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Whenever Trygon Predator deals combat damage to a player, you may destroy target artifact or enchantment that player controls.
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Trygon Predator Discussion
1 week ago
I hope you don’t mind, I’d like to make this the base of my next cube project. A skeleton if you’re cool with it.
2 weeks ago
2 months ago
3 months ago
Hi, it's me, another Rafiq-player
So, I took a look into your deck. I see you have gone more equipment/aura-heavy approach than me, and so way more straight forward voltron-tactic. I really like how you utilize many of the new creatures and equipments from latest commander sets.
Here are couple of my observations from you deck:-You have very little card draw/cantrips-You have very little removal and protection (you are playing blue, play couple of counterspells)-You play multiple cards that give +1/+1 for your creatures, but you actually play just couple of creatures and very little token creation. You also want to attack only with one creature so i find this irrelevant (yes, you need blockers aswell, but with more control (removal, counterspells, cantrips) this could be solved)
Also option is to go kinda creature-heavy Rafiq deck and play stuff like Avenger of Zendikar but it just seems worse.
Lets start with Balan. I kinda see why he is in there. I mean, he is 2nd Rafiq if you cant get him out on the field but otherwise first strike and doulbestrike are pointless abilites. Yes, attathcing all equipments is nice, but in my opinion he is just not generally worth.
Second, as I mentioned in my decks comment section, I generally think that playing card only for the exalted trigger is bad and you shouldn't do it. This applies to both Rhox Charger, Sigiled Paladin.
Then there is Venser. Yes, he can give unblockable, but is there any other reason to play him? You don't seem to get enough value from his blink-ability to make him worth.
Lastly Sigil of Valor. Again, you play very little amount of creatures. Yes, this could pump creature a ton, but it is so called winmore-card: you need to have something else on the board in addition to this and equipped creature for this to work.
I'd suggest considering some protection, such as Counterspell, Lightning Greaves and Hinder, some removal, such as Swords to Plowshares, Beast Within, Capsize and Trygon Predator, some catrips, such as Think Twice, Ponder, Preordain, Mystic Remora, some ulitity, such as Bant Charm and maybe some control, such as Wrath of God and Day of Judgment.
3 months ago
Thanks kamelyan for your comment and suggestions.
So first things first. As i said in the description, I actually have played most of the cards you mentioned/suggested. At the very beginning, when I made the deck, I actually ran all the swords and couple of other equipments, such as Loxodon Warhammer. I also had pretty much all of the multicolor enchantments from the cycle, where Shield of the Oversoul is from. Problem only was, that if rafiq got removed, or I drew mix of swords with protections and multicolor enchants, I couldn't use use both of them, since they countered eachother. So eventually I decided to run very specific equipment package, only to support voltron, not to power it up. Also equipments are re-equipable (WOW) compared to kinda one-time-use auras.
Then for the creatures and other cards. I've, again, played all of them. I just found, that with voltron-deck Battlegrace Angel is irrelevant, because lifegain and +1/+1 are too significant buffs, since you want always be ahead on board and thus you will most of the time stay ahead in life aswell (yes, there is Baneslayer Angel in the deck, but that is from pure flavor reasons :D). What comes to the other exalted cards you mentioned, again, I found that you want to be ahead on board and Cathedral of War is just too slow (it produces colorless mana AND becomes into play tapped). Same with Giltspire Avenger, just too slow and interactive. You always want to be the aggressor. Play cards like Trygon Predator or Rhystic Study for 3 mana for instant effects on board and enemy gameplay, be proactive
And to the last card. Shadow Rift is actually pretty sweet surprise effect. It also cantrips, which is huge. It still is only one time use AND still blockable. If you compare it to already 2 existing cards in my deck, Thassa, God of the Sea and Rogue's Passage, which both are effects that carry over multiple turns and Thassa kinda cantrips every turn with scry and has a possibility to be a creature, I just dont see any reason to play less effective unblockable-effects, than already existing ones.
Oh, and considering your suggestions, what cards i should be replacing? I'd like to hear you comment and thoughts about that (you know, i cant have more than 100 cards in CDMR-deck).
But anyways, thanks for your comment. I'll check your deck out just in a moment.
