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Untap target creature and gain control of it until end of turn. That creature gains haste until end of turn. (It can attack and tap this turn.)
Rhadamanthus on Industrial advancement
1 week ago
Yes, you're allowed to do either of those things. For the Threaten example, you don't have to do anything special to make sure it works, because "until end of turn" effects wear off in the cleanup step, which comes after the end step. For the Sneak Attack example, you just have to put the triggers from Industrial Advancement and Sneak Attack onto the stack in the right order (they're trying to go onto the stack at the same time and you control them both so you get to choose).
proterran98 on Industrial advancement
1 week ago
With Industrial Advancement, can I Threaten my opponents creature and instead of giving it back, sac it to IA? Can I do the same to a Sneak Attack creature?
Coward_Token on UB: LOTR
2 weeks ago
Spoiler season starts at May 30
So this is one of the few UB:s I'll reluctantly admit that I kinda like, since Tolkien's work doesn't clash too much with MTG's more generic fantasy flavor. From what I'm seen, I'm actually kind of dissapointed that that they're not doing more to differentiate their character designs from the Jacksson movies?
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The One Ring: Eye of Vecna on steroids, which is pretty fitting. A serious consideration for mono-white life gain decks; cast it for four mana, tap it to draw one, pass, then tap it on your next turn again to draw two more. That's like a slow Concentrate, which isn't bad at all (and that's not even getting into tapping it more times). The ETB Progenitus-protection means it's not a bad late-game topdeck either.
Gandalf the Grey: Yeah, I feel white-blue would have been more appropriate flavorfully? He's a good guy yet also a trickster. Also even though he's the become the standard model for wizards, IIRC Gandalf doesn't actually cast much, in part because AFAIK doing magic in LOTR permanently drains your power. Also, the topdeck ability gives me anxiety thinking about stuff like Portent.
Sam, Loyal Attendant: Gingerbrute and Golden Egg can now be activated for free. (Please try to contain your excitment.) Anyway, seeing as the "Food and Fellowship" precon is WBG, I'm guessing Frodo will be WB and have some sort of life payment to take advantage of the cheap meals? (Also, I feel Frodo was more dutiful than Adventurous.)
Radagast, Wizard of Wilds: I was going to complain about Istari color philosophy again because I feel Radagast is mono-green, or even red-green considering how he kinda irresponsibly and eccentrically abandons his mission, but turns out his real name literally means "Friend to birds", so I'll have to give this a pass.
Reprieve: Overall better than Remand since it pierces "Can't be countered", and also Lapse of Certainty even if it permits faster recasts. How long do we have to wait for a white Delay tho?
Gollum, Patient Plotter: You know, he just looks like a Shadowmoore kithkin, if a bit old and underdressed.
Mount Doom: Actually sacrifing the One Ring to relieve the life loss burden is for wusses. Gogo Ugin's Nexus or Helvault for profit!
Samwise the Stouthearted: IDK why they didn't just template it as "return up to one target permanent..."? Anyway, Ring temptation is as intriguing as it is vague.
Frodo, Sauron's Bane: I don't really feel like Frodo leveled up much, especially in comparsion to the other hobbits. And he kinda didn't end up being the Bane of big daddy S seeing as he fell to tempation at the end (while Gollum just plain fell).
Tom Bombadil: Kind of unsure if the second ability leaves a window of vulnerability where the first ability isn't active? Anyway, Read Ahead-Sagas seem pretty good here.
Sauron, the Lidless Eye: Kind of dissapointing in both flavor and mechanics. I feel he's philosophically more mono-black in LOTR, while his old self was more UBR. ETB Threaten isn't all that exciting either.
Aragorn and Arwen: I'm not generally against race bending, but in this case I can't help but think of the black numenorans . Anyway, the card's actual abilities are OK at six mana.
Gidgetimer on Deadeye Navigator and Control Magic
4 weeks ago
Yes, that is how it works. The flicker effect puts it onto the battlefield under your control, so if you Control Magic or even Threaten a creature and then somehow soulbond it with DEN you can flicker it to take control permanently. This works for commanders too since putting the commander into the command zone from exile is a state-based action and SBAs aren't checked in the middle of a thing resolving.
