Rocky Tar Pit

Land

Rocky Tar Pit enters the battlefield tapped.

, Sacrifice Rocky Tar Pit: Search your library for a Swamp or Mountain card and put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library.

Discussion (51)

triproberts12 on Why have one, when you can have 20?

3 weeks ago

Oh, and sorry this is coming in bursts. I'm just noticing one thing at a time. The other thing that will vastly improve this deck is getting some of the tap lands out. Unfortunately, any dual land touching blue is absurdly expensive, so I won't lecture you on how a fetch/shock/ABU dual manabase is always correct. There are some budget options, though:

Shocks were reprinted relatively recently, so investing in Blood Crypt, Steam Vents, and Watery Grave now will improve your deck's speed, and if you run the slow fetches Bad River, Mountain Valley, and Rocky Tar Pit, the mana should be very consistent, as well. Drowned Catacomb, Dragonskull Summit, Choked Estuary, and Foreboding Ruins also like more basic land types. Grixis Panorama and Ash Barrens are nice, because they can come down untapped or fix!

Temple of the False God is garbage. Being stuck on 3 lands and Temple until turn 6 will slow you down. Yep.

As for tapped lands, Temple of Deceit, Temple of Malice, and Temple of Epiphany are in-print now, so they'll be good replacements for whatever vanilla dual lands are left.

Brutal_B on Vile Smasher of the Face

1 month ago

Ender666666, you don't think the Cluestone, Locket, Sol Ring, Staff of Nin , and Vessel of Endless Rest is enough? Plus I have Bontu's Monument , Heartless Summoning and Conduit of Ruin to reduce costs. My thought process behind the land count is as follows: with so many high cmc cards and the filtering of lands via Bloodstained Mire , Rocky Tar Pit and the panoramas, I want to make sure I'm hitting my land drops every turn.

At the very least I can fish for some ramp with Chaos Wand and/or Etali, Primal Storm .

You think something like Mycosynth Wellspring , Mind Stone or Charcoal Diamond should be slotted in? I do have Mana Vault laying around...

OP_Sigma on The Queen's Egg

1 month ago

hey k_drake, both have completely different playstyles and they're great in their own way.

First, I'd invest in mana base.

You could try getting some shock lands or cheaper versions (but still fetchable) lands like Cinder Glade and Canopy Vista . Plus there are some cheap fetch lands that enter the battlefield tapped, Flood Plain , Grasslands , Mountain Valley , Rocky Tar Pit and Bad River to name a few.

Cards like Prismatic Omen , Chromatic Lantern , Manaweft Sliver and Gemhide Sliver are must have.

Feel free to link your decklist, it'll be a pleasure to take a look and help a fellow Sliver player.

I personnaly play The First Sliver (The Birth of the Swarm - [EDH]), it can lead to very explosive plays but is less consistent than the Sliver Overlord.

You should try them both since you already have those cards.

Have a good day!

Drakorya on Shifting Tides

2 months ago

A budget manabase in 5 colours is hard. multimedia's advice above is pretty good. Another option is using the cheaper dual-type lands, like Cinder Glade and Sheltered Thicket , with the Mirage fetchlands ( Bad River , Flood Plain , Grasslands , Mountain Valley and Rocky Tar Pit ).

The problem with using these is they all enter the battlefield tapped most of the time.

JohnMichaelBushman on Nicol Bolas the OathBreaker

3 months ago

Cool concept, but I suggest the following:

1. Lower your deck's curve. Yes, it is on flavor to be Bolas tribal, but they cost a lot to cast. Speaking of which...

2. Add in Evolving Wilds and Myriad Landscape . The more lands that tutor for lands, the better. You can also add in Rocky Tar Pit and other similar Slow Fetchlands if you have a budget.

3. Look at EDH lists for Nicol Bolas, the Ravager  ^Flip, especially since you want to go the Superfriends route. There're a handful of versions that could help you make this deck more efficient.

dingusdingo on Blood Moon in Four-Color Mana ...

4 months ago

You've correctly identified some methods already used (signets, dorks) which are extremely common in decks. This is because they 1) ramp 2) color fix 3) spread mana across permanent types to avoid getting wiped. You should DEFINITELY run the signets/talismans and available dorks, they are so incredibly efficient at what they do and at very low real dollar cost, and are diversified to avoid getting totally wiped. I know you want more lands but also consider Armageddon only costs $4 and has already had so many printings and you will see it in competitive decks and other low-tuner competitive decks. If you run Blood Moon on a budget, absolutely run the talismans and signets I can't stress that enough.

