|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Duel Decks: Elves vs. Inventors (DDU)||None|
|Masters 25 (A25)||Uncommon|
|MTG: Commander (CMD)||Common|
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Creature — Elf
When Fierce Empath enters the battlefield, you may search your library for a creature card with converted mana cost 6 or more, reveal it, and put it into your hand. Then shuffle your library.
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Fierce Empath Discussion
1 week ago
Very cool! What do you think of these? Sporemound , Seed the Land , Lotus Cobra , Amulet of Vigor , Animist's Awakening , Genesis Wave , Collective Voyage , New Frontiers , Traverse the Outlands , Farhaven Elf , Wood Elves , Yavimaya Dryad , Helm of the Host , Fierce Empath , Woodland Bellower
1 week ago
Lots of nice things here.
Palinchron goes infinite with Yarok, so I'd recommend that.
I think Villainous Wealth is just a bad card. I think there a better things to be doing with infinite mana. Without infinite mana it's just not strong enough unless X = 15 or something. And in that case I would rather play Torment of Hailfire .
Vivien, Champion of the Wilds gives creatures flash, but that's already granted by Leyline of Anticipation and Alchemist's Refuge . I don't think you need a 3rd redundant effect like this. Vivien is also much more vulnerable than these two other cards.
Force of Negation can be replaced with Swan Song and I think it would just be better. Force of Negation is a strong card, but I don't think you need to be concerned with it unless your deck is angled towards having 1) tons of blue cards and 2) wants to counter many things.
I think your list doesn't contain enough ramp.
2 weeks ago
This is radical. Is City of Shadows outside the budget? You might consider these too: Opalescence , Concentrate , Foster , Cold Storage , Fierce Empath , Phyrexian Vault , Seedborn Muse , Awakening , Aphetto Alchemist
3 weeks ago
Hey, I have a different opinion.
I think only Shalai is worth adding because she can help to protect the creature combos, Ghired, yourself, she's a flying creature and she's not a five drop. It's not that other three five drops are bad cards they're just not worth adding since there's other cards that can help your deck more. There's already nine five drops in your deck which is too much. If you were to add another five drop then my advice is to cut a five drop. There's plenty of lower mana cost protection already: Intervention, Charm, Rootborn, Escort.
Shared Summons for example is a better five drop for your deck then Muse, Asceticism, Privileged, Tendershoot, Oketra, Frostfang, Packleader because it can tutor for the creature combos. Your deck is a combo deck, but it lacks tutors which can find the combos or better cards. Eladamri's Call is great, but it's the only tutor in your deck...
The about $30 price of the four cards combined could be used in other ways. An option would be to upgrade the manabase with more playable dual lands. Getting a Temple Garden , Stomping Ground and Canopy Vista for instance makes the good land ramp spells: Nature's Lore , Wood Elves and Farseek nice options. Another option that's better for $30 is get an Enlightened Tutor and Eternal Witness to recur a tutor or any other card.
Helm of the Host is a big part of the combos, but you don't have any way to tutor for it other than six drop Godo. Gamble , Open the Armory or Enlightened Tutor can all do more than Muse, Asceticism or Privileged. Fierce Empath , a less than $1 card, can do more for your deck then Muse, Asceticism or Privileged.
Tutor options (budget or expensive) to consider adding:
3 weeks ago
Hey, nice brew for a budget deck.
One drop mana dorks are good with Oviya because they count toward her second ability and can be ramp to pay for her abilities.
Adding mana dorks can reduce the 3.8 avg. CMC which is high. Avenger of Zendikar is your best finisher who makes tokens. Consider some tutors to get Avenger? Consider including cards that make Avenger better?
- Fierce Empath : tutor and a creature.
- Shared Summons and/or Primal Command : tutor.
- Temur Sabertooth : bounce and a mana sink.
- Champion of Lambholt : make tokens unblockable, she triggers for each token that's created.
- Eternal Witness and/or Regrowth : recursion.
Hornet Queen is a powerful creature who can make flying tokens the turn you play her. That's really what you want when you play a high mana cost creature, not have to wait until your next turn to get any value at all. Avenger, Battlesphere, Regal, Queen is good top of the mana curve for your deck. Instead of playing other high mana cost creatures play budget tutors that can get you these better creatures into your hand?
Avenger, Battlesphere, Regal, Queen are all good with Sabertooth and making Sabertooth better is helpful in green. There's many other creatures here that are good with Sabertooth such as Wolfbriar and Sage.
Cards to consider cutting:
- Thopter Assembly
- Giant Adephage
- Explosive Vegetation
- Ranger's Path
- Kodama's Reach
- Altar of Dementia
- Aid from the Cowl
- Dictate of Karametra
- Predatory Urge
- From Beyond
Vegetation and Path is four drop land ramp which is not needed when you have so much three drop land ramp. Beyond is lackluster for a four drop if all it can do is make one 1/1 Eldrazi token each turn. Blisterpod is the only Eldrazi here and it's not worth sacing Beyond to tutor for.
3 weeks ago
VietMoneys, it's tutorable with Fierce Empath and is a way to go infinite with Selvala/Karametra's Acolyte and sabertooth (the latter option only if you have a lot of devotion). Definitely a flex slot since I rarely actually play it. I'm probably going to swap it out for the new Vivien Planeswalker.
3 weeks ago
ADD: Cold-Eyed Selkie Heroic Intervention Wood Elves Kamahl, Fist of Krosa Fierce Empath Song of the Dryads Bane of Progress Tishana, Voice of Thunder Natural Order Coat of Arms Hinterland Harbor Craterhoof Behemoth
After looking over your list I've picked out some cards that I would cut if it were my deck, but if you like them then play them anyways. You definitely need more win cons so I've suggested some cards that will allow you to convert your board advantage into a win. Craterhoof would find a home in this deck for certain but if that isn't your style then maybe Coat of Arms might be more your thing. Tishana, Voice of Thunder would also be a really good addition to this deck with all the card advantage she provides and the no maximum hand size is always nice. Also I suggested Song of the Dryads as good removal but also as a cute little way to give your opponent a Forest to use all your Forestwalk abilities. If you have any questions about any of the suggestions or cuts feel free to ask.
3 weeks ago
Hey, Sol Ring is a staple mana rock in Commander. Ancestral Statue can by itself put a lot of counters on Animar. After it's on the battlefield it can bounce itself back to your hand and since it's mana cost is colorless then four counters on Animar makes it free to cast. Neoform and Eldritch Evolution after sacing a two drop or three drop creature are budget ways to tutor for Statue and put it onto the battlefield.
Fierce Empath occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.05%