Bad River

Bad River

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Bad River enters the battlefield tapped.

{T}, Sacrifice Bad River: Search your library for an Island or Swamp card and put it onto the battlefield. Then shuffle your library.

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Vintage Masters (VMA) Uncommon
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Format Legality
Duel Commander Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Highlander Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
2019-10-04 Legal
MTGO Legal
Unformat Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Noble Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Legacy Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Leviathan Legal

Bad River occurrence in decks from the last year

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All decks: 0.01%

Bad River Discussion

SideBae on That's a big nope

1 week ago

One card that I always thought was pretty good with Aminatou, the Fateshifter is Counterbalance. Since you can shift the top card of your deck without revealing it, you can stack a 1 or 2 on top and nail an opponent for no cards. It also makes Sensei's Divining Top really good.

Gilded Drake is absurd with your general. Because of her wording, you can flicker permanents you own even if you don't control them -- so the minus becomes "steal target creature." It is $170. So either be rich or play with proxies... I love proxies, and I think they're unduly rejected in EDH.

Preordain is good in addition to your Ponder and Brainstorm. Brainstorm is best with more free shuffle effects than you currently have... They usually come from fetches like Polluted Delta, but those lands can be expensive. Slow fetches like Bad River also work, and things like Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse are also good.

You have two Arcane Signets. Unless the rules have changed, that's not allowed...

Control decks -- which I think this is -- tend to like wipes. I think Toxic Deluge is really good, since it gets around cards like Gaddock Teeg. Damnation and/or Wrath of God are also good.

You could also do with more two-mana mana-rocks; three-mana rocks, like Commander's Sphere, are significantly slower and come down turn three, competing with your commander. I suggest cards like Talisman of Dominance, Talisman of Hierarchy, Talisman of Progress, Fellwar Stone, Mind Stone, Everflowing Chalice, Azorius Signet, Dimir Signet, Orzhov Signet, Thought Vessel...

I also think you have better options than Defense Grid, since Defense Grid is symmetric and hoses your counters, too. Teferi, Time Raveler comes to mind.

Narset, Parter of Veils is also really good, especially if you can pair her with something like Windfall.

Finally, Omen of the Sea seems like it could be good to flicker, though playtesting would be needed.

Right. I hope this helps!

Optimator on Muldrotha deck

2 months ago

Looking good! It's hard to screw up Muldrotha. Just go to value town. Your selection of creatures seems great!

That said, I would include a little more ramp. You are at eightish, which is where one usually wants to be in an EDH deck, but Muldrotha is usually kill-on-sight and 6 CMC. Try to use more things that permanently get a land into the field, which you already have a good amount of, like Cultivate and Kodama's Reach. Also, Wood Elves, Farhaven Elf, and Wayfarer's Bauble can be brought back for value--making them particularly good. Elvish Reclaimer is an interesting choice too.

The one-CMC dorks (Llanowar Elves, Fyndhorn Elves, Elvish Mystic, Boreal Druid, Arbor Elf, Wild Growth (and to a lesser extent Birds of Paradise and Utopia Sprawl) are all extremely good generally for their speed and chumping ability. If they get whacked or boardwiped they can slowly be brought back later. Getting Muldrotha out as soon as possible is very worth it. I don't run many mana dorks in my Muldrotha deck. I would run as few artifact rampers as possible, since you don't have to (as you run Green). Lands are always safest. Commander's Sphere being brought back for the card draw is nice--probably better than the Darksteel Ingot.

Good job on including Evolving Wilds. I would also add Terramorphic Expanse and maybe Myriad Landscape, Warped Landscape, and Blighted Woodland. The Mirage fetches (Bad River, et al) are decent but better with fetchable lands that have two colors--like Sunken Hollow and Watery Grave. Be sure to include Opulent Palace. Exotic Orchard, Grand Coliseum, and Command Tower are worth including too. On a budget, Vivid Marsh, Vivid Creek, and Vivid Grove are all good too. That all said, I still like running a healthy amount of Basic Lands for repeated fetching.

Protecting Muldrotha is important. Kaya's Ghostform is an excellent choice. I would also include a combination of Aspect of Mongoose, Canopy Cover, Alpha Authority, Diplomatic Immunity, Alexi's Cloak, Cloudform, Mystic Veil, Robe of Mirrors, Mirror Shield, Whispersilk Cloak, Neurok Stealthsuit, Mask of Avacyn, and Swiftfoot Boots. Usually the Enchantment Auras are considered weak because they can be two-for-one'd, but Muldrotha can bring them right back!

Personally, I believe every single EDH deck should run at least two boardwipes, and more if you can find the room. Sometimes it's just an emergency. On a budget in Sultai colors I like Crux of Fate and Gaze of Granite the most, followed by In Garruk's Wake (should have the mana!), Deadly Tempest, Decree of Pain, Extinction Event, Hex, Nevinyrral's Disk, Oblivion Stone, Killing Wave, Hythonia the Cruel, Life's Finale, Massacre Girl, Necromantic Selection, and Black Sun's Zenith. Pernicious Deed is great too.

