Mountain Valley enters the battlefield tapped.
, Sacrifice Mountain Valley: Search your library for a Mountain or Forest card and put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library.
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|Commander 2018 (C18)||Uncommon|
|Vintage Masters (VMA)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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Mountain Valley Discussion
3 days ago
My advice is consider cutting a few land ramp spells and adding some repeatable draw sources such as Valakut Exploration, Garruk's Uprising and Tireless Tracker. Exploration uses landfall to play cards from the top of your library including lands. It can also be graveyard fuel for Trove Warden, Sun Titan and Emeria Shepherd. Uprising is an amazing budget card in Commander with creature strategies especially with Omnath, Locus of Rage and Rampaging Baloths since it triggers when a token is created. Tracker, Mystery Booster version, creates clues with landfall and clues can sac to draw.
Crop Rotation can tutor for any land which is nice with Bounce lands, Fetch lands, Kessig Wolf Run and Gavony Township. Emeria Angel and Scute Swarm are build your own army with landfall which is very good with Doubling Season, Felidar Retreat, Township and Beastmaster Ascension.
Cinder Glade and Canopy Vista are some land upgrades for the manabase because they have good interaction with lots of basic lands and they're two different land types. Farseek, Nature's Lore, Grasslands, Mountain Valley can search for one of these dual lands. Krosan Verge and Skyshroud Claim can get both of them. These Battle lands are $2 or less each at TCGPlayer. Exotic Orchard is a budget Rainbow land that's quite good in multiplayer Commander.
Cards to consider cutting:
- Gruul Guildgate
- Selesnya Guildgate
- Boros Guildgate
- 1x Forest
- Awakening of Vitu-Ghazi
- Beanstalk Giant
- Nissa's Renewal
- Far Wanderings
- Circuitous Route
- Rampant Growth
- Retreat to Kazandu
Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
So there're a couple of things I think you can do to improve this deck; feel free to ignore any/all of them:
Mana dorks! The greatest strength of green in EDH is its access to 1 mana dorks who make mana. I highly recommend running at least for (and possibly 6-7) of the following: Birds of Paradise, Deathrite Shaman, Llanowar Elves, Elves of Deep Shadow, Fyndhorn Elves, Elvish Mystic, Boreal Druid, Arbor Elf... These will give you access to consistent ramp that other colors simply cannot match if they don't have a Sol Ring in their opening hand.
Dorks also allow you to run better artifact-hate, if you replace your rocks with them. Cutting things like Thran Dynamo for a Llanowar Elves will both allow you to come out of the gate faster and allow you to run Null Rod effects to nail your opponents' ramp. Collector Ouphe is the top of this category, since you can grab it with tutors like Green Sun's Zenith (which I think you should run if you can).
Cantrips are important! They can dig you to what you need when you need it for relatively little mana. Brainstorm, Ponder and Preordain belong in pretty much any blue deck, though Brainstorm is questionable since you don't have many free shuffle effects (usually provided by fetch lands). I would definitely run Ponder and Preordain, and Brainstorm if you change up your manabase a little.
Speaking of fetches, they're expensive these days -- but there are more affordable options. Consider what are called the "slow fetches:" Rocky Tar Pit, Bad River, Flood Plain, Grasslands and Mountain Valley. These are almost as good and also fetch nonbasics like Breeding Pool and Watery Grave, if you choose to run them. Evolving Wilds, Fabled Passage and Terramorphic Expanse are also options.
That's all I got. Good luck!
2 months ago
G'day mate! I might have some suggestions that could help you out, so let's start off looking at your mana base. You run a LOTTTT of lands that come in tapped. In my opinion- you should ditch them all. So what could you add-in? Some of these are kind of pricy, but as you build this deck more definitely consider some of these land options.
- Blood Crypt
- Bloodstained Mire (Budget: Rocky Tar Pit) (This can search for a card like Blood Crypt AND basics)
- Blackcleave Cliffs
- Sulfurous Springs
- Graven Cairns
- Luxury Suite (Maybe)
- Dragonskull Summit(Maybe)
- Foreboding Ruins (Maybe)
- Smoldering Marsh (Maybe)
- Overgrown Tomb
- Verdant Catacombs
- Blooming Marsh
- Llanowar Wastes or Nurturing Peatland
- Twilight Mire
- Woodland Cemetery (Maybe)
- Undergrowth Stadium
- Stomping Ground
- Wooded Foothills (Budget: Mountain Valley)
- Copperline Gorge
- Karplusan Forest
- Fire-Lit Thicket
- Rootbound Crag (Maybe)
- Spire Garden (Maybe)
- Game Trail (Maybe)
Cinder Glade (Maybe)
The first five for each color (The Shock Lands, Dual Fetch Lands, Fast Lands, Pain Lands, and Filter lands are the best, and I recommend putting in those five of each color. The others are more budget options you may want to include for the moment before you can get your hands on more expensive options. There are also some multicolor lands that are VERY helpful, such as some of the following.
