)
Draw three cards.
DonaldFuck on
Saruman, the X man
2 months ago
Azoth2099 an other cool option is delve cards. Imagine casting a Ponder following with Treasure Cruise with only one mana. You get to mill them, cast something big (with 8 mv or less) and draw 3 cards with only one mana!
Kadak22 on
Villainous wealth: I'm The Captain Now
6 months ago
I know it's been a few years since this deck was made, but I just picked it up and it's a ton of fun! A great new addition to the deck from recent sets is Silver Scrutiny. Replacing Treasure Cruise with it really kicks the deck into overdrive. You can draw just as many cards at instant speed for 3 less mana, or you can dump most of the mana from your defenders into a massive draw spell and still have mana left over to cast all of your creatures (at least, that's how I have been playing it without infinite mana. Pemmin's Aura has really spiked in price). This gets even better with the Prophet of Kruphix out as you can spend your whole turn drawing a bunch of cards, then spend your opponent's turn casting all of the creatures you drew.
sylvannos on
Hoax Storm v2
6 months ago
@FireMind42: Yeah in that case, you'll want to go for Underworld Breach or Paradoxical Outcome (or something weird with both). I'd lean more towards Paradoxical Outcome because it lends itself better to straight U/R Storm. Not to mention, it opens up Displacer Kitten + Coveted Jewel shenanigans. Then you won't have to rely on rituals so much (Desperate Ritual, Goblin Electromancer, and Seething Song are especially awkward). You can then fit more artifact mana and draw spells.
You'll still want Bolas's Citadel because you're never going to actually spend black mana to cast it and the card is just the nuts in Storm. Memory Jar is always fun with Hullbreacher and Narset, Parter of Veils, but Bolas's Citadel is like Yawgmoth's Will and Yawgmoth's Bargain in one card that can be Tinker'd for (especially with Sensei's Divining Top, Brainstorm, and Ponder). You'll still need Sphinx of the Steel Wind in your sideboard, which is another card you're never going to actually cast.
Since you don't want Monastery Mentor, you'll have to get by with Laelia, the Blade Reforged. Sometimes you'll want to Grapeshot. Sometimes you'll want to Brain Freeze. Sometimes you'll want to Empty the Warrens. Other times, you need something that can get big quick and an easy way to do that is Laelia, the Blade Reforged, Treasure Cruise, and Dig Through Time. She's mostly for Underworld Breach, but I'm not sure you'll need that with Paradoxical Outcome.
I also don't know how I forgot to mention Mind's Desire in my original post. That's the reason to play pure U/R Storm in Vintage LOL. Personal Tutor may also have a potential spot somewhere in this list. It grabs Tinker, Grapeshot, Time Walk, Mind's Desire, and draw 7s. I'd even consider it over the second copies of Past in Flames and Grapeshot.
sylvannos on
Hoax Storm v2
7 months ago
To start with, there's a few cards that have better Vintage equivalents. Overmaster and Spell Pierce should be the 3rd. and 4th. copies of Force of Will. Leftover space from cutting those can be Red Elemental Blast, Pyroblast, or Flusterstorm. You don't need Faithless Looting because we have Paradoxical Outcome, Sensei's Divining Top, Gush, Dig Through Time, Treasure Cruise, and Brainstorm to choose from. Merchant Scroll also belongs in here, because you can use it to grab Ancestral Recall at the very least. Usually you want it to make sure you have protection in hand by grabbing countermagic.
Library of Alexandria isn't good in this deck. And you're not the type that needs 8x sources, so Steam Vents can go, along with a few copies of Volcanic Island (1 or 2). Replace all of these with four copies of Scalding Tarn and basic lands. Or even just play 6x fetches. You need to be able to shuffle after using Brainstorm, Ponder,and Sensei's Divining Top.
From here, you have a solid U/R Storm shell. However, I wouldn't play straight "Modern U/R Storm, but Power 9" dot dec. 2 mana is a lot for Goblin Electromancer, there are easier ways of winning than Grapeshot, and so on. The question then becomes "Where to go from here?"
