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|Masterpiece Series: Amonkhet Invocations (AKHMPS)||None|
|Tempest Remastered (TPR)||Uncommon|
|Promo Set (000)||Common|
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Return target permanent to its owner's hand.
5 days ago
Also it's really easy to get lots of creatures from bouncing Urza, Lord High Artificer with Capsize . The deck author actually outlines several possible combos in the "Infinite Mana and Draw" section.
1 week ago
What do you think of Venser, Shaper Savant ? With Yarok and and infinite mana engine he can bounce every opponent back to turn 1, while still having decent disruption utility if you draw him before being fully set up. Even with just Yarok a four mana buybacked Capsize with weird counter-ish potential seems worth a slot.
1 week ago
Sephyrias I don't endorse the RC's logic in banning (and especially their stubbornness in blatantly ignoring cEDH) BUT their logic on Paradox Engine is that it enables big combo turns without intentional setup. If you'd running Food Chain you're much more likely running cast-from-exile creatures and infinite mana payoffs. A lot of casual folks identify Engine as a powerful card with a cool effect and then randomly look up and think "WOW I CAN Capsize THE BOARD because I have Gilded Lotus , Sol Ring , AND Mind Stone !
1 month ago
"One-card wincons" to consider: Insurrection , Expropriate , Painful Quandary , Rise of the Dark Realms , Revel in Riches , Cut / Ribbons . Perhaps Clone Legion , Rite of Replication , Mogis, God of Slaughter , Hour of Promise , Blatant Thievery , Grave Betrayal , or Mind's Dilation .
One thing to think about is getting Nicol Bolas flipped and maybe joined by the other planeswalkers and casting Obliterate , Jokulhaups , Devastation , or Decree of Annihilation . Almost guaranteed ultimates. Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God would be the best--proxy for now and include in first build?
Boardwipes: Toxic Deluge , Black Sun's Zenith , Hour of Devastation , Decree of Pain , Curse of the Swine , In Garruk's Wake , Deadly Tempest , Evacuation , Nevinyrral's Disk , Last One Standing , Perilous Vault , Oblivion Stone , Kindred Dominance , Necromantic Selection , Subterranean Tremors
Removal: Capsize , Bedevil , Hero's Downfall , Chaos Warp , Kolaghan's Command , Reality Shift , Pongify , Rapid Hybridization , Vraska's Contempt , Rakdos Charm , Price of Fame , In Bolas's Clutches , Plaguecrafter , Merciless Executioner , Fleshbag Marauder , Unstable Obelisk , Vandalblast , By Force , Shatterstorm , Hostage Taker , Yawgmoth's Vile Offering , Settle the Score , Dark Impostor , Hour of Glory , Sever the Bloodline , Silence the Believers , Spread the Sickness , Slave of Bolas , Electrodominance
Draw: (I would add Erebos once you're home) Patient Rebuilding , Phyrexian Arena , Greed , Arguel's Blood Fast Flip, Notion Thief , Windfall , Mystical Tutor , Blue Sun's Zenith , Pull from Tomorrow , Stroke of Genius , Braingeyser , Mind Spring , Expansion / Explosion , Invoke the Firemind , Deliver Unto Evil , Augur of Bolas , Painful Truths , Fevered Visions , Search for Azcanta Flip, Fact or Fiction , Dig Through Time , Treasure Cruise , Tidings , Thassa, God of the Sea , Day's Undoing , Reforge the Soul , Standstill , Deep Analysis , Necrologia , Steady Progress , Tezzeret's Gambit , Oath of Jace
Random utility: Ophiomancer , Metallurgic Summonings , As Fortold, Pendrell Mists , No Mercy , Stranglehold , Fated Return , Dark Intimations , Spellseeker , Sire Of Insanity , Thief of Sanity , Spark Double , Primal Amulet Flip, Dragon's Hoard , Mystic Retrieval , Shreds of Sanity , Spelltwine , Ashiok, Dream Render , Torpor Orb , Baleful Strix , Darksteel Myr , Solemn Simulacrum , Wayfarer's Bauble , Vedalken Orrery , Saheeli, Sublime Artificer , Will Kenrith , Mana Geyser , Gem of Becoming , Thran Dynamo , Narset, Parter of Veils , Keranos, God of Storms , Thrilling Encore , Star Compass , Coldsteel Heart , Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs , Ensnaring Bridge , Crawlspace , Expedition Map , Burnished Hart , Torment of Scarabs , Cruel Reality , Mnemonic Betrayal , Yawgmoth's Will , Bloodchief Ascension , Nightscape Familiar , Gonti, Lord of Luxury , Thaumatic Compass Flip, Dreadhorde Invasion , Fraying Omnipotence , Thrummingbird , Viral Drake , Past in Flames , Mizzix's Mastery , Omniscience , Tainted AEther , Aid the Fallen , Deepglow Skate , Flux Channeler , Rings of Brighthearth , Silent Arbiter , Meekstone , Mudslide , Astral Cornucopia , Everflowing Chalice , Lethal Vapors , Sunbird's Invocation , Stolen Strategy , Maze of Ith , Spreading Plague , Merchant Scroll , Polluted Bonds , Black Market , Grave Upheaval , Memory Plunder , Pain Magnification
