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Selvala's Stampede Discussion
1 week ago
Thanks for commenting on our deck!
We had considered Ghalta, Primal Hunger but decided not to add it because most of the other creatures we're using are more versatile and have more going for them other than just being really big.
The combo you're mentioning with Temur Sabertooth and Regal Force is nice, but we feel we would be adding these cards just to enable this combo; especially Sabertooth. That's not enough for us. And sure, Force is a great draw-enabler, but the deck contains plenty of ways for us to draw cards already and most are much cheaper to cast and use.
We took out Rhonas's Monument from an earlier iteration of this deck. We felt it was just a win-more card and didn't add enough to our overall strategy.
Survival of the Fittest and Earthcraft would both make this deck more powerful. However, we currently do not own them and we've stopped buying MTG cards. This means we would have to find someone who is willing to trade these with us and we've found this to be hard.
We have mixed feelings about Protean Hulk. It too was in an earlier iteration of this deck and it's not bad, but it's rather expensive to cast. It happened a bit too frequently that by the time we got to use his tutoring ability, we were usually already winning anyway, so we didn't really see the point.
We like your Ulvenwald Tracker suggestion. Great way to get rid of pesky utility creatures in the opposing side that won't block our monsters in an attack. Especially good combined with some of the untap enablers in this deck, so that we can use it more often. We're going to think a bit about what it will replace.
Lastly, Selvala's Stampede is wonderful but we found that it's not very handy when you're using lots of creatures with variable mana costs, so we decided to not use it in this deck.
Thanks again for all your thoughts, we appreciate it!
Mrs. and Mr. NV_1980
1 week ago
Let's replace -
1 week ago
Hey NV_1980 I like this deck. However, there are some cards you need to add in here. Ghalta, Primal Hunger Temur Sabertooth Rhonas's Monument Survival of the Fittest Earthcraft Protean Hulk Ulvenwald Tracker Selvala's Stampede Regal Force
My favorite combo is The Paradox Engine, Selvala, Ghalta, any mana dork, Temur sabertooth, and Regal Force
Tap mana dork for selvala, using Temur Sabertooth to bounce regal force to your hand. Cast him, untap everything, and draw cards.
1 week ago
How much of a budget do you have?
Some cards off the bat that can be considered:
Big Dummies on budget:
Interaction on budget:
Fun Mayael Cards on budget:
Now to some cards you can consider to cut:
- Garruk's Horde
- Zhur-Taa Ancient
- Vengeful Archon
- Trolls of Tel-Jilad
- Warp World
- Titanic Ultimatum
Hope that helps!
1 week ago
Cheating of mana cost is probably the most powerful thing you can do for dragons. My Ur-Dragon deck abuses a lot of free summoning mechanics or severely reduces their mana cost.
Cream of the Crop, Sensei's Divining Top, Brainstorm, Sylvan Library, Lim-Dul's Vault, and Congregation at Dawn all set the top of your deck with whatever cards you want. In this deck that's going to be dragons 90% of the time.
Lurking Predators, Descendants' Path, and Intent, The Dreamer all let you play the top card of your library for free or for a severe discount. I also run Wild Pair to slam down multiple dragons a turn. Belbe's Portal, Hunting Grounds, and Quicksilver Amulet also let cheat them into play at instant speed and for less mana then their casting costs. Selvala's Stampede creates a conundrum at the table and usually lets you drop several permanents from your hand into play and get one creature off the top. Fist of Suns and Jodah, Archmage Eternal let you cast anything for 5 which is a significant discount on your commander and other cards.
Alternatively you can run a great graveyard based package with Reanimate, Animate Dead, Strands of Night, Sheoldred, Whispering One, Buried Alive, Entomb, Life from the Loam and other dredge cards and always tutor for Scion and Bladewing to get that all going.
I've always found dragons biggest weakness is their lack of interaction with what your opponents are doing. Aura Shards, Sarkhan's Unsealing, Warstorm Surge, Cyclonic Rift, Toxic Deluge, Cleansing Meditation, Vandalblast, and Austere Command take care of our opponents game plans swiftly with little or no impact on our board.
2 weeks ago
Quite a few changes in the past few months. It is hard to say when these changes were made, but this is where the deck stands now. What do you think?
1 month ago
The cmc curve of this deck is always going to be quite high, I would recommend adding in some essential ramp spells and ways to cheat in your creatures. I'm assuming that the cards you will consider will be more on the budget side so here might be some cards you can consider. Selvala's Stampede, good way to be threat and able to cheat permanents from hand or flip into big dragons from the deck. Sunbird's Invocation, since you are reducing the spells of your dragon, the 'cascade' trigger will be large and unlikely you will whiff most of the time. Cream of the Crop a pseudo filtering where it synergizes with your big drops so you can fix your draws. Summoning Trap only would use if you face against a lot of counterspell decks. Nature's Lore, Farseek, Rampant Growth, Cultivate, Kodama's Reach, Hour of Promise, and Skyshroud Claim are great ramp spells that are better in the long run. If not all the signets and talismans for mana rocks to accelerate.
I would recommend cutting all the equipments as you don't need that when your dropping big threats already, Door to Nothingness, Doubling Cube, Lich's Mirror, Descent of the Dragons, Traitorous Blood, Gift of Paradise, Prodigious Growth, Command the Storm, Tail Slash, and Holy Day.
Hope that helps! If your not on budget there are other alternative options but the cards are $10+
2 months ago
I'm liking the looks of this so far! The great thing about Surrak is he enables a great number of different directions to take the deck in. One piece of feedback is that for your "free" enablers, Selvala's Stampede is one of the strongest of such spells. Also for the amount of mana that it would take to make a decent sized Endless One, you could probably be doing something much more powerful like casting Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger. A friend of mine also rund Impervious Greatwurm as a sweet fatty. Feel free to take a look at my current list for playable ideas.