Stroke of Genius
Target player draws X cards.
|Want (3)||Corpse_Casanova , Brianne , Zaboumafool|
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|Commander 2015 (C15)||Rare|
|Commander 2014 (C14)||Rare|
|Vintage Masters (VMA)||Rare|
|Urza's Saga (USG)||Rare|
|Promo Set (000)||Rare|
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- Jace, Wielder of Mysteries + Stroke of Genius
- Stroke of Genius + Thassa's Oracle
- Dramatic Reversal + Isochron Scepter + Stroke of Genius
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Stroke of Genius Discussion
6 days ago
Now that you have a smaller list you can work on rounding out your deck strategy. As well as making adjustments needed to help your deck win games.
First, the elephant in the room; People are not pleased if If you can create infinite mana in a deck, but then cannot win on the turn you can do it. Or worse, don't even have any direct way of using that mana to win the game.
You need to add at least 1 way to win with infinite mana and you need ways to find it reliably every game you play. Infinite mana by itself cannot win a game. So you need to add cards like any of the following:
Winning with Artifacts you can find with Tinker: cards like Walking Ballista, Rocket Launcher, Goblin Cannon, Whetwheel, or using something like Staff of Domination and a creature that taps to damage or mill.
Even Ambassador Laquatus.
Just add a couple copies of any of these chards to the deck so that when you find yourself with infinite mana you can win the game immediately.
6 days ago
Yeah Tragic Slip probably isn't so good here, but I really like the art. :^)
Anyway, if you're attached to the idea of using the group hug mana elements, there are probably a few other take outs we can find. Truthfully Gargos, Vicious Watcher might be able to come out. Only reduces the cost of a handful of cards and his passive doesn't have a ton of synergy in this deck. Maga, Traitor to Mortals seems like a good card to sub out for a few reasons, the big two being it's very black intensive and it only kills one player. Black cards you have that also have the potential to kill a player Damnable Pact and Profane Command at least have some utility to them outside of slaying someone and they aren't quite as hard to cast. From what I can tell, the only time you're going to be using her is when you can go infinite, and even then you're only going to kill one person. You could also maybe take out another land since you have plenty of ramp.
Side note, I just realized that Stroke of Genius was in your maybeboard and it's $5. Maybe it was always like that, but I could've sworn when I first got my set it was only like $1.50 or something, maybe even less. Very unfortunate. :^(
1 week ago
Never got a notification for this for some reason hmmmmm.. I might be a bit late but I'm definitely happy to help. :^)
Starting with your lands, they look pretty solid. This is SUPER nitpicky, but Path of Ancestry doesn't feel like a good fit here. This deck isn't exactly a tribal, and it only has 7 cards it can scry off of. It may give you any color you need, but the coming in tapped bit would make me steer clear. The decision is totally up to you though because it isn't necessarily a bad card, but just keep in mind I'm really finicky when it comes to mana coming in tapped lol. Alchemist's Refuge and Emergence Zone might be fun picks. Dropping 1000 1000/1000 Oozes or Wurms on your turn is certainly good, but even better would be your opponent's end step. >:^)
Your ramp might need a little more focusing between the auras, dorks, and rocks. I might recommend a few more rocks in Talisman of Curiosity and Talisman of Resilience, but I think auras are going to be your focus considering your untap synergies, so more cards like Wild Growth, Wolfwillow Haven, Overgrowth, and Verdant Haven would make for nice additions. That being said, I think the dorks should probably come out, along with maybe your more expensive auras Dawn's Reflection and Market Festival. Ramp cards that in my opinion definitely need to come out are Heartbeat of Spring and Dictate of Karametra purely because of their symmetry. Group hug effects like these are super dangerous, and I really don't think you need them in order to pull off your strat. That being said, I think you should cut Tidal Barracuda for similar reasons. Giving people flash is risky, even if they can't cast stuff on your turn.
Card draw suggestions I would make for now would be to consider targeted X draw spells like Blue Sun's Zenith and Stroke of Genius instead of Mind Spring, as they can also be used with infinite mana to deck your opponents. Brainstorm is almost always a good addition. I also think cutting Gadwick, the Wizened wouldn't be a bad move. He's difficult to cast outside of having infinite blue mana and he doesn't really have the best synergy with the rest of your deck.
For your removal I would suggest perhaps adding in some lower CMC options like Pongify or Rapid Hybridization as nice cheap spot removal. Dismember or Tragic Slip are also nice black options that get around indestructible. Any removal will do, really, and so it's again all up to you. I just like these a lot.