- Prismatic Vista
- Fabled Passage
- City of Brass
- Mana Confluence
- Reflecting Pool
- Exotic Orchard
- Strip Mine/Wasteland
- Command Tower
- Forbidden Orchard
- Gemstone Mine
- Gemstone Caverns
There are also some VERY good ramp options in your colors! Ramp is very important, and I would consider all of these
- Oracle of Mul Daya
- Birds of Paradise
- Sylvan Caryatid
- Bloom Tender
- Selvala, Heart of the Wilds
- Dark Ritual
- Nature's Lore
- Farseek and Sakura-Tribe Elder
- Emerald Medallion, Jet Medallion, and Ruby Medallion
Now I know that's a lot, and a lot in money, but I promise you its a big step in helping your deck perform a lot better. Once you have a good mana base, things will come a lot easier. If you ever need to find cards to put in Proshh, I recommend checking out EDHREC, which gives you many helpful suggestions for every commander. (Click here to go to your commander on edhrec. If this helps, be sure to check out and like some of my decks, (Double Trouble EDH, A Deal With the Devil EDH, and many more! Anyways though, good luck on your deck, hope this helps, and have a great day!!! Happy tapping!
2 months ago
Yo... I've always loved lantern-control in EDH! I have a few suggestions:
So the easiest ways to increase consistency are either to run tutors or to run redundant pieces. I see you're running a lot of tutors already, which is good; one redundant piece I think you missed is Field of Dreams. It's about $60, which can be a lot if you don't want to invest in EDH. Personally, I think proxies are unfairly treated in EDH, since it's not a paid event (typically), so I recommend them. If your playgroup doesn't allow them, tho... well, $60 is doable.
Another way to increase consistency is to run cantrips. I highly suggest running Ponder and Preordain. If you run fetches, Brainstorm is also a powerhouse. Of course, the zendikar/onslaught fetches are a fortune; consider Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse, Fabled Passage, Grasslands, Bad River, Flood Plain and/or Mountain Valley. These are perfectly acceptable alternatives.
When games go long, you'll need a way to recoup cards. Consider big-draws like Treasure Cruise and Dig Through Time (which are good when you're filling your yard with Ghoulcaller's Bell), Fact or Fiction or even Concentrate.
Speaking of Emry, Lurker of the Loch, have you thought about Mindslaver? I used to play a lantern-control EDH list, and I used Mindslaver with Emry to strong effect. Generally, you can lock out one of your opponents and make him do whatever you want, including win for you. That's generally fun.
You're in green -- USE DORKS! This is easily the most overlooked part of green decks, which is sad because dorks are the best reason to be in green. Turn one ramp is better than artifacts can do most of the time, plus it gives you pokers if you need to use them with Derevi later. I highly recommend running at least four of the following: Birds of Paradise, Avacyn's Pilgrim, Noble Hierarch, Arbor Elf, Llanowar Elves, Fyndhorn Elves, Elvish Mystic... Even Boreal Druid and Joraga Treespeaker are good. You can also consider non-creature options, like Wild Growth and/or Utopia Sprawl.
Winter Orb. You can tap opponents' lands with Derevi. Enough said.
Finally, two walkers to consider are Oko, Thief of Crowns and Teferi, Time Raveler. Oko is great removal for opponents' problem cards (he nerfs all fatties into Trained Armodons) while occasionally producing a clock for you. Teferi nails opposing Counterspells, while producing a small amount of card advantage with his minus and allowing you to recast something if you bounce your own permanent.
Right. That's all I got. Hope this helps!
2 months ago
Toxic Deluge is an expensive card that I expect to go down in price soon (it's been reprinted in Double Masters, and in my experience masters sets tank their rares, if only for a short while). It'd be especially good since you have a lot of high-toughness cards.
I also think that even in a deck based on walls, you can benefit a LOT from one-mana mana-dorks. Arbor Elf, Elves of Deep Shadow, Elvish Mystic, Llanowar Elves, Deathrite Shaman, Fyndhorn Elves etc. will accelerate you in a way that only green can do. Even with boardwipes, they're worth it. Note that they also let you land your general turn two, if you get the right mana.
Additionally, since you're not a landfall, I feel like you're running too many lands. Replacing some with dorks will let you come out of the gate a lot faster. (I play EDH with a lot of more powerful decks, and your experience may differ from mine. However, I find that being able to land a meaningful turn-one play like Birds of Paradise is good in all power-levels.)
