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Trygon Predator Discussion
10 hours ago
I like the deck! A couple of cards that I threw into my Riku deck from looking at this-
Trygon Predator You're right, this is an auto-include!
Frontier Siege Not sure why I didn't notice this one before, it does amazing things for casting sorcery cantrips for card draw or mana ramp. It would also help push me over the edge to be able to drop things like Hornet Queen!
If you don't want to play Exploration I have had good luck with Burgeoning. Turn 1 it is just bonkers, late game it is less helpful. It does have the added benefit of making people consider whether to play a land themselves. For me I like forcing people to second-guess themselves lol.
As for what to do about Bant... I keep a stockpile of Pyroblast and Red Elemental Blast for use against control decks (really any blue deck) just to see the look on their face when I counter their counter with only a mountain open. One mana instant speed removal (or countering if you aren't afraid they will counter your counter) of Rafiq if you want it, letting you use the rest of your mana on something else.
6 days ago
I'd second (err...third? Fourth?) Vampire Nighthawk. The thing is, the card is completely Modern viable...if Modern didn't have Lightning Bolt. He trades with every other creature in the format and the lifegain is relevant.
1 week ago
Trygon Predator has that feel about it. The dissension version more so than the MM version. Slight mix of blue / green tint.
1 week ago
Force of Will so we can get rid of the stupid and arbitrary turn 4 rule.
Swords to Plowshares so we have something other than Lightning Bolt for creature removal that doesn't also function as a win condition. I think we'd see the playability of 2+ CMC creatures with 3 or less toughness go up (creatures like Lodestone Golem, Vampire Nighthawk, and Trygon Predator come to mind).
Psychatog because he's unplayable in Legacy and might be playable in Modern.
People have already said Daze, and I think it's fair.
1 week ago
This is pretty good for being thrown together in an hour, but there's a lot of cards you can throw in to just make it strictly better so I'm just gonna throw as many of them as I can think of at you, hopefully that comes off as helpful. I'm gonna try to limit myself to stuff that's been printed recently and/or isn't too expensive.
Turn / Burn is great at removing anything that doesn't have counters on it.
Prophet of Kruphix is friggin Prophet of Kruphix, why is this deck not just 99 Prophets of Kruphix?
Sol Ring it's in every EDH precon for a reason son.
Atarka, World Render Because Dragons.
Stubborn Denial if you're doing things right it's a hard counter most of the time.
Ruric Thar, the Unbowed GRUUL WANT SMASH!
Malignus maybe it's just me, but giving this trample just seems hilarious.
Savage Knuckleblade nobody playing standard seems to have any love for him, but he's still a nice beater.
Bane of Progress if you want your friends to hate you.
Cards to cut, although you probably know most of this already:
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn isn't EDH legal so I'd ask your friend if it's okay first.
Dragon Fodder 1/1's aren't really gonna do much in commander other than die horribly.
Opaline Unicorn no self respecting green deck runs colorless ramp that isn't sol ring.
Scorchwalker, Zhur-Taa Swine, Rubblebelt Maaka, and Titan's Strength EDH games tend to run a bit longer than 60 card so one-off bursts of power aren't quite as good as stuff that sticks around and beats face until somebody deals with it.
Anyway that's all I got hope it's helpful, good luck with your EDH-ing!
2 weeks ago
@garrettlstewart right? Get rid of the Cloudstone Curio or Ancestral Statue and it's a good'ol slug fest! Personally, I hold those cards back or take them out entirely for Acidic Slime and Trygon Predator.
2 weeks ago
In my build, all my artifact/enchantment hate are not etb abilities, such as Trygon Predator and Nantuko Vigilante. I also run non-etb creature removal such as Kumano, Master Yamabushi, which doubles as a finisher for the myriad of infinite mana combos I run.
3 weeks ago
Been chatting to some people. Thought I would throw out my economic predictions on Khans.
-Fetches: When they leave the format, demand is going to decrease. I can see fetches dipping slightly (about 3-5 dollars of dip) and then slowly rising again for modern/legacy. If you have your playsets, hold onto them, and any extras try and trade into older cards.
-Treasure Cruise: This card is worth picking up in foil. Vintage and cube Players love their shinies (check out Trygon Predator for proof) and a lot of decks will want Cruise. Once Khans stops being opened and there are a few vintage events, I think we will see a price rise. Trade now while it is $10 and hold onto it till it hits $20+
-Dig Through Time: I'm trying to currently pick up my foil playset. Legacy players also love some pimping and Dig sees some play in decks like Miracles. Trade for foils post rotation, hold onto a player of normals.
-Jeskai Ascendancy: Still the most powerful ascendancy. The effects this card produces are insane and I still think we will see another deck or two come out of it, in addition to the 2 combo decks we have already. That said, I don't think it will have as much wide spread appeal now the OP deck got a nerf with a cruise banning. If you can pick them up cheaply (5 dollars or less of stuff you don't care about), do so but expect to be waiting a while.
-Siege Rhino: This card is amazing. It has seen heavy play in modern and standard. It has even seen some fringe legacy play in Nicfit and Nicpod. If you can pick them up in foil, do so. Expect a slight dip after they rotate out, but provided Wizard doesn't print a 4 mana 5/5 who helixs for 4, it should be a fairly good investment.
-Become Immense: It is seeing some play in Infect in both modern and legacy, and being an enabler for the Shadow Aggro gimmicky awesome deck. In foil, it is worth getting and waiting for post rotation to trade. If infect keeps putting out the good numbers, I could see it being 10-15 dollars in foil within a year or so.
-Monastery Swiftspear: Just like Young Pyromancer, I can see normal copies trading at like 3-4 dollars post rotation, but foils going up and hitting the 30-40 mark. It is simply an amazing 1 drop for so many decks.
-Murderous Cut: Another card that is seeing some play in a few decks. With Pod gone in modern, the other decks running black don't really want this, and legacy isn't the biggest fan. However, it is a solid card that I can see being a fringe playable. Another card to pick up cheaply now, and hold onto for a while.
If people enjoy this, I might do the next bit of the block too. Any questions or comments, let me know.
|Power / Toughness||2/3|
|Avg. draft pick||2.41|
|Avg. cube pick||11.34|
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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