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Urban Evolution Discussion
3 weeks ago
Thanks everyone for your input!
PlattBonnayI love the idea of Bontu the Glorified, he's a bit expensive money-wise, but he is a Standard staple and the combo is hilarious so I'll consider buying him. Greater Gargadon is just amazingly OP (I would probably put in a one drop that could only help me wrath a couple times, but I also get a free 9/7? Sweet!) I'll also consider Angelic Purge for one of the 99. It's definitely sideboard worthy, in case I come up against a Avacyn, Angel of Hope deck or something.
the.beanpole Thanks for mentioning Grim Backwoods, the deck is focused around mana ramp so the 4 mana won't be a problem, and hey I get a free card. However, I don't think that the Child of Alara has to go to the graveyard for it's ability to trigger. My reasoning is that stuff like Kokusho, the Evening Star has "when put into the graveyard from play", which is the same as dying, except the graveyard bit is specified. I'll have to check with my playgroup, however.
Chandrian and cklise: thanks for the idea, but I'm planning to focus heavily on the Maze's End win con, and thus pretty much the only permanents I have are lands, my commander and things like Expedition Map and Sakura-Tribe Elder, which aren't gonna stay on the battlefield long. But still, thanks for your input!
Ohthenoises... I have no idea what's going on there, but thanks anyway!
Iron_Cube: Keldon Necropolis, is definitely usable. As i said earlier to beanpole, the deck has a shit load of Explore and Urban Evolution effects, so mana won't be a problem. Granted, the two damage will be effectively useless, with the wipe happening immediately after and the win condition not being damage related, but it's the sacrifice bit that's important. Mirrorpool isn't the best sac ability, as it can only trigger once, and is mildly expensive mana wise and has no additional effects. I would rather play Morbid Curiosity or Disciple of Bolas to get something out of the solo sac. Westvale Abbey Flip would just take too long and use up too much mana to pump out the clerics, and I don't have my one creatures to supplement Ormendahl, Profane Prince Flip's diet. And I would swear the creepy kid didn't have to go to the graveyard... but I'm running lots of recursion to get back stuff like removed gates or Expedition Map so even if it does so I should be fine. Gift of Immortality would however mean that I don't have to pay the casting cost ever again, command zone or no, so it's a definite addition.
PookandPie: Thanks for going to all the trouble of getting the list of all those lands together, now I know that all you guys haven't missed anything. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss Grim Backwoods and Keldon Necropolis, the entire deck is built to getting lots of land out as fast as I can, so mana shouldn't be a problem. As for copying, I would rather not turn my lands into creatures, simply because they would be that much easier to remove: I don't to lose my Izzet Guildgate to a Doom Blade lol. But yeah Phyrexian Tower and co. are too expensive for a little edh player like me lol.
Epidilius: The idea is sound, but there are instant/sorceries out there that have sac a creature as an additional cost, and thus their CMC is really low too (eg. Culling the Weak or Abjure). As for removing opponent's stuff, the commander is literally wrath on a stick that (effectively) doesn't effect me. If I were to use removal, I would probably use exile effects, cos destroy may not cut it.
1 month ago
Is this a relatively competitive deck, or a casual deck? If casual: enjoy. I'm not gonna ruin your day.
If it's supposed to play against somewhat competitive decks (fnm-level), you need to change it quite a bit. Starting by buffing Experiment One up to a full set. Remove 3 of the most expensive creatures to do this. Then you could use 4 Hardened Scales. For that, goodbye Plummet, Unexpected Results, and Urban Evolution. Since +1/+1 counters is a theme, Strangleroot Geist fits right in, and so does Avatar of the Resolute - again, remove the most mana-demanding creatures to accomodate (and this is probably going to be some of those you really like, due to their funny and gameturning special abilities - sry about that).
Land: Anything blue-green that comes into play untapped is good. It's an aggro deck, and it shouldn't sit around waiting for mana to get ready.
1 month ago
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1 month ago
Good post bushido_man96 I appreciate it. All your suggestions I would certainly run if I had the budget for more cards(with the exception of Rhystic Study, which I own and was running in this very list until recently). Mirri's Guile I especially wish I could afford to buy lol.
I dropped Urban Evolution but it's tough not to hang onto Treasure Cruise when the delve syngergy is so strong with cascade and helps thin the GY for Charmbreaker Devils, Tasigur, the Golden Fang, and Deadbridge Chant. To be fair though, all 3 of those cards are on the chopping block atm.
Similarly with Rishkar's Expertise the upside with cascade is so high it's tough to let go. I also do have 7 recursion effects 3 of which are repeating which helps justify those 2 spots. I may end up ditching them though we will see it's definitely something to keep in mind.
