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Creeping Renaissance Discussion
5 days ago
Doombeard1984 well for a while i was running Altar of Dementia as mill outlett forcing anyone to either take on the creatures or get milled out of all their combos but as you said it was part of the deck that was diluting the whole purpose so now i just rely on the quik building elves and i keep a Creeping Renaissance on hand incase they get anything to important the flash back on that is awsome too, cause at the end of the day your either going to win or your not, you cant always be ready lol.
2 weeks ago
9-lives, I ask that you read this and think about it. I am well known for wanting to have my cake and eat it. This is a game, and games are meant to be fun, even if it's competitive. That being said, the following are my suggestions:
Lotus Cobra is only really good when you can get more than one landfall trigger and generate a faster tempo (generally off of "fetch lands" like Windswept Heath into an untapped land). For example: consider turn three. Two forests in play, lotus cobra, Pride Sovereign, and windswept heath in hand. You play cobra, drop a fetch, and search, opening 3 mana (if you include the untapped land) to play the sovereign.
Life total is irrelevant unless you can abuse it, or you are playing against burn (in which it is still not really relevant). Examples of abusing lifegain are Aetherflux Reservoir+Sydri, Galvanic Genius, Felidar Sovereign, and Lim-Dul's Vault. The only formats these can be achieved in are commander, highlander, or other eternal formats.
Indestructible is insane, especially because the only removal for it in modern is in white or -1/-1 counters.
Even if I'm not in aggro I would still play Fleecemane Lion, Loam Lion, and Wild Nacatl. I would do this because they are the creatures that will keep me alive in the early game, while applying pressure. for these I would take out Ajani's Pridemate and Lotus Cobra (unless you are willing to get some fetches)
The flaw in your argument that Renaissance is better, is that it is for your enchantments. Renaissance is not card advantage. The information is still open, it doesn't immediately expand your board presence, and can be hated out more easily than your enchantments. Rest in Peace is currently in the mainboard of multiple decks that run white. My decks play Tormod's Crypt. Hating out your graveyard is currently game 1 meta. In reality, I would not run recursion/graveyard in the main. Against this deck (assuming your recursion is in your sideboard) I would plan on ditching my graveyard hate for enchantment hate. This is because I believe that drawing my graveyard hate is a dud against your deck.
2 weeks ago
Have you thought about adding in tutors to streamline the deck even more. Or adding in cards like Seismic Assault in conjunction with Zuran Orb or as you have Squandered Resources to have synergy with Creeping Renaissance/Shadow of the Grave/Praetor's Counsel.
Hope that helps!
2 weeks ago
I have Creeping Renaissance for the happenstance that I lose my enchantments. I would much rather have a card that makes my enchantments hexproof but I can't find anything that will help with that. Open the Vaults is similar but not nearly as good as Creeping Renaissance.
3 weeks ago
Thanks for the reply! I did have The Mending of Dominaria and Impending Disaster in the deck. I ended up pulling them out for a couple of other cards before i posted the list to tappedout. I was thinking about Creeping Renaissance to get with the big daddy cyclops or Seismic Assault for chucking more lands
3 weeks ago
I have a similar windgrace build myself. A couple more cards that would help recover from the land destruction are The Mending of Dominaria and Creeping Renaissance. And one more card on the land destruction side is Impending Disaster.
1 month ago
1 month ago
I suggested Need for Speed awhile ago. Sylvan Safekeeper is the better all around 1 drop. Added Impending Disaster based off your list. Serious upgrade and great in Jund lands.