However, being a budget boy who wants to go fast myself, I've stumbled across similar questions before, so I'm more than willing to share what I've gleaned. You pretty much want cards that WILL come down turn 1 or 2, cards that give free stuff for cheap $$$, or or pump up those basic land #'s. You may also notice that in typical Blood Pod lists, there aren't that many red cards or red mana sources, and that many of my recommendations are green. You're going to want to weight your colors so red is a smaller part and to run very few red lands because all your nonbasics become Mountains, so run your nonbasics to include a red splash and then run more forests.

Sakura-Tribe Elder

It is a Rampant Growth on legs that can block-then-sac on annoying early creatures like Tymna the Weaver . Brings you to a basic so works with BM, it can swing to get Tymna triggers. It spiked a while ago but its still decently cheap to buy.

Rampant Growth Farseek Nature's Lore

Nature's Lore is the best of these three, as the forest enters untapped and it can grab shocklands with a Forest type if you dont have BM out. Growth gives the most utility by giving you any basic land for BM. Farseek gives any but a forest, but you have to make a green to cast it so you've got at least one green somehow. These are extremely playable fixer/ramp cards on a budget and are really going to help you with a budget Blood Moon land base. I recommend these over the 3 CMC counterparts Cultivate Kodama's Reach because they come out a turn faster so far lower chance you're going to get staxed out. They curve extremely well into having 4 mana on turn 3 (Tana on turn 3?), as opposed to using all your turn 3 mana for a big turn 4. They also raise the amount of keepable hands you will have, as 2 mana + growth gets you to Tymna, while 2 mana + Cultivate is a mulligan more times. They're even enjoyable to see sometimes late game after MLD.

Arcum's Astrolabe

Insane color fixing and it cantrips, the only problem is you have to run snow-basics instead. If you happen to have enough snow basics laying around, this is a very solid bet for color fixing.

Chromatic Sphere Chromatic Star

One of these is much cheaper to purchase, so I highly recommend that one. Fixes and cantrips, you really don't mind drawing them late at all.

Springleaf Drum

Color fixer and ramper, works real well with BM. Just add creatures.

Fetchlands

If you have them, they will deck thin + get you to the correct basic land. I know fetchlands are expensive, so also consider that there is a lesser known cycle of mirage ETB tapped fetchlands, while definitely worse, are much cheaper. Sleeper cards tagged for your convenience Flood Plain Bad River Rocky Tar Pit Mountain Valley Grasslands . Also DEFINITELY run Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse if you don't already. More sleeper fetches that might interest you Krosan Verge Thawing Glaciers

Simian Spirit Guide Elvish Spirit Guide

Nice replacements for Mox Opal and Mox Diamond . They let you hit signets/talismans/growths/big dorks on turn 1. They help you escape from underneath Trinisphere or Sphere of Resistance . They are slot intensive, but with Tymna in command zone to guarantee draws I would also highly recommend these. These will be invaluable in helping you get a stronger start than more expensive opposing stax decks. They're a small hit to the wallet but once again, fraction of the price of Opal/Diamond.

Wild Growth Utopia Sprawl

I didn't see these listed in the OP or in comments, so I definitely wanted to bring them up. Work extremely well to accelerate and color fix, they also work with Blood Moon . They're enchantments so it gives extra diversity from creatures/artifacts against wipes. Works extremely well with Arbor Elf and Voyaging Satyr

Landcycling

Tutors basic land of your choice to your hand. There are a couple downsides though 1) Doesn't ramp you at all 2) Most cards with landcycling aren't very good for the actual spell. Landcycling does have a few big perks though 1) its an activated ability, which makes it MUCH harder to interact with and mostly immune to stax effects 2) minor bonus utility of actually playing the card 3) it will become a land eventually so it dodges more hate than other permanent types. This would be effective if you had other strong stax decks in your meta, or a crazy amount of counterspells, but otherwise I'd try one of the other ones I listed first.

Metia on Deck does not contain a lapdance *ding* Sliver EDH

4 months ago

Umm, well I can't offer my exact land selection to you as it involves revised duals I can say this:

Fetches are your friend, seriously. In a 5 color deck having fetches rarely make me sad, so I would run the full contingent:

Polluted Delta

Flooded Strand

Wooded Foothills

Bloodstained Mire

Arid Mesa

Marsh Flats

Scalding Tarn

Misty Rainforest

Verdant Catacombs

Options:

There are Mirage fetches as well, a whole friendly color cycle of them, they are 'slow' but they can still grab shock lands, and cost no life: Rocky Tar Pit , Bad River , Flood Plain , Grasslands , Mountain Valley These also have the benefit of being absurdly cheap. That being said, if you do not have access to these, I'll offer some other suggestions.

