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Indestructible (Effects that say "destroy" don't destroy this artifact.)
: Gain one mana of any colour.
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Darksteel Ingot Discussion
3 days ago
Commander's Sphere is super cheap right now. Same with Darksteel Ingot, Leaden Myr, Everflowing Chalice, Astral Cornucopia, Corrupted Grafstone, Guardian Idol, Phyrexian Totem and Worn Powerstone. there are more (My LGS goes by tcg prices so that's what I use). If you wanted to make Hythonia the Cruel deck then maybe add a couple more gorgons. The ramp cards I suggested should be auto-includes once you get your hands on some money.
4 days ago
What are your wincons? No offense, but it looks like this deck was thrown together randomly. It seems like you have too many counterspells, so getting rid of those for a Solemn Simulacrum, Gilded Lotus, Wayfarer's Bauble, Walking Atlas Expedition Map, Sol Ring, Sky Diamond, Eye of Ramos, Commander's Sphere, Darksteel Ingot, Coldsteel Heart, and other artifact ramp cards could be useful. You might need to ditch some islands for ramp, so only get rid of a few. If you put in that much ramp, you could use your commander's ability to draw everyone cards as an excuse for no one to target you, draw a ton of cards, (Spellbook and Thought Vessel will keep you from discarding) then cast an eldrazi titan Emrakul, the Promised End, Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre, Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger, Kozilek, Butcher of Truth, Void Winnower, Desolation Twin, or some others of your choice. Other good creatures include Darksteel Colossus and Blightsteel Colossus. You don't have to run all of them but the more you run the more consistent your deck is. You could also put in infinite mana combos such as Rings of Brighthearth and Basalt Monolith (the combo can be confusing check out Infinite Colorless Mana Turn 1 for an explanation) or Isochron Scepter imprinted with Dramatic Reversal + any combinations of mana rocks that produce a total of 3 mana.
5 days ago
Thanks a lot for this fast reply! Oh now I get what you wanted to Tell me that Breya is your Combo.
Okay if you don't have any copies left then Manalith is okay. But I really recommend Chromatic Lantern Darksteel Ingot Vessel of Endless Rest since they do the same as Manalith and something in addition. Indestructible/Land Fixing/Semi Recursion. If you can get your hands on one of them, put it in :)
Then what do you spend your Infinite Mana on if you don't have acces to Breya (because Imprisoned in the Moon or similar) They are played very much in my meta.
Gemstone Array if I noticed correctly combo 4 and 5 make colorless mana so this card would make it into colored to cast Breya and could make another wincon straight out the command zone with a sac outlet
I tried some games with this deck (not 1:1 same but very similar) and sometimes I just miss a color to get Breya out :D
Any tipps what hands to keep and what to Mulligan?
Deadeye and Peregrin I'm not sure if I take them out for an artifcat combo Whir of Invention another good one but triple blue is hard.
Tutor for pieces if you have parts already. But what to tutor if you don't have any pieces ? Isochron reversal or something Else?
Thanks a Lot for all the help!
1 week ago
@wonderboyrox you bring up some valid points. In my testing the deck has stalled out because of not enough mana. It's one of the reasons I put so much draw in here. Once I get to 3 mana I can use Darksteel Myr to block with a Dead-Iron Sledge. Just having that equipped usually buys me a turn or two. And if I manage to get a Nemesis Mask on him as well that usually buys me enough time to get at least the 5 mana up and running to run the deck.
I do agree that I need some mana ramp or some more effective ways of defending myself earlier; but I would still like to stay colorless for this. I've been considering adding Darksteel Ingot for some more mana, and as another source of mana that survives a Worldslayer. It would open me up to not having to be set up perfectly to use Worldslayer. Do you have any suggestions to help ramp up or defend that are colorless?
1 week ago
Hey, Raff as a commander basicly gives you a Vedalken Orrery for most of your deck if done right. I enjoy building budget EDH decks for myself and my friends so I will gladly give advice.
To start with, it seems that you have listed Padeem, Consul of Innovation into your deck twice. Into that matter, playing that card means you are going into artifacts so i would recommend more of them. Metalwork Colossus is both a budget creature and a little bomb at flash speed. Being able to cast it easily as a 3-5 mana creature at the eot of your opponent basicly giving haste to a 10/10 which includes self recursion. Into that plan Chief Engineer, Filigree Angel, Foundry Inspector, Myr Retriever, Sanctum Gargoyle, Scrap Trawler, Soul of New Phyrexia and Sharding Sphinx would bring a lot of gimmics into the game and Treasure Mage as a handy tutor. This cards ain't too expensive too so they miught come in your budget.
