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Keiga, the Tide Star
Legendary Creature — Dragon Spirit
When Keiga, the Tide Star is put into a graveyard from play, gain control of target creature.
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Keiga, the Tide Star Discussion
2 weeks ago
Cool theme - I love milkshake decks.
Have you tested with something like Pull from Tomorrow to complement Sphinx's Revelation?
Beacon of Unrest might be fun to include here, and I wonder if Keiga, the Tide Star might be helpful, too. This list also makes me think of Dragonlord Silumgar, Gonti, Lord of Luxury and Hostage Taker.
Have fun playing!
4 weeks ago
I'm currently doing something similar with my copy of the pre-con and though I bounce back and forth between Scion and The Ur-Dragon himself, I inevitably lean towards the battle-cruiser style in both builds.
Regarding the mana-base, I've found that focusing primarily on all the "Red" lands works pretty well for me.
This provides numerous opportunities to grab the colors needed to cast all dragons while keeping all the great Fire Breathing dragons relevant.
I also add in all the budget 5 color lands that I can manage - Rupture Spire and Transguild Promenade are great. A lot of people look down on them and refuse to use them but like you, I also don't want to spend a mortgage payment on the land base.
Forbidden Orchard is relevant since your flyers don't particularly care about 1/1 grounded tokens, but still is not as budget friendly as the others I've listed so far. Still, better than a lot of the options out there.
Aside from the mana-base. Haste + Big dragons is great. I skipped Dragonlord Kolaghan for a long time but having finally slotted him into the deck for a test run, he promptly won me a game and I can confirm he's pretty much worth the slot - Being much more budget friendly than Karthas.
Temur Ascendancy is another multi-function haste enabler that's very budget friendly.
Keiga, the Tide Star and the other Kamigawa dragons all just got a reprint and are way better in Ur-Dragon than in Scion.
It's expensive but I'm personally running a Cyclonic Rift. That's an easy one, but there are lots of other great options that synergize with your dragons in the same way Earthquake does. Magmaquake and Molten Disaster are great includes here.
I've won games with Rite of Replication - which is great even in a vacuum since you can target your opponent's creatures. The more Legendary Dragons you run though, the worse it becomes and it's not exactly dirt cheap so your mileage may vary.
2 months ago
Picked up some new cards at PAX weekend.
- Pilgrim's Eye
- Llanowar Elves
- Secluded Steppe
- Borrowing 100,000 Arrows
- Soltari Champion
- Blue Sun's Zenith
- Skyward Eye Prophets
- Beacon Hawk
- Thran Dynamo
- Birds of Paradise
- Concordant Crossroads
- Beastmaster Ascension
- Yosei, the Morning Star
- Sphinx's Revelation
- Keiga, the Tide Star
Also noting some other changes from earlier:Out:
- AEthermage's Touch
- Another card I have forgotten
2 months ago
2 months ago
legomanalec There is another infinite combo: Bear Umbra/Sword of Feast and Famine and Hellkite Charger (if you have seven lands, two of which can produce red). Nature's Will will also satisfy this combo's land-untapping component. There may be other cards as well that do this, but I don't think any more of these effects warrant inclusion.
There is also the "classic" Scion combo with Moltensteel Dragon and a double-strike trampler like Dragon Tyrant or Atarka, World Render.
The main reason I don't put a large focus on infinite combos is because they are easier to break (and many combo-centric decks will easily outpace this one in a combo race). I win most of my games with Living Death/Patriarch's Bidding, which are harder to break.
I also like the subtle Feldon of the Third Path & Keiga, the Tide Star/Yosei, the Morning Star combination. It gets dealt with most of the time, but unless someone is keenly aware of what's about to happen, I can get away with 2 and sometimes even 3 turns of this, which can be a game changer.
2 months ago
Super cool deck, i love that other people are making budget decks for modern that are fun to play and competitive, also it is very unusual to see Dimir dragons in modern, so not many people are expecting that for sure. There is the non budget cards that you said. But you definitely should add some cheap dual lands like Underground River, maybe even something like Phantasmal Image for some aggro or copying Keiga, the Tide Star for some extra mind control, im not sure if that would work thou lol. Maybe adding some more removal, Fatal Push is not really budget but Go for the Throat and Doom Blade, maybe even Dismember. Other than that maybe going down a few Think Twice and Telling Time, seems a bit excessive to me. Other than that great deck and i hope this help in some way.
2 months ago
One of the best things I learned a long time ago is simply this: There are no wrong threats, only wrong answers. With that in mind, here are some additional thoughts on your deck.
Weaker Dragons to consider taking out. Keep in mind that this is based on my play style.
