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Gaea's Cradle Discussion
18 hours ago
No budget? why not throw in Gaea's Cradle
Good luck :)
23 hours ago
Thanks for your suggestions griffstick. I looked at Elvish Piper for the first draft of this deck, but I don't usually have that many creatures stuck in hand to play. The way this deck is built most of the creatures synergize with themselves, so they are good when I have multiple of them, but are usually not very powerful even when cheated in.
Deceiver of Form is the main way this deck cheats creatures in without paying mana costs, so it only has to reach 7 or 8 mana most of the time, which happens quite consistently by turn 5 or 6 since there's a good amount of ramp. I don't usually cast the other big creatures but put them back on top of the library for Deceiver to turn all my creatures into copies of that big creature. Defense of the Heart also cheats them in early, and Tooth and Nail is still a 50% discount on 2 creatures that cost 8 mana.
The only other big creature I cast usually is Razaketh, the Foulblooded, which can start sacrificing creatures and paying back the mana by finding mana rocks, Natural Affinity, and Gaea's Cradle, and just set up a win. I only cast Tidespout Tyrant if I have a cheap artifact in hand that I can immediately use to bounce Mana Crypt and produce infinite mana.
The Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker and Zealous Conscripts combo is a good way to generate an infinite number of creatures, but then having such a strong infinite combo takes away focus from the Deceiver combos in the deck.
Keiga, the Tide Star is definitely on the radar since it works quite well with Deceiver.
I usually win after casting Insurrection so there isn't a need for sac outlets, but I might consider Greater Good since I often make big creatures and need card draw. I did consider Molten Primordial but it's only one mana cheaper than Insurrection and steals a lot fewer creatures.
I should definitely consider Bringer of the Black Dawn since I can cast it for 5 mana and free tutors every turn are pretty good for this deck. The only downside is that having more than one Bringer isn't helpful because each tutor shuffles away the previous one.
1 day ago
@cliffpaddle thanks for the thoughts! All interesting cards to consider
The rest feel a little slower than I want. They don't build towards the final goal fast enough. Most Animar decks can win with five or less mana sources.
Thanks again; I'm gonna upvote a bunch of your decks! cheers!
1 day ago
I find rites to be very good! It is a good cantrip and to me it hardly goes blank. Furhtermore, I find the chance to have another copy of Gaea's Cradle to be of great value.
RIX didn't show me cards of any value whatsoever. Brontodon doesn't have an ETB, so I would compare it to a worse Qasali Pridemage. In the same line of reasoning, swordtooth it's just an awful Oracle of Mul Daya. I thought about azor's gateway but I'm still uncertain: the risk of losing a lot of cards when flipped (since commander is a removal-intense format) is very high. The looting ability seems intriguing, though.
I find worldly to be stronger than beast within. There is no way for us to tutor beast, while worldly can get us some useful creature to solve critical situations. But that's just my personal opinion.
2 days ago
2 days ago
Welcome to the world of EDH brews and may your journey be long and creative !!
I really like your iteration of Kumena. In the theme of attacks and untapping Id suggest Sword of Feast and Famine (maybe instead of Sword of Light and Shadow, but it is really meta dependent, whether you want to replace it or add it by taking out something else), as you can virtually have Kumena almost always unblockable (with his ability), guaranteeing you an untap!Another thing, I noticed you removed Beast Within. Such choice also depends a lot on your play group, so obviously you know best, but I DO have to stress that it is one of the most powerful removal spells in EDH. It trades any PERMANENT (super important keyword in a word of Blood Moons, opposing Vedalken Orrery, Gaea's Cradles, and typical black/white protection like Animar, Soul of Elements) for just a 3/3. All in all, keep in mind how powerful it is as a card.
3 days ago
Seems fun, but is there a more budget version of Gaea's Cradle?