Speaking of lands, your mana base can be improved for relatively cheap. Indatha Triome is about $4 these days, and could easily replace your Jungle Hollow... Fetches are busted, especially when paired with duals like Overgrown Tomb or Savannah. However, if you don't plan on selling a kidney, there're other ways to improve. Slow-fetches (Rocky Tar Pit, Bad River, Flood Plain, Mountain Valley and Grasslands) are super affordable. Note that they can also fetch your non-basic typed lands (like Canopy Vista or Indatha Triome). Other lands of various prices to consider are Exotic Orchard, City of Brass, Reflecting Pool, Llanowar Wastes, Brushland, Caves of Koilos and friends.
Card advantage decides most EDH (and Magic in general) games. Some cards to consider: Sylvan Library, Painful Truths, Harmonize, Night's Whisper, Phyrexian Arena, Dark Tutelage etc. are all good ways. I was going to suggest Runic Armasaur, but you already spotted that one.
Retribution of the Meek is a GREAT wipe for decks like this.
I also suggest cutting some cards. I don't think Path to Exile is very good in EDH, where one-for-ones need to be REALLY good (like Swords to Plowshares or non-type specific like Mythos of Nethroi), and Path to Exile ramps your opponents. They're very likely to just use the extra mana to deploy a more dangerous threat. Glyph of Doom is interesting, and might be good, but I don't think it would be (granted that's not based on direct experience). I think you could probably just use a more powerful card in that slot. I also think you can cut some of the equipments for more influential cards. For example, if you cut Spidersilk Net and friends you can run things like Collector Ouphe and Stony Silence. If you're running mana dorks, you'll have ramp while your artifact-based friends get nailed.
Right. That's all I got. Hope this helped!
5 months ago
I think you can make some improvements in your mana rocks. The Borderposts you currently have in the deck are pretty awful compared to the likes of Fellwar Stone, Talisman of Conviction, Talisman of Impulse and Talisman of Unity. Speaking of rocks, why in the name of the Threefold Sun do you not have Sol Ring? Additionally, you could get a Chromatic Lantern in there as well. All of the previously mentioned aren't pennies, but are still quite affordable.
As for lands, I understand you don't want to break the bank BUuuuuuut have you ever looked into the Mirage Fetchlands? Specifically Mountain Valley and Grasslands are relevant to this deck. Also, there are some dual lands that fit within your budget - the Battle Lands cycle from Zendikar. From that cycle, consider Cinder Glade and Canopy Vista.
I think that's it for now, but your deck definitely could use a few upgrades to be more consistent.
5 months ago
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5 months ago
I agree with multimedia: Two-mana mana-rocks are really important in EDH, as long as you're not in green. My first instinct here is to add more of them, and upgrade the three-drop rocks to two-drops. Three-drops like Commander's Sphere and Chromatic Lantern aren't as good, since they don't allow you to cast your general turn three. Consider some adding some of the following: Talisman of Conviction, Talisman of Hierarchy, Fellwar Stone, Talisman of Indulgence, Arcane Signet, Everflowing Chalice, Mind Stone...
I like Crackling Doom, since to be good 2+-for-ones are necessary in EDH (since you have 3 opponents). Fire Covenant and Kolaghan's Command are also fairly powerful, the former more than the latter. Wear / Tear is also a RW staple.
There're some lands I think you missed. Savai Triome is almost strictly better than Nomad Outpost and could probably replace one of your basics. Mana Confluence, City of Brass, Reflecting Pool, Forbidden Orchard and Exotic Orchard are also funny, though the first few are kinda expensive. If you have $10 and want to get spicy, Shizo, Death's Storehouse can replace a basic Swamp and will give your general more evasion. I also think you can cut one to three lands if you put in more artifact-based ramp, since this'll make your deck faster. Slow-fetches like Rocky Tar Pit, Mountain Valley and friends are also on the table, since they can get Smoldering Marsh and Savai Triome (if you run it).
Alternatively, you could consider the "moon" plan. Blood Moon and Magus of the Moon can be back-breaking against a lot of decks, and if you design your deck right you can still run them in a three-color deck. Running snow-covered lands and Arcum's Astrolabe can help, and your signets/potential talismans are all good ways to smooth out your colors. Ruination is similar. If you want to go hard (I like pushing my decks to be as good as possible), consider Armageddon and Ravages of War: those can end a game if your general is out, since you can prevent a response.
Depending on your meta, you may want to consider cards like Cursed Totem. If you're playing against a green player (who is playing dorks, which they 2,000% should), this will shut down Elvish Mystic etc. and slow them down like crazy. It also shuts down Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip shenanigans and other abilities.
Deflecting Swat seems like a good way to protect your general from spot-removal.
Last card I can suggest is Cataclysm. It's good for wiping the board once you've landed your general, and making people lose their lands serves as protection for her. Also note that it totally wipes planeswalkers.