Hellkite Charger is a maybe. I like the extra combat phase, but it is dependant on being in play, attacking, and having 7 mana available. Not sure yet. Intet, the Dreamer has always been weak. You get to exile the top card of your library and hope that you can play it before the next Wrath of God or Path to Exile, after paying 3 mana to exile your own card. Spellbound Dragon might work in a deck built around draw-discard. But this deck isn't. You want the draw, but not the discard. Just doesn't seem to fit that well. Silumgar, the Drifting Death seems a bit on the weak side. But I could see him as a way to get rid of token armies. Not sure on this one either.
Now to take a look at the non-creature cards.
Ponder is a great card. In a 60 card deck with a full playset. In a Commander/EDH deck, not so much. Single use is a big drawback. I prefer repeatable effects in commander decks. Or consider Brainstorm instead. Dreamstone Hedron is nice. But as a 6 cast artifact that either adds 3 colorless or draws 3 cards I can't shake the feeling that it is a bit late to the party. Consider Hedron Archive. Same basic idea. It only adds 2 colorless or draws 2 cards. But it hit the field 2 turns earlier. That is 2 whole turns of having 2 more mana to help power out those Dragons. Relic of Progenitus is a great card in a lot of tournament decks. However, it also trashes your graveyard too. Depending on your Meta, maybe a simple Tormod's Crypt instead? Curse of Verbosity is a great way to pile on to the biggest threat player at the table. But you have no way to bounce it to change the target and once that play is out of the game, this becomes a dead card on the field. Also, you don't really want to give other players an option to draw cards. Darksteel Mutation is cute spot removal. But there are so many better options. Is spot removal really that important in your meta? If so, consider Swords to Plowshares, Anguished Unmaking, Unmake or even Curse of the Swine. All of which deal really well with any threat except a commander. You could use Declaration of Naught naming their Commander if you really want to get someone angry. Frontier Siege either adds 2 mana or causes your creatures to fight. I can think of so many better uses for that sleeve. More creatures. More mana ramp. More shenanigans. Monastery Siege first ability suffers the same problems that Mirror of the Forebears copies an existing creaturee in play. Not bad. I would put this in the maybe pile. Tough call on this one. I would keep it or cut it depending on what other choices get made. Lightning Greaves & Swiftfoot Boots are cards that I know you like and I do see their value. But to me there are so many better uses of those sleeves. These are probably the cards least likely to be swapped out of your deck, but I don't think that your deck really needs them. They don't protect from board wipe. You have other cards that give Dragons haste or you could even run Anger for the haste.
New dragons to consider:
Balefire Dragon and Deathbringer Regent are both Dragons and board wipes rolled into one sleeve. Destructor Dragon dies and takes another non-creature with it. Read that as destroy target planeswalker, artifact, enchantment or land. Dragonlord Atarka acts as a spot removal spell and a Dragon. Dragonlord Dromoka does a really good job of dealing with counterspells. Dragonlord Kolaghan gives your other creatures haste. Hoever, his second ability is kind of a waste in Commander. Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund needs no explanation. Keiga, the Tide Star gains control of an opponent creature until end of the game or you sacrifice it to the Altar. Kilnmouth Dragon we've already talked about. Nicol Bolas is a maybe. I know he is iconic and has a good ability, however, tying up 3 colored mana each turn isn't that great. Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind is a good card draw and ping engine. Jsut don't use the stupid Curiosity combo. That's so lame. Ruthless Deathfang works well with the Altar of Dementia and Scourge of Nel Toth. I sacrifice a creature, oh, and so should you. Scourge of Nel Toth not only comes back form the grave for cheap, but it also provides a sacrifice method for Jugan or Keiga. Scourge of the Throne is a great way to knock an opponent in the lead back down. Thunderbreak Regent punishes opponents for using spot removal. I would rather run this instead of the boots. This is a threat, the boots and greaves aren't. The equipment does protect against spot removal. Also watching an opponent getting a Lightning Bolt in the face for the effort of removing a Dragon is pretty funny.
Other cards to look at:
Eerie Interlude or Ghostway can do double duty of protecting your creatures and retrigger all of the enter-the-battlefield effects. If Scourge of Valkas or Warstorm Surge is on the field, then Eerie Interlude becomes a kill card. Shard Convergence helps make more mana available. Basilisk Collar gives lifelink and deathtouch. And putting deathtouch on Scourge of Kher Ridges provides another board wipe. Deathtouch on Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind adds another point of spot removal. Patriarch's Bidding has long been a staple of tribal decks. Thanks for that Wrath of God. I needed that. Now watch as I return all of my threats.
As always, temper these suggestions with your play style, collections, and budget. Let me know what you think.
3 months ago
A small card dumpp because I am board. Hellkite Charger, (Numot, the Devastator is saten!), O-Kagachi, Vengeful Kami, Ramos, Dragon Engine is amazing but is ten bucks, Ryusei, the Falling Star, Savage Ventmaw is free mana, Teneb, the Harvester, Vorosh, the Hunter, Warden of Evos Isle, Wasitora, Nekoru Queen, Fearsome Awakening, Keiga, the Tide Star, Outpost Siege. There you go, more cards to look at!