Beaters: Dragonlord Silumgar , The Scorpion God , The Locust God , The Scarab God , God-Eternal Kefnet , God-Eternal Bontu , Darksteel Colossus , Colossus of Akros , Visara the Dreadful , Tsabo Tavoc , Avatar of Woe , Balefire Dragon , Nicol Bolas , Hellkite Tyrant , Bladewing the Risen , Grave Titan , Inferno Titan , Steel Hellkite , Vampire Nighthawk , Torrential Gearhulk , Noxious Gearhulk , Combustible Gearhulk , Dominus of Fealty , Roil Elemental , Tidespout Tyrant , Kokusho, the Evening Star , Keiga, the Tide Star , Ryusei, the Falling Star , Wrexial, the Risen Deep , Etali, Primal Storm , Nezahal, Primal Tide , Tetzimoc, Primal Death , Dread , The Haunt of Hightower , Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind , Razaketh, the Foulblooded , Enigma Drake , Crackling Drake , Archfiend of Depravity , Sheoldred, Whispering One , Thing in the Ice Flip, Niv-Mizzet, Parun , Sepulchral Primordial , Molten Primordial , Diluvian Primordial , Ob Nixilis, Unshackled , Sire of Stagnation , Utvara Hellkite
1 month ago
Hi MoizyBoy. I'm not sure specifically which combos you're talking about, but if you let me know I can go over any details you need help with. The deck has gone through quite a few iterations, especially with the release of War of the Spark, but the deck description should be current.
The deck plays as a combo/control deck mostly. The idea is to slowly build up mana and interact (using removal) with opponents when needed to stay alive, until we can pull off a game-ending combo or other win condition. The most important resource for a combo/control deck is cards, so we run a ton of card draw effects to help us keep interaction in hand and to draw into a win condition. This has strong synergy with making our opponents discard (which is what teh Commander's ETB effect does), so we use Geth's Grimoire and Waste Not as ways to draw even more cards whenever we make our opponents discard.
There are many turns where I draw, play a land, maybe draw some additional cards or make a token, and then pass turn. Typically I'm holding up some instant speed interaction like Capsize or Mana Drain so I can disrupt a play that threatens me, and I play politics, trying to pit my opponents against each other. If teh board gets too scary, I'll sometimes wipe it with Damnation . But largely I'm looking for a way to draw a few dozen cards in a single turn, or a line of play that will let me win directly.
1 month ago
Devious Cover-Up loop so that way you can keep shuffling cards back into your library until your opponent decks themselves.
Capsize to keep bouncing your opponent's permanents every turn until they can't play anything, essentially locking out of the game.
But most will just concede once it locks down the board and realize they can't win.
1 month ago
So I'm not entirely sure how you play to win with Laboratory Maniac or Jace, Wielder of Mysteries . All the builds I've had with those cards use Demonic Consultation or Tainted Pact to exile their library, but I'm not sure how you plan to do that here outside using Sensei's Divining Top . I'm assuming I'm missing something. However, I've found that usually only one of those effects is necessary, so I'd consider cutting one of them (probably the Laboratory Maniac , as Jace, Wielder of Mysteries has applicability even if you're not going off).
Typically in EDH, I try to run around 33 or 34 lands. I've never been impressed with Halimar Depths , mainly because it ETBs tapped and blue has better top-deck manipulation in the form of Brainstorm , Ponder , Preordain and the like. So Halimar Depths is another card I'd consider cutting.
I've never been impressed with the card Dream Cache . It rearranges the cards in your hand, but it doesn't provide any card advantage for three mana; if it were one or even two mana, I'd consider it. But as things stand, I recommend cutting it. Portent is another card I'd cut. The delayed draw is really significantly worse than an immediate draw, and I don't think you need all of the possible one-mana cantrips.