Not everyone likes doing this, but I love running Enchantment-based removal in Muldrotha since it can be reused. Many have strong effects but still aren't worth it since they can be removed but Muldrotha gets rid of that drawback! Things like Corrupted Conscience, Inevitable End, Kasmina's Transmutation, Ichthyomorphosis, Lignify, and Lay Claim. I've actually had good luck with things an innocuous as Universal Solvent.

Prospekt on Sultai Self-Mill

2 months ago

Okay so here's a bunch of suggestions that fit Gyruda's requirement and then some things to then take out.

Put in: Arcane Signet, Wake the Dead, Gravespawn Sovereign, Embalmer's Tools, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Disciple of Bolas, Forgotten Creation, Notion Thief, Oversold Cemetery, Skull Prophet, Clever Impersonator, Garruk Relentless  Flip, The Cauldron of Eternity, Sire of Stagnation, and Razaketh, the Foulblooded. The cards in your maybeboard seem good too.

Take out: Cranial Archive, Enhanced Surveillance, Devious Cover-Up, Gather the Pack, Migratory Greathorn, Polukranos, Unchained, Shepherd of Rot, Vengeful Dead, Void Beckoner, and all petitioners.

In terms of land, there are a lot of cheap options to include that will make a three color deck a lot better: Choked Estuary, Sunken Hollow, Botanical Sanctum, Blooming Marsh, Fetid Pools, Hissing Quagmire, Drowned Catacomb, Hinterland Harbor, Woodland Cemetery, Bad River, Ash Barrens, Dakmor Salvage, Exotic Orchard, Witch's Cottage, and stuff like that. Replace the guildgates and bounce lands and a few basics with those if you can.

And lastly if you want to run the petitioners then you should put more of them in, otherwise having just 8 won't do a whole lot for you most of the time other than for fun.

SideBae on Yuirko, the Sadist

3 months ago

So I have a few suggestions. Feel free to ignore any/all of them.

  1. I notice Mindlock Orb is in your MB. I think this effect can be powerful in the right meta, but if you do want to run it I think you should run Ashiok, Dream Render first. Being 3 mana rather than 4 is a big deal.

  2. I like that you're running Ponder -- consider running Preordain, too. I realize it's harder to stack your deck for Yuriko triggers with Preordain, but thinking of it as just a 1 mana cantrip should show how good it is. After all, there's a reason it's super-duper banned in modern. Additionally, you can make your Brainstorm a lot better by adding some cheap shuffle effects; currently, if you don't have Yuriko triggers happening, you're likely to get Brainstorm-locked (stuck with two blanks on top of your deck). Traditionally these shuffle effects come from fetchlands like Polluted Delta or Verdant Catacombs, but since these lands are expensive AF, it's worth noting there're other lands that do similar things. Bad River, Flood Plain and Rocky Tar Pit ("Slow Fetches") are good for budget builds, as is Terramorphic Expanse.

  3. If you want to speed up your deck, running as few ETB-tapped lands as possible is pretty much essential. I would cut Submerged Boneyard and Dimir Guildgate for Watery Grave, Drowned Catacomb, Sunken Ruins, Underground River, or even just basics.

  4. Yuriko presents an interesting dilemma as a general: you want your average CMC very high, in order to keep his triggers powerful, but you also want to be able to cast your spells. In general, people use alternate-casting-cost spells to deal with this. Consider running things like Treasure Cruise, Dig Through Time, Temporal Trespass (which makes me giggle when I see it played), The Magic Mirror, Commandeer, etc.

  5. There're other creatures you should consider running, especially if you consider them as recastable after being ninjutsu-ed back to your hand: Baleful Strix, Thalakos Seer, Snapcaster Mage (if you're rich), Cavern Harpy (a personal favorite), Murderous Rider (which strictly better than Murder), Man-o'-War, Rishadan Cutpurse, Spellseeker... Burglar Rat might be funny, though probably not too powerful.

  6. There're some ways to stack your deck not included in your deck. Mystical Tutor and Vampiric Tutor (though vampiric is expensive now) are really, really good. Also note that Counterbalance is another way to exploit topdeck manipulation, especially if you have your Sensei's Divining Top out. Don't forget Mystic Sanctuary.

  7. Don't discount Windfall and Fact or Fiction. They're really good. Windfall also works well with Narset, Parter of Veils or Notion Thief.

  8. Finally, don't forget about artifact ramp. Sol Ring is obviously the all-star here, but I think you should be running 2-mana rocks rather than 3-mana rocks. Consider running Arcane Signet, Talisman of Dominance, Fellwar Stone, Mind Stone, Prismatic Lens, Sky Diamond, Charcoal Diamond or Coldsteel Heart instead of Commander's Sphere, Worn Powerstone and Seer's Lantern.

Right. That's all I got. Good luck!

SideBae on Phenax, God Of Deception

4 months ago

So I think you should run Preordain in addition to your Ponder. It's a similar effect and is a powerful t1 play. I wouldn't run Brainstorm until you run at least three more fetches, though they don't have to be Zendikar/Onslaught fetches to work; consider Terramorphic Expanse, Bad River or even Prismatic Vista.