3 months ago
I like the look of the deck overall. A couple cards I would swap/take out would be; Eidolon of Rhetoric. Since you have a relatively low curve and a lot of ramp, it will probably end up hurting you more than your opponents. Trygon Predator for Aura Shards as its a lot more effective and harder to remove. I feel that the draw is a little lacking, especially since you are going to consequentially tapping down your own creatures as well, cards like Bident of Thassa is probably not going to be effective as you like it to be. Mystic Remora seems like its gonna be more cost than its worth. I would focus on draw spells that x in its cost since you are running green and a lot of ramp. Cards I believe would go well in this deck would be Oracle of Mul Daya, Brago, King Eternal to untap your permanents, and probably some flexable removal like Oblivion Ring. Overall this deck looks really good and super aggravating to play against. I am excited to see the finish product in action!
4 months ago
PartyJ first of all, thank you for this and the previous comment,
yep I already run Prison Term. Of course Kirtar's Desire is narrow, but not too much. It can stop a good variety of strategies, from Brago himself to Trygon Predator, from Rafiq of the Many to eldrazi's annihilator trigger.
The good thing is that you do it for just 1 mana, and often you cantrip. It's functionally a Secluded Steppe with a free pacifism attached to it (threshold is semi-reliable). Even when you don't really need it, you can always find a target to have it replace itself for cheap. I like to have multiple of these effects because they can indirectly turn into Sram being unblockable too, and also they are the most safe type of auras that are less incline to 2-for-1 situations when removed.Of course, I tutor for Prison Term or Darksteel Mutation if I need one badly, but I kept the Desire (over regular Pacifism) because of its efficiency and to cover a 1-cmc slot.
Detainment Spell would be its complementary version, hitting only abilities, with possibility to move it, like prison term.
Gelid Shackles I feel is the morst versatile, I don't think you can get more efficient than that for just 1 mana. I use snow plains in my other mono white deck on paper so I technically already have them.
4 months ago
Dude! You replaced Eight-and-a-Half-Tails!? Let me defend this case. This card has done so much work and protects everything from almost everything! You have to agree that it has a much higher ceiling than Devoted Caretaker.
Threat of activation
My favorite includes the fact that it wards off more action than you think. Sure, it stops instants and sorceries, what about everything else like planeswalkers Jace, the Mind Sculptor, like avoiding Eldrazi cast triggers, Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre, effects of creatures Acidic Slime Trygon Predator, etc. Instants and sorceries are two huge categories, I agree, but the other categories include: creatures, artifacts, lands Maze of Ith, planeswalkers, and enchantments! 5/7 categories? Caretaker can do nothing for you at each of these points!
Sure, caretaker wins in this department by costing just a W to cast and a W to activate. I suppose thatcher does reduce the most common category of removal by stopping anything in the form of instants and sorceries. Yeah, 8.5 does cost a single W more and an extra 1W to make something white+pro white, but come on.
Number of activations
Swords and Ugin
Playing against pro-white equipment like Sword of Light and Shadow can make it call off of them by making the creature its equipped to White! Devoted Caretaker does not your opponents creatures from getting bigger at all! For Ugin, the Spirit Dragon becomes your best friend, even in the hands of your opponent because it will deter your opponent from using his second mode by making your opponents lands or colorless permanents (if her minuses enough) white! Devoted caretaker only loses this one IF the pro-white swords or Ugin are in your meta!
The most important factor: big daddy Balan, Wandering Knight needs to get through your opponents defenses with all his nice toys, but that pesky Fog Bank wants to ruin the fun. Have no fear, 8.5 wins here! Devoted Caretaker does not win in this department because it does not assist in evasion. Sure, it may take a LOT of mana if your opponents are playing a token deck, but when you get mana flooded/opponents have a small count of creatures, Balan will have a lot more help from 8.5 in getting through.
8.5 >Devoted Caretaker
In all honesty, I personally want to take 8.5 out because it has helped me win games almost TOO easily when I draw him late in the game. I just wanted to make a statement for all who does not know the power of 8.5 and the namesake 8.5 alone because we have had history with this card dude! Obviously, not good enough for commander, but I think he deserves to stay in the 99.