Rhadamanthus on Can Ria Ivor, Bane of …
1 month ago
You can do that, but you'll have to do something extra if you want to get the other parts of the effect. Because the ability doesn't specify who has to control the targeted creature that means it can target any creature. However, you'd have to jump through some hoops to get an opponent's creature to deal combat damage to a player during your turn (Ray of Command etc. during the beginning of combat step, but you could have just used Threaten etc. during your main phase).
Strangelove on The Black Rose Grand Theft
2 months ago
Heyo happy to chime in! +1 m8
-allThreaten effects in favor of payoffs like Mob Rule, etc... or sticks like Big Game Hunter, Evil Twin, etc. Once you hit any of these you'll be doing the same thing (from your opponents' POV): soft-locking the board.
+6-10 Dusk Legion Zealot, draw, ETC ...I feel like these are MVP and lend to an aristocrats style.
-1 Curse of Stalked Prey... too conditional in the late game
-1 Captivating Crew... too much mana
+1 Vigean Graftmage, or anything that can put counters on Marchesa
+1 Plaguecrafter, etc... these are oppressive engines
With a lot more draw + lower cmc removal/ removal-sticks this will slap!
zretrareo27 on RW EDH Brion 2022
7 months ago
My 2016 EDH deck - revamped for 2022! use commander Brion Stoutarm to Fling your opponents creatures with cards like Act of Treason, and if you're lucky - use Bazaar Trader to keep them!
I've tried to keep this deck nearly 50% White and 50% Red.
I've narrowed the premise of this deck down to the following categories, 50 Cards to the first, and 10 cards to each other category, give or take.
50% of the Deck is the Commander, Land, Mana rocks, and Draw.
10% is Steal/Keep
10% is Removal/Wipe
10% is Bringing Cards Back
10% is Brion Fodder and Fetch cards
10% is Double Damage and Powerful Flyers
Your comments and suggestions are greatly appreciated. That being said, I will probably not be able to afford the more expensive cards Land Tax, Smothering Tithe, Lifeline, Smuggler's Share etc. that are not already in this deck. However - It's still fun to check them out! If you like it, up vote!
With this revision, I've cut many of the fancier, slower dual lands to opt for faster basic lands. I've also added Weathered Wayfarer.
I've removed cards that target artifacts and enchantments like Kami of Ancient Law, instead opting for better utility cards like Quarantine Field that target "nonland permanent".
I've made some recent changes to this deck, hopefully to address that mid game I am struggling with tempo, as well as running out of mana to cast the creature or steal spell and have enough to activate Brion's ability. Some cards like Deathrender and Thornbite Staff have been removed (even though they were good in concept) to add more playability.
I also found that after all the sacrificing, mid game I was running out of defense, so some additional creatures have been added with dual purpose, such as Angel of Sanctions and Emeria Shepherd.
Fiery Emancipation gives me triple damage. Calamity Bearer works specifically to Brion's sac ability. Angrath's Marauders, Gisela, Blade of Goldnight, Gratuitous Violence all make the damage I do twice as effective.
When creatures I steal die, Stalking Vengeance beefs them. When I summon large creatures into play Warstorm Surge deals damage to my opponent, and when I sac those, Stalking Vengeance hits them on the way out.
Malignus, Serra Avatar, and Soul of Eternity all act as giant bombs to throw at the opponent.
Hofri Ghostforge allows for me to steal an opponents creature, fling it at them with brion, and then keep a spirit copy of that creature.
Magus of the Wheel and Reforge the Soul provide the opportunity to get a fresh hand at my whim. Humble Defector is an easy and fun, card that helps me forge alliances with other players in multiplayer while getting me TWO extra cards per turn.
Skullclamp works perfect with the sacrifice ability and is easy to cast.
Well of Lost Dreams is insane when played late game for Brion's lifelink ability and can be fetched with Hoarding Dragon or Open the Armory Sin Prodder gives me a potential extra card per turn, or the chance for an opponent to take damage to the face... and then I can pull it out of my graveyard later with my other cards! Basically a win/win. Mangara, the Diplomat and Mila, Crafty Companion Flip serve to deter attacks and draw.
