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Gaea's Cradle Discussion
3 days ago
Thanks for the suggestions! I forgot to mention that I'm trying to keep this budget so I wont add singles above $25, meaning Staff of Domination , Survival of the Fittest , Gaea's Cradle , even Craterhoof Behemoth are out of budget (nor can I find them easily in my locale).
I did try Elvish Guidance in an earlier build but again, once a wipe hits, its no use. Might try it again. I suppose Crop Rotation is only for Cradle and Nykthos? If I dont run both these lands/ only Nykthos, is it still worth it? For now, I'm unable to find a Natural Order locally, but Eldritch Evolution seems to be doing the job, and also cheaper (real money wise).
Grothama, All-Devouring can act as a substitute Ghalta, Primal Hunger for the sake of Life's Legacy effects. I feel I have issues with early filtering. Would cards like Generous Patron , Oath of Nissa work?
3 days ago
Hey lonesentinel, You have put together a very nice deck. I would have some recommendations that you might like.
Asceticism is a realy good protection and works very well.
I am available for any questions,
3 days ago
It's an interesting LD/tax take on Lord Windgrace .
I think there might be a little too much saturation of colourless in the mana base. One way to solve this would be to add Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth as this would fix for black mana. This also combos well with Cabal Coffers if you want large amounts of mana in the mid-to-late game after ramping out. The main reason to bring this up is that it can hurt your opening hands when you need to ramp/tutor to set up ramp.
As you are only running 18 creatures, Gaea's Cradle may not be the best fit as you've only got access to maybe three token generators in Titania, Protector of Argoth , Omnath, Locus of Rage and Field of the Dead , all of which are very slow ways to start churning out creatures and for which you have limited tutors. Avenger of Zendikar may be a better fit if you're wanting to keep this card in as it has the potential to generate a lot of tokens on ETB to buff up those numbers to get the most out of Gaea's Cradle
Hour of Promise is a great card to tutor out most of the two-land synergies like Dark Depths + Thespian's Stage , Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth + Cabal Coffers or Glacial Chasm + Throne of the High City . I highly recommend it as an effective land tutor.
Also considering the number of mountains you are running in the deck, it may be good to review whether Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle is a good fit as you are completely reliant on Prismatic Omen + Splendid Reclamation or Scapeshift to make this work, which can be rather painful to assemble when you're having to spend premium tutors to find it.
I would suggest dropping Forge of Heroes for another utility land or basic as Lord WINgrace isn't really going to benefit from 1 extra starting loyalty unless you're only planning on downticking for two turns. Further I can't think of a lot of use for Rishadan Port outside of a 1v1 game (as the effects you have that don't allow lands to untap have the stipulation 'tap for mana'), and even then the best way to deal with this would be something like Wasteland or Strip Mine to just straight up get rid of whatever land is causing you problems. The last land that looks odd is Dryad Arbor . I haven't really found much of a use for Dryad Arbor outside of really fringe circumstances where you're looking to block massive damage from a creature without trample or maybe throw an extra creature at a sacrifice effect to protect an important one. With Kessig Wolf Run you could end of turn fetch to deal with summoning sickness and just sink tonnes of mana into making it a big trampler during your turn but I feel that this strategy leaves you very vulnerable in the process (especially since anything with first strike or a single damage will just remove it). The inability to tap for mana on the turn it enters, along with it being rather vulnerable as a creature make it just a bit lacklustre compared to the multitude of other utility lands that are out there.
I like the Inkmoth Nexus + Karn's Bastion before setting up a Glacial Chasm and just slowly proliferating the opponent or just throw a Kessig Wolf Run on there for lethal infect, but I haven't really seen this strategy in action a whole lot.
Finally, you might also want to check your red mana ratios for Tectonic Reformation and I'm unsure whether you'll be able to cycle more than 1 or 2 cards a turn, could be wrong but a from a glance it looks a little thin. Again this leans a bit too heavy on Prismatic Omen to be reliable.
1 week ago
@Conaxi4783 - Hmm.. i didn't remember Revel in Riches .. although, it's not as reliable, as i would like.. but, i'm going to include it in the maybeboard.. might do a couple of playtests with it.. with Smothering Tithe , i had it in a previous iteration of this deck, but i chose to cut it because my playgroup has a couple of house rules, that puts a bounty on certain cards that we feel are annoying to play against.. Smothering Tithe , Rhystic Study , Sol Ring , Gaea's Cradle , Sensei's Divining Top & Lion's Eye Diamond are those cards currently.. whenever one player destroys/exiles any of those, they would get a point in our league per month.. although Sol Ring is still in my deck, it's not as eye catching to remove from the battlefield, unlike those others, so I had to cut it.. Thanks for the suggestions btw.
@hamdeadly - that could be useful, although my deck has a couple of enchantments that i would not rather destroy, and would prefer single/multiple targeted removal spells like Return to Dust .. maybe as a last resort.. but i will keep that mass removal spell in mind, if ever i would update this deck.. thanks!
1 week ago
Hi exiled69, those are both cards that are difficult to replace. I suppose that Squallmonger can do an Ifh-Biff Efreet impersonation, but Gaea's Cradle is pretty unique, and we already run Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip
2 weeks ago
3 weeks ago
Hey LVL_666, I was wondering what would be your priority for my next big addition to the deck.
Dual lands or a Gaea's Cradle ? Or maybe something I haven't thought about yet?
I want to choose the card that will have the biggest impact on my deck.
4 weeks ago
Hi TypicalTimmy thanks lol.
Crop Rotation is on my Acquireboard, I was waiting till I could get a Gaea's Cradle in there as well, but Inkmoth Nexus definitely enough value, just like having the other tutor outlet if draw the Inkmoth Nexus or Gaea's Cradle to hand.
I picked up a The Great Henge in a draft I did, been thinking how to properly utilize it in this deck. Still under consideration, many utility, just trying to figure it out.
That being said, I gave up trying to tutor artifacts, I need an artifact to combo properly with cats. Now, I've decided, instead of tutoring for an artifact, drawing an entire library to find the artifact is easier. The Great Henge can play an important role, with something like Fleetfoot Panther like TzickyT suggested, or a Whitemane Lion + and Aluren get there with almost infinite +1, and almost infinite draw (bound by cards left in deck). Theres gotta be a way to T2/T3 combo with this. Working on it, stay tuned.
Have a commander tournament tomorrow, so going to spend the morning strategizing on this cats deck with some other cEDH players.
I don't like Winds of Abandon because it's sorcery. CMC2 for exile is ok, but also ramps the player, much like how Path to Exile can be dangerous. What I like about Path to Exile is you can exile your own creature to ramp yourself, so it's a CMC1 ramp as well as a control/removal. Winds of Abandon lose that modularity. CMC6 overload at sorcery speed is just not sexy, Cyclonic Rift is instant, and the overload devastates the board (all permanents) where Winds of Abandon is just creatures which is likely meaningless. Noone does a creature combo and then waits a whole turn for a sorcery response. If it was instant, could be considered.
If anyone has thoughts on a T2/T3 way to draw library, please recommend!
Should have updates for cats soon, my revision of my Kaalia of the Vast deck is done, just one more card to change then that deck goes back into cEDH play testing.
Gaea's Cradle occurrence in decks from the last year
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