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|Modern Masters||mythic rare|
|Champions of Kamigawa||Rare|
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Keiga, the Tide Star
Legendary Creature — Dragon Spirit
When Keiga, the Tide Star is put into a graveyard from play, gain control of target creature.
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Keiga, the Tide Star Discussion
2 weeks ago
3 weeks ago
Yeah, Blade + Purphoros seems like a game plan in itself.
Yosei, Keiga, the Tide Star or any of the Kamidragons seem good.
1 month ago
@Errast - Panharmonicon is something to think about. I do have a spare Strionic Resonator I may try as well. It does cost two per use so its not as good as Panharmonicon for Silumgar or other etb effects, but it still works. And it gives extra value to the triggered abilites on Kokusho, the Evening Star and Keiga, the Tide Star, or even an extra token from Bitterblossom.
2 months ago
If we're upgrading the land package soon, here's what we gonna do. Firstly, shocklands will be important, but you can start with prioritizing red and black ones. Blood Crypt, Steam Vents, Sacred Foundry, Stomping Ground, Watery Grave, Godless Shrine, Overgrown Tomb... Then you can pick up Hallowed Fountain, Temple Garden, and Breeding Pool later. You'll also want to consider dropping the guildgates/Maze's End. From here, the Khans fetchlands will be worthy of inclusion: Wooded Foothills, Bloodstained Mire, Polluted Delta, Flooded Strand, and Windswept Heath. These are the cheaper fetchlands. Sidenote: Cascading Cataracts, Cavern of Souls... They're probably good inclusions. This will be a start for your mana base.
The transformation from Scion to Ur will also lessen the power of the following dragons: Dragon Mage, Dragon Tyrant, Nicol Bolas, Quicksilver Dragon, Scourge of Kher Ridges, Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon.
From here, you can try out Keiga, the Tide Star, Kokusho, the Evening Star, Thundermaw Hellkite, maybe Scourge of Valkas, Deathbringer Regent, Destructor Dragon, Dragonlord Silumgar, Glorybringer, Ojutai, Soul of Winter, Thunderbreak Regent... Those are just a start. Lots of potential there. Also, Crucible of Fire, Dragonspeaker Shaman, Dragonstorm lol, Dragonlord's Servant...
2 months ago
There is a tl;dr section at the bottom, I did not have enough time to shorten this
Taking this off the forums to save everybody else (and you) the trouble
1:I am accused of being too much of a spike ("That's because stuff like Stasis are 'spikier' cards"). The cause of this accusation was directed at my answer ("but there are better ways of achieving Stasis hint hint", the answer provided an improved card whilst not making any concrete specifications. This was interpreted that I am competitive.
This accusation is easily falsified by pointing out lack of specificity I used and the fact that I mentioned a less-than-competitive reason (in the form of Brine Elemental).
Typical EDH is brought up ("in typical EDH, decks that want to play big creatures without big combos or locks are pretty common"). You have defined typical EDH as, "is not the weird mix of casual-competitive that you play. It's just casual". First: what weird mix of casual-competitive do I play? Please expand accurately on that. How would normal casual-competitive be defined? Please expand accurately on that. Lastly, please define casual, accurately of course.
*If you want any information as to who I play with, what decks we play, and how long games last (turn and/or minutes), ask and you shall receive.
I am accused that I play weird casual-competitive. To say that I play casual-competitive, coming from another person, is one of the most cretinous, inane, and ineffectual statements to make.
Who are you to say that I play weird casual-competitive?
"I'll also point out your explicit mentions of 'meta' and 'competitive'". Congratulations, you read what I write. If you could please be so kind as to assimilate it. The usage of the word "meta" is as follows: a term used to characterize something that is characteristically self-referential. Please do not confuse this with the abbreviation "meta" (most effective tactically available) as that would make no sense within that context. You pointed out that I used the word competitive. I freely admit that I mention (and more) the word competitive, explicitly and clearly.
Do you admit the same.
You appear to view this as a bad thing (troubling, however, your point does not prove anything, leaving another open-ended notion that you bring up).
The original point is that Kokusho, the Evening Star is used more than Yosei, the Morning Star, Ryusei, the Falling Star, Jugan, the Rising Star, and/or Keiga, the Tide Star (damn, i got them all correct!). I gave my reason, when you argued, I gave another reason, you then argued by accusing the way I play, the way others play (attacking my playgroups), and then proceeded to ignore my second reason.
You expect that if you--passively or passive-aggressively or aggressively-- accuse a person (seemingly without any basis), that you can get away with it? With this in mind, let's review some notes you might have forgotten:
you create open-ended and empty points, you create terms that are vague and voided, and it appears that if it is not casual (oh sorry: typical edh) it is immediately discounted.
1:I want to use the way that you write and show you how ridiculous it is, but one would hope that is already clear by what is on this message.
The amount of definite things that you (appear to) believe I said that are not true and create serious flaws: I like yosei as a card, I use yosei in my kaalia deck (Rakdos the Defiler + Yosei, the Morning Star + Twilight Shepherd is fun on turn 5...), and Yosei is not a bad card. Remember, because there is a "better" card does not necessarily mean that the original card is bad. Redundancy is key in edh. Plague Wind is strictly worse than In Garruk's Wake, is Plague Wind a bad card? No(!) both cards are both good. Would I rather play In Garruk's Wake, in most situations, yes. I shall forestall your comment (you talk about meta (the abbreviation)!) and note that both plague and garruk's wake are good and played.
It is important to note your comment, "Yosei is listed in around 2000 decks out of the 150,000-ish decks". You do not list where, how, or what parameters you used in coming up with this. It should be disqualified from the internet. However, since you bring up that numbers, I viewed this search and applied Kokusho, Yosei, Keiga, Ryusei, and Jugan. Each page is 20 decks, i got the following numbers: Kokusho is in 6160 decks, Yosei is in 3480(?!) decks, Keiga is in 2820 decks, Ryusei is in 1880 decks, and Jugan is in 1260 decks (all of these numbers are within 20 minus). I do not see the point in continuing to write this line of thought.
1:In conclusion. It has been a delightful fifteen minutes thinking about this, but for now I shall break.
2:The following has been noted and gone over: you accused me of being a spike, of not playing typical edh, and playing weird casual-competitve edh. You offer no grounds, clarifications, definitions, and minimal basis for them. You have been quoted. You are asked a question that is a cause for some abeyance. I rehash the original point and show your flaws. I stem future accusations. I clarify misconceptions you seem to hold (apologies if you did not hold them, your comments were indicative). I debase a claim you fought for. I reiterate message in conclusion.
4 months ago
Some suggestions in keeping with the theme.
4 months ago
Since I see you like your Planeswalkers, might I suggest Sarkhan Vol? And from my personal experience with Yasova, Surrak Dragonclaw and Shaman of the Great Hunt are lackluster with her. You may have better luck with them than I did though. I put in Keiga, the Tide Star and Dracoplasm instead. I love the Dracoplasm! It's hilarious when you steal your opponents creatures with something like Insurrection, swing, then drop a Dracoplasm.