I've only got 5 more slots to take out WHOOOO!!!! One will probably be Deadbridge Chant, although I love this card and the upside is massive it could mill a key dragon and then promptly die, then I'm pretty fucked. Could also throw in a Bladewing the Risen maybe? Then again I need to take stuff OUT not IN. It's just such an attractive card since there is so little enchantment hate in my meta right now.
2 months ago
Urban Evolution is good to throw down more lands and keep up a hand.
2 months ago
I am back to make another long post.
Confusion with As Foretold Show
Either way, too slow and janky for Modern. Restore Balance on turn 3 on the play is the most busted thing you can do with it, to say nothing of the poor consistency of the deck. You lose instantly to enchantment removal.
"Brief" thoughts on newer spoilers Show
Champion of Snakeface is spoopy and all that, just not worth building around. The earliest you can smack with him is turn 4, and that's in magical christmasland. The opponent has 0 interaction, can't kill you before turn 6, and you've got all your combo pieces. Aetherworks Marvel makes it redundant.
Bounty of the Luxa is way, way too slow for my liking. Compare to Urban Evolution. Short of taking extra turns, I'd prefer the sorcery.
Angel of Sanctions is unimpressive- a generic white mythic that may see play because 2 for 1 too stronk.
New Perspectives is guaranteed to see some play because of jank points and Standard legality, not that it's competitive.
Cruel Reality is aptly named when you look at its CMC.
Doggoface's favor is pretty meh.
Strictly worse Monastery Swiftspear is strictly worse than Monastery Swiftspear (unless you feel like nitpicking what I say), but still pretty much the same card, so you'll play it in Standard. Maybe EDH because jank. Nowhere else.
Hapatra is worse Grim Flayer in standard. Good for commander though.
Liliana is 5 mana sit-on-chair-and-don't-do-much planeswalker.
Failure to Comply, just like all the other aftermath cards, feels deliberately powered down because two cards in one. I'd prefer Unsubstantiate.
The 'win the game' card in white actually looks sweet. I love a bit of jank that actually looks viable.
I'm afraid that's all I can be bothered to post for now.
2 months ago
Here are some cards that I might immediately cut:
Academy Elite, Aeon Chronicler, Bloodbraid Elf, Bogardan Hellkite, Breaker of Armies, Dragon Mage, Flameblast Dragon, Hamletback Goliath, Hermit of the Natterknolls Flip, Horizon Chimera, Hypersonic Dragon, Inkwell Leviathan, Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur, Keranos, God of Storms, Kruphix, God of Horizons, Lorescale Coatl, Magus of the Future, Melek, Izzet Paragon, Memnarch, Mindwrack Liege, Murkfiend Liege, Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind, Nylea, God of the Hunt, Psychosis Crawler, Purphoros, God of the Forge, Quicksilver Gargantuan, Rishkar, Peema Renegade, Scute Mob, Servant of the Conduit, Shipbreaker Kraken, Simic Sky Swallower, Somberwald Stag, Spellbreaker Behemoth, Spellheart Chimera, Surrak Dragonclaw, Talrand, Sky Summoner, Thassa, God of the Sea, Thromok the Insatiable, Tireless Tracker, Verdant Force, Vexing Shusher, Wall of Blossoms, Whisperwood Elemental, Wistful Selkie, Xenagos, God of Revels, Clan Defiance, Crater's Claws, Devastation Tide, Minds Aglow, Mizzix's Mastery, Reforge the Soul, Release the Gremlins, Seismic Stomp, Shamanic Revelation, Sylvan Scrying, Traverse the Ulvenwald, Unexpected Results, Urban Evolution, Volcanic Vision, Wheel of Fate, Arcane Denial, Clip Wings, Counterflux, Counterspell, Cyclonic Rift, Desertion, Disallow, Disdainful Stroke, Evacuation, Heroic Intervention, Insidious Will, Krosan Grip, Naturalize, Negate, Plasm Capture, Sulfurous Blast, Trap Essence, Turn Aside, Unsubstantiate, Visions of Beyond, Void Shatter, Voidslime, and TBH there are simply too many things to cut to list them all because my fingers are getting tired. I'd cut most of your planeswalkers, most of your non-ramp artifacts, and most of your enchantments.
My primary piece of advice here is that 1) You really should choose to prioritize abusing creatures OR spells, not both, because there are simply too few slots, and 2) you want your spells/creatures to do things in multiples. You don't need too much draw here because your mana is tied up doubling splashy spells, but you need a heck of a lot of mana ramp to keep up.
I don't mean to sound curt, sorry :( Hope this was at least a bit helpful! I agree with Lilbrudder that it's simply too many cards to reasonably cut down, and that you should take a little time and find a focus for the deck.