- Paradoxical Outcome is just the nuts. By bouncing moxen and cheap artifacts, it's a ritual (since you can replay everything for , untapping it all) and it's a draw spell. However, Paradoxical Outcome requires Mox Opals, Lotus Petal, Lion's Eye Diamond, etc. so you'll have to cut rituals (likely Seething Song). The upside is you get an extremely powerful engine that can often end the game with a single Paradoxical Outcome.
- Thassa's Oracle is the new hotness for Vintage combo cards. You can win the game by casting Brain Freeze on yourself, then casting Thassa's Oracle. It also opens up more combos using Demonic Consultation and Doomsday. Sometimes you've just drawn a bunch of cards and have ~3 cards left in your deck.
- Tinker is too good in Storm not to play it. You're either getting Memory Jar, Bolas's Citadel, Time Vault (Voltaic Key is already good in Storm when combined with Mana Vault and friends), or a random wincon like Sphinx of the Steel Wind boarded in for game 2. Bolas's Citadel will essentially flip the top half of your deck into play.
- You can also play draw 7s (Wheel of Fortune, Timetwister, Memory Jar, Diminishing Returns) in combination with Narset, Parter of Veils and Hullbreacher.
- Mana Drain is good, but you may find it too slow if you make any of the above changes. It definitely does more work in a more control-oriented Storm deck with Narset, Parter of Veils, Dack Fayden, Grim Tutor, etc.
- Lastly, there's the question of Underworld Breach, Yawgmoth's Will, Monastery Mentor, or some combination of these. Underworld Breach will mean you can stay in two colors. Playing black for Yawgmoth's Will allows you to play Dark Ritual, Cabal Ritual, Yawgmoth's Bargain, Necropotence, Doomsday, Tendrils of Agony, and hardcasting Bolas's Citadel. Monastery Mentor both scales up and goes sideways. A single token is enough to kill someone combined with Paradoxical Outcome or a draw 7. Monastery Mentor is like casting Tarmogoyf and Empty the Warrens for three mana and one card.
Hope this helps! Welcome to MtG's oldest and greatest format.
DreadKhan on
Noyan Dar EDH
11 months ago
Have you thought about running some of the various Opt and Portent variants out there? to get a Noyan Dar tigger and filter your topdeck seems good, I love playing them in Talrand, they're great early game when you kept a dud hand (I swear sometimes it's like I zone out, keep a bad hand and just regain my senses when it's time for my first turn), and they're good later when they're almost a free trigger.
I could be wrong, but I'd play Dig Through Time or Treasure Cruise over Glimpse of Freedom. I actually like both Delve spells in a deck that likes to cast spells.
If you like Propaganda effects, there is War Tax, which is similar, but can be used during any player's turn, so it's really useful if there is an opponent you cannot let swing, and it's very funny if there is an Archenemy that uses attacking. Another way to brutally discourage most decks from attacking (at least for a cycle or two) is Mass Diminish, a card that probably should see more play in decks that attack. I still can't believe they printed Diminish to last a whole turn cycle, not just that turn, it can also just get a player killed in addition to hampering their attacks.
Cool deck, I bet there have been some very, very memorable casts of Tragic Arrogance, that's really good in Noyan.
legendofa on Yorion & Meathook Massacre banned
11 months ago
Delve has three bans out of 27, but Dig Through Time and Treasure Cruise both have bans in multiple formats.
Of the ten black-bordered Moxen, only Mox Amber, Mox Diamond, and Mox Tantalite aren't banned anywhere. This group includes five of the Power Nine. Is "cheap artifact mana" a mechanic?
SufferFromEDHD on
1 year ago
Feed the Swarm, Infernal Grasp and Pongify could be possible cuts for the suggested removal spells.
Cut a swamp for Geier Reach Sanitarium
I might be wrong about this but delve seems counter productive to the strategy. Cut Treasure Cruise and Dig Through Time for the much needed Entomb and Frantic Search.
TheOfficialCreator on
atraxa super friends
1 year ago
Treasure Cruise --> Swan Song?
Oath of Teferi is also good.
Aminatou, the Fateshifter + Bioessence Hydra + Spark Double makes an infinite trample creature and each piece is good on its own.
What specific problems do you have with your mana base and instants?
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