Regarding your mana base, I can't help but wonder why haven't you included Sol Ring. Sure it is around 3,5$ but it is such a good card at any stage of the game I just can't think of a commander which wouldnt want it. I discourage the use of Gold Myr and Silver Myr thou their vulnerability towards removal and instead I would propose the addition of Sky Diamond and either Commander's Sphere or Darksteel Ingot. If it is in your budget, Burnished Hart and Thaumatic Compass Flip could help a great deal, as well as Esper Panorama or Bant Panorama.
GL and wish you good luck
1 week ago
add Commander's Sphere, Darksteel Ingot, you want a few mana rocks since ur not green you dont have mana ramp Pearl Medallion also at least 3 counter spells Render Silent Psychic Corrosion Wrath of God Dovin Baan Cyclonic Rift Supreme Verdict Baird, Steward of Argive Azor, the Lawbringer Detention Sphere Wall of Denial Isperia, Supreme Judge Fatespinner Reflector Mage Future Sight Authority of the Consuls Suppression Field
1 week ago
I would add more ramp (Marble Diamond, Pearl Medallion, Commander's Sphere, Darksteel Ingot, etc.) in place of some plains (I like to have 36-38 lands in my control decks, as I feel that <39 is too much) to get your commander out faster to counter aggro decks. Also consider Serra Ascendant, Serra Avatar, and Luminarch Ascension for some nice attackers, and Blazing Archon, Ajani Steadfast, Story Circle, and Platinum Angel for pillowfort.
1 week ago
Right off the bat there's some automatic includes I like to run in Golgari colors - those cards usually include some powerful effects that can effect the whole board with very little cost to you.
One of the biggest strengths black has is the ability to use what are referred to as Edict effects, which is a reference to a card called Diabolic Edict that forces your opponents to sacrifice creatures. This is powerful because no matter what you will trade a creature of yours for a creature of EACH opponent's - that's a one-for-three trade which gives you a sizable card advantage. Also sacrificing gets through pesky strategies like Indestructible or Hexproof from your opponents' commanders (chances are your opponents are going to try to protect their commanders very well).
For creatures that can do this easily, ordered from most favorite to least, Plaguecrafter, Merciless Executioner/Fleshbag Marauder (they are identical), lastly Slum Reaper. Slum Reaper is a bit more expensive but it's useful if you need more consistency of killing enemy creatures. If you REALLY want to push your opponents' creatures Butcher of Malakir can make sure no creature stays on the battlefield for very long as long as you constantly have creatures to throw into the graveyard.
You also have options in enchantments that can do this effect as well. Grave Pact and Dictate of Erebos are solid options, but should only be seriously considered if you're focusing on a sacrifice theme.
Secondly, I like adding sacrifice outlets. They are powerful additions that give you an out whenever you're dealing with targeted or mass creature removal. Ideally you want your sacrifice outlets to be free, so cards like Ashnod's Altar, Altar of Dementia, Carrion Feeder, and Viscera Seer will make sure you never get nothing from a creature dying on your side of the battlefield. Other options that can play well with Vhati il-Dal are Phyrexian Plaguelord who can turn your creatures into a -1/-1 for a creature that you weaken with Vhati's activated ability. If you're going with a creature-focused combat damage strategy Evolutionary Leap and Mycoloth are good options to trade your weaker creatures for more powerful options.
I'll list some overall good cards to add for Golgari colors, as well. Ramp (Named for Rampant Growth. These are cards that generate more mana for a small investment.)
- Sakura-Tribe Elder
- Kodama's Reach
- Explosive Vegetation
- Wood Elves
- Skyshroud Claim
- Solemn Simulacrum
- Golgari Signet
- Darksteel Ingot
- Cultivator's Caravan
- Sol Ring
- Eternal Witness
- Golgari Findbroker
- Journey to Eternity Flip
- Dread Return
- Find / Finality
- Living Death
- Hero's Downfall
- Malicious Affliction
- Unravel the Aether
- Acidic Slime
- Reclamation Sage
- Krosan Grip
- Beast Within
These are all just some ideas I hope they help you tone the deck into the direction you want it to go into.