Hoarding Dragon serves as a flyer, a sacrifice, and can grab any rocks, Skullclamp, or Well of Lost Dreams.
Open the Armory helps grab Skullclamp, Well of Lost Dreams, or Gift of Immortality.
Recruiter of the Guard is specifically to get Bazaar Trader for the huge advantage of keeping my opponents things, but can also grab Duergar Hedge-Mage for removal or Sin Prodder (amongst a few others). Weathered Wayfarer can grab any land, such as Buried Ruin or Arcane Lighthouse.
Boros Cluestone, Commander's Sphere, and Mind Stone are all serving as early ramp and later card draw.
Sol Ring because Sol Ring.
Archon of Justice is quite powerful in this deck, as it allows for a flying creature, then a source to sac, and remove a card permanently.
Angel of Serenity gives me the option of 3 recursion or 3 removal.
Duergar Hedge-Mage can be played and replayed in this deck for knocking off annoying enchantments or mana rocks.
Magus of the Disk is one of the board wipes.
Grasp of Fate, Oblivion Ring, and Banishing Light all allow for really flexible removal. Same for Quarantine Field except allows for extra targets for more mana. Chained to the Rocks works the same, but only for creatures. Angel of Sanctions works similarly, but is a creature. Ryusei, the Falling Star really just acts as weenie removal and a sac source from a flyer.
Bringing them Back (and sometimes keep it!):
Adarkar Valkyrie Sac an opponents creature, then get it permanently!
Bazaar Trader Take it with a steal and keep it!
Angelic Renewal Sac my own creature, get it back! Gift of Immortality Sac my own creature, get it back... again, and again!
Emeria Shepherd play a land, get a card! Play a Plains, get a creature to sac!
Mistmoon Griffin Flys, defends, and sac-able, then get back a creature from the graveyard!
Squee's Embrace fun and easy to play, and retrievable with Tragic Poet.
Tragic Poet, a low mana cost creature to get any enchantment in my deck back for any reason. Fun with Squee's Embrace, Angelic Renewal, etc. Returned Pastcaller a flyer that lets me grab a Threaten or Breath of Life. Angel of Serenity gives me the option of 3 recursion or 3 removal.
Stealing their Creatures:
Captivating Crew steals every turn! No wasted card space here, just a reusable sorcery.
Conquering Manticore powerful flyer, that steals!
Zealous Conscripts You can steal anything! Anything! Lands? Mine. Artifacts? Mine. Works great with Bazaar Trader.
Act of Treason, Portent of Betrayal, and Threaten are all basic steal spells.
Malevolent Whispers, Mark of Mutiny, and Traitorous Instinct all give me steal with buffs for Flinging.
Harness by Force allows for more than one thing to be taken if the extra cost is paid!
I'll be the first to admit, these don't reallllly fit in with the deck. But they're so awesome it's hard to remove.
Akroma, Angel of Fury
Akroma, Angel of Wrath
Aurelia, the Warleader
Lokotor on Marchesa, The Black Rose - Primer
1 year ago
Right on both counts I think. Like you said, Gisa isn't especially better than any other Threaten effect, and I basically look at it as being slightly cheaper Grave Betrayal which I don't run both for it's MV and for the fact that the effect isn't that important.
generally most of the time this deck ends up killing opponent's creatures with things like Grave Pact or Fleshbag Marauder kinds of effects, so there's definitely some ability to get the triggers, but that's also putting the choice in your opponent's hand, so you'll usually end up with a token or meh creature you don't particularly need.
All in all, I just think there's better 4 drops to run than Gisa, Glorious Resurrector.
as for Resculpt, I agree, it's generally worse than Reality Shift. however it's still a 1U instant speed exile effect, so it's definitely got a place in some decks. exile based spot removal is an important effect to have, so whatever you choose I'd recommend having at least a few such cards if you can. Ravenform is a similar card, but sorcery speed certainly hurts it compared to other options. Deadly Rollick is also out of many player's budgets I'd imagine.