I think you should run Toxic Deluge, though it can be a bit pricy. Have you considered running snow-covered lands and Dead of Winter? I'm a big fan, even though it gives you less control than Toxic Deluge.

In general, I do not like 3-mana mana-rocks at all -- 2-mana mana-rocks are common enough, and 3-mana mana-rocks feel like they're just a turn behind. In that vein, I think you should cut Darksteel Ingot and Dimir Locket for cards like Dimir Signet, Coldsteel Heart, Sky Diamond or Charcoal Diamond. These are especially good if you lead with a t1 Sol Ring or choose to run Ancient Tomb.

So, I think you should definitely look at running Eater of the Dead. It's a REALLY old card (1994), but it's actually kinda funny in Phenax, God of Deception. You can use its ability to exile a creature you've milled and untap him, then tap him using Phenax and repeat.

You could consider running Lantern of Insight or (if you got $$$) Field of Dreams. These can give you intel as to whether you want to mill an OP before they draw or on their end step, which in turn lets you choose their draws for them. (In modern/some legacy, this is called 'lantern control.')

Dark Petition and Lim-Dul's Vault seem like they'd be good in addition to your Demonic Tutor and Mystical Tutor.

Windfall? It's REALLY good with Narset, Parter of Veils or a Notion Thief out.

One thing that I notice frequently going wrong with decks with generals who don't directly produce card-advantage is that they often simply run out of cards. I highly suggest bringing Fact or Fiction in from your maybeboard, and potentially running things like Chart a Course, Night's Whisper, Treasure Cruise, Necropotence, Dig Through Time, Chemister's Insight etc. to make up for this.

Right. That's all I got. Good luck.

ShreddedByCrows on Surrakar tribal challenge

5 months ago

Cool concept, even if it's pretty hard to match. A bit of an easy take on your theme, but why don't you play some Shapeshifters as a way to have more Surrakar? Tribal cards also could help.

As Surrakars' living places are mostly wild forests and underground rivers, there's a lot to do with that without having to back up only on the Zendikar's expansions.

1.) River cards:

  • River of Tears not the best land you could find, but fits in there

  • Underground River certainly an essential

  • Bad River cheap fetchland fitting the theme

  • Rushing River great removal, really underplayed, fits the theme / you can try something revolving around self land destruction if you decide to give it a try (Crop Rotation, Crucible of Worlds, Wasteland, etc.)

  • River Kelpie interesting creature, which design feels otherworldly and weird, according to the Surrakars /n needs a graveyard gameplan to be effective, and that will seem fine (obvious synergy is [card:Cauldron of Souls] and it's a playable card in there) / pretty good interactions with Yarok / card draw

  • Carpet of Flowers staple in lots of decks for mana production, depends on your playgroup though

  • Dire Undercurrents excellent synergies with Yarok, enabling your creatures without etb-abilities to be more effective / card draw, card advantage

  • Undermine weird counterspell, not really that good, not bad either / illustration matches with the theme

2.) Cave cards:

3.) Cloning your Surrakars cards:

  • Mirror of the Forebears not the most flavourful one, but gives you a cheap way to get more Surrakars so it deserves being at least mentioned

  • Fated Infatuation same comment as for the Mirror, with the advantage of the more abstract card name / waterpoint in the illustration

  • Mimic Vat classic card, not the most flavourful

  • Wall of Stolen Identity more of a Ravnica-themed card, but worth mentioning

  • Phantasmal Image if you can alter a bit the card's image, it could be some Surrakar there / otherwise, it's a good card, and the illustration is strange enough to not injure your theme-deck-style imo

  • Metamorphic Alteration also a nice one

  • Mirror Image not as good as the others, still a wildish illustration style according well with Surrakars

  • Unstable Shapeshifter funny card, a quality+ illustration

  • Bramble Sovereign Surrakars also living in the Guum Wilds/Tangled Vale, this one feels really good / has some interactions with Yarok

  • Rite of Replication Zendikar-themed, water-themed, excellent card, good interactions with Yarok

  • Supplant Form let's just assume for a while that this is Surrakar's magic lel

  • Dual Nature yeh it is slow, but it is strong / interactions with Yarok

4.) Tribal outlet:

5.) Yarok outlet

6.) Other cards

I hope you'll find something helpful amongst those suggestions, keep on brewing and thanks for sharing it!

BlackoutX on The show must go on

5 months ago

you really should add in some better mana ramp/low mana creatures that grow in power or just have high nat power like Prowling Serpopard. Also some things that hate on low power creatures because as it stands your dead before you actually play anything. Also why the Bad River if your going for budget + it like the name is a bad land. Lifecrafter's Bestiary not worth it you wont have free mana to draw from it and even if you do you wont have a problem with card draw in this deck.

Haima13 on Korvold, Aristocracy

5 months ago

My spoilers in the comment above arnt working for me so im trying something different. "If you want to sift through some cards you can look at each section, but I would recommend just looking at the first grouping to start with, as I went a bit too far with the other lists. Those lists are fine to just look at ideas or "good cards" but there are far too many to call them suggestions.

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