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Mind Spring Discussion
1 week ago
Now I know, both Cadaverous Bloom and Squandered Resources are not modern legal, but we have both Fascination and Mind Spring to act as Prosperity. Is there any way to convert cards into mana like the days of old? Please don't suggest Inner Fire unless you have a decklist that can reasonably prove to me that it can be used in this kind of shell. Thanks!
1 month ago
My commander deck right now is CVT Teferi, and it’s pretty darn close to tier 1, so I have some suggestions. Im assuming your taking suggestions since you have it tagged as needing help.
Force of will, ugin, static orb, cursed totem, BSZ, grim monolith, transmute/Power arti, rewind, mana vault/crypt, gilded lotus
1) What I would take out
A: Forbid is a good counterpell, but bad in this deck. You don’t want to empty your hand that much to get a non-free counterspell back to your hand. You definitely want a full hand.
B: Jace, Architect of Thought doesn’t do anything in your deck unless he ults, and he’s probably not going to in a competitive meta.
C: Everflowing Chalice is a decent ramp card, but it’s definitely not the best one, and the fact that it only turns on the CV combo of you play it T4 means it’s not super viable.
D: Paradox Engine. Amazing card, and I considered putting it in my deck, but CVT can win pretty easily without it, and engine only adds a small amount of synergy and combo to what is played in the deck to the point that I would rather play another stax piece.
F: Unwinding Clock doesn’t do a whole lot in the deck and doesn’t turn on the combo.
G: Mind Spring is better replaced with any instant speed draw x or any target player draw x
I: The creature teferi. Although he’s great against other counter decks, since CVT plays free counters and usually uses them to protect the combo, and creature teferi’s first ability is useless in the deck, and there aren’t a lot of competitive counter decks other than CVT out there, he’s not super good and it would be better to just play Dispel.
2) what I would put in
I’m not sure what your budget is so this might seem very overpriced.
B: Ugin, the Spirit Dragon is played in a lot of competitive CVT decks, because he basically locks down creature decks like sisay (board wipe the turn he comes down and bolt sisay whenever they try to play him)
G: Transmute Artifact allows you to go for the combo easily
H: Power Artifact goes infinite with basalt monolith or grim monolith.
I: Extraplanar Lens acts as a static high tide, ramping You whenever you play teferi.
J: Rewind is possibly a good counter choice as it allows you to leave only four mana up and be able to respond twice.
1 month ago
2 months ago
I run a Saheeli, the Gifted list with the same goal that is very consistent if you wanted to check it out. How does this deck usually play out?
I run a few X spells such Braingeyser and Mind Spring as they scale with Saheeli. Goblin Welder is cheaper than Trash for Treasure. It is also repeatable and can target other peoples graveyards. I think Scrap Trawler is better than Myr Retriever because it will give a similar effect to all of your artifacts so you are constantly cycling when something dies. Plus if a board wipe happens you will likely replace a few things that died earlier and be in a better position to rebuild.
Since you are running Mycosynth Lattice I would also run Darksteel Forge. It makes everything you have indestructible. Running that with Padeem, Consul of Innovation will give everything you have hexproof in addtion to indestructible.
Do you get much use out of Storm the Vault? Its been a dead card in my hand evey game. I always already have the mana to drop an Eldrazi so it just seems like extra.
I almost forgot Master Transmuter can change out your Servos for Blightsteel Colossus or any other artifact you have. She can also do it in response to someone trying to kill an artifact. You can just flop it for something else in your hand in response and then drop it again the next turn.
I like the inclusion of Reality Shift. It is definitely going to find a home in my own deck.
Have fun playing! I think Saheeli is a lot better than people give her credit for.
2 months ago
2 months ago
Can I just say that Memnarch is bad. If your play group doesn't like combo then they won't like Memnarch. The risk/reward profile is way too high for it as a card. It draws far too much hate for the value it generates. Plus outside of combo it is clunky and terrible.
The other issue is that Memnarch is not an "I win" button like USZ is. Just like Villainous Wealth, you haven't actually won the game yet. You still need to do something with him. Yes. I know that you control all the permanents on the battlefield however if you're going to combo, you may as well just play something that outright wins.
On the topic of Blue Sun's Zenith vs Mind Spring, inside of combo USZ is much better. Once you have drawn your deck it will be the only card left in it and your hand will be full of defender creatures. Simply cast one of them, draw USZ and then play it. Then rinse and repeat for all the rest of the opponents at the table. With Mind Spring, you need to set up some sort of graveyard recursion loop which you may not be able to do if Eternal Witness is in the yard.
2 months ago
I just skim lists usually, but I still think Mind Spring is better than mnmnmnmmnmnnnmnmmnmmnnmnnnmnarch
2 months ago
I like that idea, except I would play Mind Spring instead because it is card draw and you always want card draw weather you have infinite mana or not and memnark is way too durdly without making 100s of mana and doesn't support the walls theme, while Mind Spring will draw walls and help after a board wipe.
Also since you should be playing eternal witness I don't think the shuffle into deck on Blue Sun's Zenith is worth drawing 1 less card most of the time, and as I said, you should be able to win with infinite mana and your deck in your hand no matter what, throw in a haste effect like createrhoof or concorted crossroads if you wand to garauntee winning, (unless someone responds by playing Terminus on your turn. If you suspect something like this or if someone may have a fog (or just always because why not), draw all but 1 card of your deck, then first thing you do is play Eternal Witness to get back your mind spring in case you have to rebuild from something like a combat trick into Hallowed Burial, or if people play Vedalken Orrery. While this is unlikely, I have hosed people by doing this before and there is no reason not to be safe. Another option is Temur Sabertooth which does silly things when you have absurd amounts of mana by duplicating etb effects like createrhoof.