Go up to 42-44 lands. Sure the curve hits 3/4, but I don't think the ideal is to hit 4 lands and be pleased with life, so I would suggest adding lands, and increasing consistency by removing some of the etb tapped lands:


Here are some 'simple' 1:1 conversions for cards I think would suit the deck better.

Kindred Dominance -> Woodland Cemetery

Coat of Arms -> The Immortal Sun

Intruder Alarm -> Dreamstone Hedron

Armageddon -> Hour of Promise

Fellwar Stone -> Mutavault

Arcane Sanctum -> Sulfur Falls

Crumbling Necropolis -> Clifftop Retreat

Savage Lands -> Isolated Chapel

Seaside Citadel -> Hinterland Harbor

Frontier Bivouac -> Rootbound Crag

Mystic Monastery -> Sunpetal Grove

Nomad Outpost -> Drowned Catacomb

Opulent Palace -> Glacial Fortress

Sandsteppe Citadel -> Dragonskull Summit

Exotic Orchard -> Reflecting Pool

Door of Destinies -> Vanquisher's Banner

Aphetto Dredging -> Icon of Ancestry

Amoeboid Changeling -> Unsettled Mariner

Honestly I hate the Terminate and some of the other choices but I am exhausted so I thought I would offer some help as opposed to trying to offer more and simply not posting.

SideBae on The Scarab God

4 months ago

So for starters, I think you should definitely include Ponder and Preordain . These two one-mana cantrips don't look like much, but they'll let you run thirty-three lands rather easily and smooth out your draws. There's a reason they're super-banned in Modern, and it's not 'cause no one likes them.

Brainstorm is similar to the aforementioned, but you need shuffle effects to make it good -- getting stuck with two dead cards on top of your deck blows chunks. I think you need at least three fetches to justify running brainstorm, and probably want six plus, really. If the Zendikar/Onslaught fetches ( Polluted Delta , Verdant Catacombs , etc.) are inaccessible (they often are), there're other fetch options. Prismatic Vista is good, but that one can be expensive too... Evolving Wilds , Bad River , Rocky Tar Pit , Flood Plain , Terramorphic Expanse and Ash Barrens are all valid and much more affordable.

Concerning your counter-board, there's room for (a little) improvement without breaking the bank. Disallow , for instance, is a strictly better Cancel . I don't think Thought Collapse is very good... three mana is a lot of pay for a counterspell is a lot, and milling an opponent is frequently good for them in EDH. I think you may be better off using that slot for something like Fact or Fiction (which builds card-advantage) or a low-cost counter like Spell Snare , Spell Pierce or Dispel .

The best way to improve this deck, I think, is to work on the mana-rocks. The best ones outside Sol Ring ( Mana Crypt , Mana Vault , Mox Diamond , etc.) are unfortunately very expensive; however, there're a lot of two-mana mana rocks that are very affordable, and you may already have lying around. In my experience, two-mana rocks are a lot better than three mana rocks. Consider some or all of the following: Talisman of Dominance , Dimir Signet , Fellwar Stone , Arcane Signet (I think/hope the price will drop soon), Mind Stone , Prismatic Lens , Everflowing Chalice ... These'll let you keep up with green decks, or at least have a chance of doing so.

I see you're running Gravecrawler . I feel semi-obliged to point out that Skullclamp is stupidly good with Gravecrawler . Note that if you have a lord like Diregraf Captain out, it becomes slightly less fun; however, with your Carrion Feeder , you can keep it coming.

I think most UB decks benefit from running Ashiok, Dream Render and Narset, Parter of Veils . Their hatebear-like static abilities are super relevant in EDH, and if you pair Narset, Parter of Veils with your Windfall , you're halfway to playing Leovold, Emissary of Trest (who, thank whatever G-d may be, is banned).

Obviously, I don't know exactly how this deck will play -- I've never played this list. However, I suspect you end up with a lot of guys on the field. If that's the case, consider Slate of Ancestry as a draw engine with discard as a perk.

If you run a reanimation package, you can get cards like your Grave Titan down REAL fast. Consider Entomb in addition to your Buried Alive , and two or three cards like Animate Dead , Reanimate , Necromancy , Dance of the Dead , etc. Depending how spicy you want to get, Dreams of the Dead is in your colors... I think it's probably pretty bad, but I figured I'd mention it.

Patriarch's Bidding is around $20 nowadays, but it'll help you recover from a boardwipe real fast. I suggest running it in most black tribal decks, unless your meta is more than 40% to 50% tribal.

Command Tower seems like a good land to run. However, if you want to cut the colorless lands like Emergence Zone for basic Swamp s and Island s, you can run Back to Basics to pretty good effect.

Winds of Rebuke is a good bounce effect that also mills you... It'll build card advantage via your graveyard, so you should at least test it.

Right. That's all I got for now. Good luck!