I'll leave it at that for now, and when you've made changes we can figure out what else needs to be added/cut. :^)
1 week ago
The rest are cards I figured would fit nicely or are extra mana generation in case Kydele can't get off the ground.
3 weeks ago
Gamble and Intuition are a bit harder to recommend a 1x1 exchange of cards, as both of them would really like you to also run Underworld Breach (note that Intuition is already super busted on its own), so I'd suggest putting Breach in as well. I Suggest removing Thought Scour, Reality Spasm, and Pirate's Pillage. My reasoning for these choices is that I believe they are cards that don't really perform very well on the deck and can be taken out for this package. Pirate's Pillage nets you 1 mana when you have Mizzix out and that's very nice, but if you got Mizzix out with 3 counters already you're very much on your way to winning the game, while on other situations this card doensn't feel very nice, especially if it is countered. Reality Spasm also nets you mana, but you need Mizzix out with 3+ counters for that and if that's the case you can probably search your Turnabout. Thought Scour just wasn't doing enough for me, messing up a tutor now and then is nice, but most of the time I just wish I could have used this 1 mana for something else.
Underworld Breach wins you the game with Bonus Round and Frantic Search. Cast Bonus Round and then Frantic Search, with your floating mana cast Breach and the Frantic Search from the grave. Each cast will net you 1 mana and 1 extra card in the grave, envetually you'll find Reiterate and Seething Song, generate infinite mana returning Reiterate to your hand with buyback and mill everyone with Stroke of Genius or whatever. As p0megranates eloquently explains on the guide, once you get to this point winning the game is easy.
For Intuition you'll probably want to check the deck to see if there is a 3 card pile that wins you the game, as of right now I don't think so. But adding Mizzix's Mastery enables the following pile:Mizzix's Mastery, Past in Flames, Enter the Infinite.
If they give you Enter the Infinite, flashback Past in Flames, flashback Intuition searching Faithless Looting or Frantic Search or any discard outlet. Discard Enter the Infinite and flashback Mizzix's Mastery for Enter the Infinite.
3 weeks ago
Hey, for less than $150 you've done well with your version. You clearly know how to build a Commander deck with a low budget.
Cards that are $3 or less each to consider adding:
- Tutors: Scion of the Ur-Dragon, Sarkhan's Triumph, Shared Summons, Crop Rotation
- Draw: Temur Ascendancy, Dragonlord Ojutai(Mystery Booster version)
- Ramp: Faeburrow Elder
- Lands: Cascading Cataracts, Haven of the Spirit Dragon, Unclaimed Territory, Sunken Hollow, Prairie Stream
Scion of the Ur-Dragon is a very good Dragon as a repeatable Dragon tutor and it combos with Teneb, the Harvester + Bladewing the Risen to reanimate the Dragons you tutor for. Consider cutting some of the least good Dragons for a few creature tutors that can search for the better Dragons?
Temur Ascendancy does a lot for a three drop, haste for all creatures you control and repeatable draw when most Dragons ETB including Dragon tokens with 4 or more power. These land suggestions would add five more lands that can ETB untapped meaning they could replace five lands that always ETB tapped. Cascading Cataracts is helpful with Jodah/Fist letting you for five mana of any colors plus tapping Cataracts to cast any card.
Cards to consider cutting:
- Vivid Crag
- Vivid Creek
- Vivid Grove
- Vivid Marsh
- Vivid Meadow
- Make a Stand
- Stroke of Genius
- Distant Melody
- Hedron Archive
- Boneyard Scourge
- Tyrant's Familiar
- Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury
Even on a budget the Vivid lands are not good unless you have proliferate to put more counters on them and I don't recommend adding proliferate just for the Vivids.
Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
Some cards that you might like: Brallin, Skyshark Rider Flip, Shabraz, the Skyshark, Rielle, the Everwise, The Locust God, Psychosis Crawler, Burning Inquiry, Molten Psyche, Narset, Parter of Veils, Alms Collector, a Niv-Mizzet of your choice perhaps, Fevered Visions, Magus of the Jar, Wheel of Fate, Teferi's Puzzle Box, Winds of Change and I'll stop myself there lol.