Most of your instant spells have only or in their mana cost; therefore, redundant cost-reducers don't do much. Baral, Chief of Compliance and Sapphire Medallion are an excellent cards, but I don't think Primal Amulet Flip or Curious Homunculus Flip are quite good enough. I do see that Capsize gets a BIG bonus from several cost-reducers, but I don't think that's quite a good enough reason to run as many as you do. Arcane Melee would be my first card to cut, simply because it's symmetrical, and you're effectively ramping your opponents. I suggest running ramp like Coldsteel Heart , Sky Diamond and Mind Stone , as these tend to be cheaper than cost-reduces and the first two generate blue mana. These have the added bonus of being rocks to use with the dramatic scepter combo.
I think you're running slightly too much spot removal. Kasmina's Transmutation is good, as are all of your bounce spells, but I think running more than 3 or 4 is too much. So I'd suggest cutting Into the Roil or Blink of an Eye . Typically, trading one-for-ones in EDH isn't great, as you usually have three opponents.
I'd cut Rise from the Tides . I feel like just having a Talrand, Sky Summoner is good enough for this effect, and Rise from the Tides creates the tokens tapped for more mana than it's typically worth. Similarly, you may want to cut Docent of Perfection Flip.
I'd cut Rewind . Four mana is a lot to leave up at the end of your turn, especially since mono-blue doesn't exactly have an abundance of ramp magic. You have plenty of two-mana counters.
Swiftfoot Boots is a card I'd consider cutting. I don't think your general, while powerful, is going to draw the same amount of removal as Arcum Dagsson or Zur the Enchanter , so I think your counter-magic should be enough to protect you.
Generally, in combo decks, you want to focus in on the combo and tutoring it out. Whir of Invention and Reshape are worth considering as methods to tutor out Isochron Scepter ; I see you already have a lot of ways to tutor the Dramatic Reversal . I advise cutting out the cards in your deck that are not focused in on fetching and resolving that combo, as these will speed up your deck and make you a more potent threat earlier in the game.
1 month ago
All of these cards work well when you are running basically just mountains, running blue splits their power, and using non basics reduces their effectiveness even further. Downhill Charge , Granite Grip , and Seismic Strike .
These cards are ok, but don’t really work with your primary concept. Titan's Strength I like this for the scry, and if it drew a card it’d be fine, but as a combat trick it’s pretty meh. Kavu Scout is at most a 2/2 for two in this deck. Kraken's Eye is pretty passive life gain, but it’s not going to win the game for you, and it is pretty unlikely to save you too (it does improve with some of the buy back spells I list later). The problem with Akroan Crusader is that if we cut the combat tricks this card becomes way weaker, and even with the tricks, it’s not got a high likelihood of having both at the same time. Why would we run that when we can run cards like Crackling Drake ?
Strider Harness is good, but it is over costed for what it does.
Whisk Away I’m not loving this card, it is alright. It’s just low bang for the buck.
As for some cards that might help things, the issue I see is that your plan has a lot of draw, and some control, but not a lot of ways to win. As it is your commander is basically the only way you have of making use of the draw, out side of trying to win with Jace. Winning with Jace is gonna be tough cause you have to draw him, and then mill through your deck, it is possible just hard. So most of the suggestions are cards that work well with casting a lot of draw spells, or removal. This makes your plan of drawing a lot of cards do something other than drawing a lot of cards. Just like your commander they are all going to do something when you draw, or cast a spell. Talrand, Sky Summoner , Saheeli, Sublime Artificer , Murmuring Mystic , Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind , Guttersnipe , and Psychosis Crawler are all great for your deck.
Swarm Intelligence is great for casting a lot of spells.
A thing that might happen is running out of gas. So cards that give repeated use like flashback and buy back are huge. They mean you’ll always have something to do, and offer more value because of your cards that trigger on spell cast, or card draw. Some good examples include Mystic Retrieval , Fanning the Flames , Whispers of the Muse , Shattering Pulse , and though it is a little bit more expensive Capsize which is incredibly powerful and super annoying for other people to deal with if they can’t outright counter it.
AEtherize is just a super good card for the deck.
Your deck should basically just draw a whole lot of cards, and having the mana to play them is super important. I’d likely look at increasing the number of mana rocks (artifacts that make mana) in there, and making sure that you’re never hurting for your second color. Some solid suggestions for that are Izzet Signet , Izzet Cluestone , Commander's Sphere , Izzet Boilerworks , Terramorphic Expanse , Desolate Lighthouse , and Memorial to Genius is just great for your draw plan.
Capsize occurrence in decks from the last year
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