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Retreat to Kazandu
Landfall — Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, choose one —
- Put a +1/+1 counter on target creature.
- You gain 2 life.
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Retreat to Kazandu Discussion
3 weeks ago
Also I would consider using Animation Module over Servant of the Conduit as you don't have too many sources to spend the energy on. Although I know it does help with costs, you already have Rishkar for that. This card happens to work rather well with Metallic Mimic.
If you wanted to instead of Servant of the Conduit, you always could splash black for Winding Constrictor. Then add some swamps over some of your forests, add Aether Hub and or Attune with Aether as well as some Blooming Marshs which I believe you had in your modern elves deck.
4 weeks ago
PTD Thanks! I am still working on edits here and there (just added aether hub) but overall this is a fun and fairly finalized version. Maybe I'll use more Retreat to Valakut or add some Retreat to Kazandu. Overall, cheap and potentially FNM good.
1 month ago
WrathofCod I switched to Omnath, Locus of Rage because he is a very powerful general. He does have a significantly higher mana cost than Mina and Denn, but what he does is worth the high mana cost. Plus I use a ton of ramp in the deck, allowing me to get him out with ease.
Glacial Chasm is a great card to abuse with M&D because you can play it, then bounce it back with their ability an play it when the board isn't in your favor. If you are worried about the lands being sacc'd, you can play cards like Splendid Reclamation or Groundskeeper; or if you have it, Crucible of Worlds.
I like any card that gives you a body whenever you play a land (for chump blocking and attacking), which is why I suggested Sporemound. It does, however, have amazing synergy with Perilous Forays, as you can sac the tokens produced by Rampaging Baloths, Angry Omnath and the mound for a large number of landfall triggers (it's super awesome when you have another token generator out). If you want to be able to fetch out every basic land in your deck, you can combine Perilous Forays with Amulet of Vigor and Lotus Cobra; and to a lesser extent, Stone-Seeder Hierophant. Fertilid does a similar thing with Retreat to Kazandu as the above combo, but requires more mana.
Descent of the Dragons is a fantastic board wipe imo! I was considering adding into Angry Omnath because you can attack with your elementals and then main phase 2 blowing them up with Descent and bolt people to death. In this deck, I think it'll be pretty good if you have a bunch of 1/1 creatures out since you can attack, and then blow them up for 4/4 fliers. There are some other board wipes that would be good in this deck, such as Blasphemous Act, so depending on how you feel, I think the latter should be considered first but the former is a great option too.
I think the eldrazi do pretty well in here, as you can play land/ramp into tokens and then play those, I think it'd require a bit of testing, so it depends on the outcome of games. Oblivion Sower has synergy, allowing you to play lands that you exiled with him for more landfall triggers.
For cuts, I'd recommend cutting mana dorks since you mainly want to ramp via lands due to the value you get from them. This also allows the deck to be less reliant on your commander too. Burning-Tree Emissary seems rather mediocre for EDH (she's amazing in Modern and Pauper though haha), along with Plummet and Naturalize. Paragon of Eternal Wilds also seems a tad mediocre from its boost and effect (you have Skarrg Guildmage to give all your creatures trample).
This deck is coming together very well, no problem and thanks for the upvote on the primer!