Something you could do that might be cool would be to run a lot of cards like Dictate of Kruphix, Kami of the Crescent Moon, and Howling Mine to boost everybody's draw (might make them consider not killing you lol). That would rip the rug out from under everybody and make your wheels that much more impactful. Make them discard 12 cards instead of 6 or 7! Plus you're getting them closer to drawing on an empty deck.
As far as card draw goes, my favorites are targeted X spells like Blue Sun's Zenith and Stroke of Genius as they could always be upgraded to kill tools with an infinite source of mana i.e. Dramatic Reversal + Isochron Scepter and I just like them a lot. If you decided to pursue group draw you could also experiment with stuff like Prosperity, Minds Aglow, and Fascination (you said you like options right?). Along with this I would add to your ability to win off of self mill with Thassa's Oracle and Jace, Wielder of Mysteries so that Lab Man has some friends.
I know you're running some recursion yourself but this deck has the potential to seriously fuel opposing decks with heavy graveyard interaction as their motif, for obvious reasons lol. Since you have have access to white you could always try Rest in Peace for the complete shutdown, and then maybe a Grafdigger's Cage just as another piece of graveyard hate. Alternatively, you might prefer cards with one time effects like Relic of Progenitus and Scavenger Grounds.. or you could mix and match! Up to you.
FINALLY, (yes I know, we're finally at the end) I would honestly just replace many of the dual lands you have that come in tapped with basics. I just personally don't enjoy having my lands come in tapped while everyone else gets ahead, and I really feel like basics are actually better than tapped lands even if they don't have the versatility or effects. Of course shocks and duals and fetches would always be nice, but we're trying to stay in budget so I'd just stick to the basics.
I know it's long but I just really enjoy researching cards and learning about different strats so I usually get carried away. I tried to stick with recommendations that stay under $10 but a few over the limit might've slipped through. I like your deck, hope this helped! :^)
1 month ago
This is good stuff. You've pretty much got all the good mill you'd want in a deck like this. Here's a list of things I'd take out and put in and I'll explain after:
Take out - 1 Arcane Denial, 2 Nyx Lotus, 3 Sky Diamond, 4 Soul-Guide Lantern, 5 Tribute Mage, 6 Solemn Simulacrum, 7 Fraying Sanity, 8 Fleet Swallower or 9 Sphinx Mindbreaker, 10 Reality Shift, 11 Dig Through Time.
I'll try to be brief with all of this. For 1 I think Muddle is better for your deck, especially if you decide to add in Grindstone + Painter's Servant . 2 I don't think is a great source of ramp (It costs 4 mana to cast AND comes in tapped AND you aren't even guaranteed to get value out of it. It all depends on whether or not you're having a good game. You could play this turn 4, not get to use it til turn 5 since it's tapped, AND still maybe only get 1 or 2 mana out of it. Oh, and because of its high cost it's going to be a juicy target for removal. If it gets blown up you basically just skipped a turn. So much for being brief huh lol). 3 same as 2. Extraplanar Lens (not at all a budget buy I know) is killer in mono decks with snow lands, and you've already got the snows. Sapphire Medallion would just be better than 3. 4 you have enough graveyard hate. 5 you don't have impactful enough 2 cost artifacts to warrant this. Also Muddle. 6 you have enough ramp and don't need to mana fix. 7 I just feel is too targeted and might turn you into the table's bad guy if you weren't already. I'd just focus on the effects that apply to everyone or don't necessarily only apply to one player. 8 and 9 I don't feel like these are particularly necessary for winning but they're big and fun so I'd keep one and lose the other. 10 I just don't think you need. 11 some of your mills synergize with drawing and this doesn't draw. Good card, but I think for you Stroke of Genius and Blue Sun's Zenith will do you better. Additionally they can be combined with invite mana i.e. Dramatic Reversal + Isochron Scepter to mill out your opponents or mill out yourself. Crawlspace and Propaganda I feel do too much for you to pass up. I know you already have one of them in your maybeboard, but I think you need more defensive cards in your 99 so you don't get tag teamed as soon as you drop some of your more threatening toys. You know as soon as you play something like Mindcrank or Mesmeric Orb or hell even your commander, the table probably isn't going to be cool with you doing that lol. You just want to make attacking you a pain and use counters to handle the rest. Finally, Thassa's Oracle is good for self mill.
Sorry if I'm a bit all over the place, but I wrote this little by little throughout the day in between doing different things so I'd have to keep coming back and remember where I was and yeah lol. Hope I helped though. It's a cool deck and I'd hope to at least give you some ideas to work with. :^)