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Stroke of Genius
Target player draws X cards.
Stroke of Genius Discussion
6 days ago
Nah I just want to see and x=39 Death Cloud with each opponent on 40 life, who am I kidding.
1 week ago
Here's a pretty good list of what I'd tweak:
Add - Breya, Etherium Shaper , Revel in Riches , Vampiric Tutor / Demonic Tutor / Diabolic Tutor etc., Forced Fruition , Master of the Feast , Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas , Stroke of Genius , Anvil of Bogardan , Howling Mine , Howling Golem , Copy Enchantment , Blinkmoth Urn , Broodstar
Remove - Daretti, Scrap Savant , Laboratory Maniac , Coveted Jewel , Flux (nobody will choose to do it), Psychosis Crawler (YOU don't necessarily draw enough), Alhammarret's Archive (costs too much mana for a do-nothing), Sunbird's Invocation , Oath of Teferi (too niche), Chandra Ablaze (on the fence, just a lot of mana), Propaganda / Ghostly Prison / Sphere of Safety (unless you're in a super-aggro meta)
2 weeks ago
irotpigs Yes! The primary win condition is decking everyone with Blue Sun's Zenith but when that isn't an option (like if it has been removed from the game) the alternative way to win is by using Stroke of Genius , shuffling it in with Time Spiral , re-drawing it, casting it again, and recurring it with Snapcaster Mage for the third time to deck everyone.
2 weeks ago
One thing that is very important for an EDH mill deck are instant speed targeted player draw spells Stroke of Genius Blue Sun's Zenith Geier Reach Sanitarium Mikokoro, Center of the Sea even Words of Wisdom .
2 weeks ago
Just so you know as long as you have enough mana you can take infinite turns with cards like Beacon of Tomorrows and Nexus of Fate since they shuffle back into your library and you can just re tutor them every turn. That allows you to win off of upkeep triggers or just infinite loyalty abilities on planeswalkers like Jace Beleren Jace, the Mind Sculptor Jace, Cunning Castaway . Or you can slowly assemble other combo pieces like Rings of Brighthearth and Basalt Monolith and search up and use cards like Stroke of Genius to win.
4 weeks ago
Shimmer/ Paradox Engine allows for mass, instant speed storm, at an insane ease. Yisan, while being better with Engine (untapping Yisan allows for fetching Llanowar Elves into Priest of Titania into Shimmer Myr into Temur Sabertooth or whatever, then keep untapping Yisan to go off until Great Oak Guardian then Sabertooth into infinite mana) still isn't an instant-speed spell, that is the issue. If the gamplan can be Swords to Plowshares ed at sorcery speed, the deck is doing something wrong.
If, just by playing lands, maybe a dork or some rocks, and passing, drawing cards, biding your time until the winning combo or impossibly difficult to win through lock hits the table, respond by casting everything you need to until you win.
This playstyle is Legacy Resetide ( Reset / High Tide with untap effects and a deck made up of Islands and instants, ready to storm until it casts a lethal Stroke of Genius on the opponent). I simply wanted to see if it was possible to accomplish a similar playstyle in Yeva.
You can't build Resetide in EDH because there isn't the consistency of running 7 Resets and 7 Tides (Legacy uses Cunning Wish as a playset for the 7 copies of every card in the deck it needs), nor can it even run enough instant speed draw and untap and ramp to pull it off without them, so mono-blue is out.
Zur can storm off at instant speed using Necropotence and Shimmer Myr , however doesn't have the luxury of doing it at anytime but on their own endstep, making it not a true-instant speed storm, as it can't do it in repsonse to an opponent winning on the opponent's turn.
Yeva, this list, can do it, only given a good hand and a lot of mana, but it can, with GoG and Cat. That was my interest in the deck. The issue was getting Cat, dorks that tapped for enough, and GoG, the mana to go off, and the interaction/protection to pull it all off.
Yeva was a long-shot, but if any deck could do it, Yeva seems like the one. The issue I found immediatly was wincon-lightness and tutor-lightness. The Cloudstone Curio , Paradox Engine wincons of the deck only go off at sorcery speed, so have big issues, however Shimmer Myr solves that, and allows for Walking Ballista , Candelabra of Tawnos (for Gaea's Cradle ), and more rocks to go off. The issue again is tutoring for that, then for the new combos. If this list had the tutor-density that a 3 color list like Zur would, it would work amazingly. As is, it just doesn't get there.
I am going to work further on this and try to get it to work, but Soren841 may be right that this is too difficult to accomplish.
Resetide may have friends in Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir . I may put some time into testing him out. That 5 mana cost is my biggest issue.
1 month ago
For Circu especially in a draw go type of style, I rely more on the burst draw type of cards or windmill type. So cards like Windfall and Whispering Madness are my shoe in. As well as Pull from Tomorrow , Stroke of Genius , and Blue Sun's Zenith . The burst draw they give even when X=3 is quite powerful. Other than that, card draw engines are next on priority list.
1 month ago
As of cards to add and relatively budget: (also your deck wants to have alot of instant speed/flash stuff, always leave your mana up to plays spells not on your turn or float the mana if nothing important happened.
Tatyova, Benthic Druid
Blue Sun's Zenith
Stroke of Genius
Pull from Tomorrow
Kydele, Chosen of Kruphix
Curse of the Swine
Nezahal, Primal Tide
Stroke of Genius occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.03%
U/R (Izzet): 0.47%