1 month ago
@ Triton It is so great to hear from another Mina and Denn, Wildborn player like yourself! First of all, I just want to say thanks for linking your incredibly helpful and detailed primer on this subject! After reading it, I already felt like I knew more about Mina and Denn, Wildborn and it gave me some great ideas as far as what to add into my existing deck! Just wondering, why did you switch to Omnath, Locus of Rage as you commander? I was under the impression that he would make a worse commander due to the fact that he is more expensive, requires more colored mana and is often seen as a big threat around the table. While I love Glacial Chasm as a card and I understand why it is good, I don't understand why I should run it in this deck. I was under the assumption that the goal of a M and D deck was to ramp up as fast as possible, use the gained mana and resources to play big creatures and then win through combat damage. Since Glacial Chasm stops you from attacking, what scenario would you want to have it in? Rampaging Baloths and Zendikar's Roil just arrived in the mail, so I will be adding both to my deck ASAP! Why do you choose to include Sporemound? I could be wrong, but I feel like the effect is too low-impact to affect the outcome of a game. The same thing with Retreat to Kazandu. While gaining 2 life and +1/+1 counters are nice, I don't know how often that would decide the outcome of a game. Akoum Hellkite and Horn of Greed are two great suggestions that I will definitely include once I order them or find them in my binder! What do you think about Descent of the Dragons? One of the guys in my play group recently stomped the table by comboing Avenger of Zendikar and Descent of the Dragons with a haste enabler on the board. It is now one of my pet cards that I think might be cool to include in this deck. In fact if I choose to include Sporemound, I will definitely try to include Descent of the Dragons because of the amazing synergy the two have together. How do you feel about some of the bigger Eldrazi I have in here? The original goal was to ramp into something like Kozilek, the Great Distortion, refill my hand and then stomp the table, but since this seems to be gravitating towards more of a landfall strat, I don't know how you feel about having a lot of big fatties to close out the game. Are there any more obscure cards that people maybe wouldn't think of that could go in this deck? One of my quirks as a player is wanting to use niche cards in the most competitive way possible to hopefully beat other more "meta decks." This could be something like the aforementioned Descent of the Dragons or a Guttural Response (for any Cyclonic Rifts or unexpected counterspells)! Lastly, do you have any suggestions for cuts? I always have trouble deciding what to cut, but I have no problem finding cool cards that I want to add! It would be an absolute boon if you could maybe suggest 6-7 cards to get rid of in order to refine my deck! Thanks again for all the help and have a great day!
P.S. I just wanted to say that your primer on the twins was absolutely awesome; definite +1 from me!
1 month ago
Ah I see you updated this, my iPad had died before I hot to share my suggestions, and it looks like you added a bunch of them. Here is what I was going to share, you may even find something you may want that you had missed.
Omnath, Locus of Mana instead as your command perhaps, Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger, Mana Reflection, Beacon of Creation, Exploration, Burgeoning, Boundless Realms, Primeval Titan, Beacon of Discovery, Primeval Bounty, Retreat to Kazandu, Zendikar's Roil, Lotus Cobra, Explore Gaea's Touch, Rampaging Baloths, Ulvenwald Hydra + Rogue's Passage, Avenger of Zendikar, Embodiment of Insight, Courser of Kruphix, Dungrove Elder, Kalonian Twingrove.
For lands have Rogue's Passage, Myriad Landscape, Reliquary Tower and make use of Rishkar's Expertise, Nissa's Revelation and other similar effects, Oran-Rief, the Vastwood, then just forests wil do unless you want to go with Eldrazi then use Shrine of the Forsaken Gods, Sanctum of Ugin, Eye of Ugin and so on too.
I will try and help out with cutting down your creatures soon, you can if you want share decklists with others if you look within "edit" so that I am able to make changes to this deck otherwise I will do up something separate. The thing is, is that green is pretty good at making token related cards and that's why you can get away with a lot less creatures, and the ones you do have can be big such as Kozilek, Butcher of Truth for example.
1 month ago
Mina and Denn were my first deck too, and I stuck to them for a while before moving onto Omnath, Locus of Rage. I'd recommend land ramp, such as Cultivate and Kodama's Reach over mana rocks. Of course include Sol Ring, though haha. Mina and Denn can also abuse lots of cool lands too. Glacial Chasm is very good, and also Gaea's Cradle if you have a kidney to spare. :p
One other thing I'd advise are landfall effects. The token producers, such as Angry Omnath, Rampaging Baloths, Zendikar's Roil and Sporemound are all very nice, since you get an extra 2 bodies a turn. Akoum Hellkite is nice, along with Horn of Greed (you benefit off of it more than your opponents and it's a deter for them to attack you) and Retreat to Kazandu.
Here's my deck when I built them, feel free to take a look for inspiration and ideas.
Commander / EDH
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Hope these suggestions help!
1 month ago
1 month ago
Just a quick question, if I had Life and Limb on the field with Retreat to Kazandu, and played Sprout for example, would that indeed trigger Retreat to Kazandu, as the token is a land? I think that's correct, but I like to make sure.