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Urban Evolution Discussion
2 weeks ago
UpperDeckerTaco Land Tax is a card I've been seriously thinking about, and same with card's like Exploration and Burgeoning. My deck runs a loooooot of ramp, and land tax seems like it may not do a whole lot if i'm always ahead of curve. My fear is that their usefulness will fall rather short because of my tendency to ramp into a child on turn 4 or 5 followed instantly with sacrificing child to clear the board and discourage my opponents from winning. And those cards are extremely powerful early game. It's something I will have to test and see how effective it is versus a sorcery like Explore or Urban Evolution which i can very easily recur with Archaeomancer,Izzet Chronarch,Mnemonic Wall. But Eternal Witness and Noxious Revival can grab anything. So I think it is something that will just come down to testing.
1 month ago
armillary fixes your land drops, but you have 39 land, donno if youu need that Nature's Lore can get you the duel lands, which is super handy Search for Tomorrow is kinda cute that you can get it going on turn one in the 3 mana spot, Kodama's Reachthe new Spring / Mind card seems pretty handy, turning into a late game draw card rather then peregrination, i recommend Explosive Vegetation or Skyshroud Claim
the signets work pretty well, whatever ones you find i'd shift them in over the 'dragons cost 1 less mana cards' as you find the ramp cards i guess, might even be able to pull out one or two lands for the 2 mana ramp spells
Urban Evolution isn't bad as a draw/ramp card either
for 7 mana, I dont' feel like that guy is doing enough in your deck, you might have one card in your hand it applies to when you cast it, and he doesn't do much else
1 month ago
Ooh, I get to be the first to look this over! OwO
The first thing I would suggest is a better description, to be honest. It's hard to critique something with zero knowledge of its goals. I see you're working on a budget, so I'll tailor my advice accordingly.
I would also try to put in a bit more draw that's not dependent on having large creatures (Rhystic Study is pretty sweet).
Bonds of Mortality is trash under most circumstances. I wouldn't normally play it unless I had a very specific reason to do so.
You don't have a Sol Ring in here. You should fix that.
Quicksilver Amulet is a great way to cheat things in early and unexpectedly.
Of your maybeboard, I would definitely try and find space for Command Tower, Fierce Empath, Lightning Greaves, Soul of the Harvest, and Temple of the False God. I would cut Manaweft Sliver, Sylvan Scrying, Bonds of Mortality, and Natural Connection.
Hope this helped - happy deckbuilding!
2 months ago
Thanks everyone for your input!
PlattBonnayI love the idea of Bontu the Glorified, he's a bit expensive money-wise, but he is a Standard staple and the combo is hilarious so I'll consider buying him. Greater Gargadon is just amazingly OP (I would probably put in a one drop that could only help me wrath a couple times, but I also get a free 9/7? Sweet!) I'll also consider Angelic Purge for one of the 99. It's definitely sideboard worthy, in case I come up against a Avacyn, Angel of Hope deck or something.
the.beanpole Thanks for mentioning Grim Backwoods, the deck is focused around mana ramp so the 4 mana won't be a problem, and hey I get a free card. However, I don't think that the Child of Alara has to go to the graveyard for it's ability to trigger. My reasoning is that stuff like Kokusho, the Evening Star has "when put into the graveyard from play", which is the same as dying, except the graveyard bit is specified. I'll have to check with my playgroup, however.
Chandrian and cklise: thanks for the idea, but I'm planning to focus heavily on the Maze's End win con, and thus pretty much the only permanents I have are lands, my commander and things like Expedition Map and Sakura-Tribe Elder, which aren't gonna stay on the battlefield long. But still, thanks for your input!
Ohthenoises... I have no idea what's going on there, but thanks anyway!
Iron_Cube: Keldon Necropolis, is definitely usable. As i said earlier to beanpole, the deck has a shit load of Explore and Urban Evolution effects, so mana won't be a problem. Granted, the two damage will be effectively useless, with the wipe happening immediately after and the win condition not being damage related, but it's the sacrifice bit that's important. Mirrorpool isn't the best sac ability, as it can only trigger once, and is mildly expensive mana wise and has no additional effects. I would rather play Morbid Curiosity or Disciple of Bolas to get something out of the solo sac. Westvale Abbey Flip would just take too long and use up too much mana to pump out the clerics, and I don't have my one creatures to supplement Ormendahl, Profane Prince Flip's diet. And I would swear the creepy kid didn't have to go to the graveyard... but I'm running lots of recursion to get back stuff like removed gates or Expedition Map so even if it does so I should be fine. Gift of Immortality would however mean that I don't have to pay the casting cost ever again, command zone or no, so it's a definite addition.
PookandPie: Thanks for going to all the trouble of getting the list of all those lands together, now I know that all you guys haven't missed anything. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss Grim Backwoods and Keldon Necropolis, the entire deck is built to getting lots of land out as fast as I can, so mana shouldn't be a problem. As for copying, I would rather not turn my lands into creatures, simply because they would be that much easier to remove: I don't to lose my Izzet Guildgate to a Doom Blade lol. But yeah Phyrexian Tower and co. are too expensive for a little edh player like me lol.
Epidilius: The idea is sound, but there are instant/sorceries out there that have sac a creature as an additional cost, and thus their CMC is really low too (eg. Culling the Weak or Abjure). As for removing opponent's stuff, the commander is literally wrath on a stick that (effectively) doesn't effect me. If I were to use removal, I would probably use exile effects, cos destroy may not cut it.
3 months ago
Is this a relatively competitive deck, or a casual deck? If casual: enjoy. I'm not gonna ruin your day.
If it's supposed to play against somewhat competitive decks (fnm-level), you need to change it quite a bit. Starting by buffing Experiment One up to a full set. Remove 3 of the most expensive creatures to do this. Then you could use 4 Hardened Scales. For that, goodbye Plummet, Unexpected Results, and Urban Evolution. Since +1/+1 counters is a theme, Strangleroot Geist fits right in, and so does Avatar of the Resolute - again, remove the most mana-demanding creatures to accomodate (and this is probably going to be some of those you really like, due to their funny and gameturning special abilities - sry about that).
Land: Anything blue-green that comes into play untapped is good. It's an aggro deck, and it shouldn't sit around waiting for mana to get ready.
3 months ago
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3 months ago
Good post bushido_man96 I appreciate it. All your suggestions I would certainly run if I had the budget for more cards(with the exception of Rhystic Study, which I own and was running in this very list until recently). Mirri's Guile I especially wish I could afford to buy lol.
I dropped Urban Evolution but it's tough not to hang onto Treasure Cruise when the delve syngergy is so strong with cascade and helps thin the GY for Charmbreaker Devils, Tasigur, the Golden Fang, and Deadbridge Chant. To be fair though, all 3 of those cards are on the chopping block atm.
Similarly with Rishkar's Expertise the upside with cascade is so high it's tough to let go. I also do have 7 recursion effects 3 of which are repeating which helps justify those 2 spots. I may end up ditching them though we will see it's definitely something to keep in mind.
I've only got 5 more slots to take out WHOOOO!!!! One will probably be Deadbridge Chant, although I love this card and the upside is massive it could mill a key dragon and then promptly die, then I'm pretty fucked. Could also throw in a Bladewing the Risen maybe? Then again I need to take stuff OUT not IN. It's just such an attractive card since there is so little enchantment hate in my meta right now.
3 months ago
Urban Evolution is good to throw down more lands and keep up a hand.