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Keiga, the Tide Star
Legendary Creature — Dragon Spirit
When Keiga, the Tide Star is put into a graveyard from play, gain control of target creature.
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Keiga, the Tide Star Discussion
2 weeks ago
Hi there Aqveteig
I don't think Cackling Counterpart should be in the deck.
I don't think Darksteel Citadel is useful
High Tide I feel like this is shouldn't be here.
Lightning Greaves is a must-have.
You are missing Expropriate I know you are going budget, but still is a great card.
You should definitely add Baral, Chief of Compliance
Hope I've been usefull
2 weeks ago
Thanks for responding man.
So for point #:
Dimir House Guard - Yeah, I'm trying to dial back the power level a tiny tiny bit, but increase the consistency. I'm already targeted quite a few times at the table when I play Marchesa.
Razaketh, the Foulblooded - Yeah, I'm seeing that more and more. Razaketh is awesome being able to tutor for free, has flying, big creature, hard to kill. But he doesn't seem as good to me in recent months as many people make him out to be, yano? People are like OMG OMG razaketh is so broken...I don't really think so lol
Opal Palace - Yeah good point, I'm just not sure how much I like dumping that many into only a counter. I know the deck runs on counters, but I like playing Marchesa earlier, not later, which happens when you have to pay 5 for her to come in and get a counter.
Forge of Heroes - Hmmm good point. I guess there's some political advantage there lol
Scry lands - Yeah, no. I have 3 decks. And plan to build another. If I got OG duels for each, I'd be broke lol. But they do seem slower than some other more budget options out there to me.
Helm of the Host - I can see that, yeah. I just thought it could do some work for another dethrone trigger, or ETB effect, no?
Lifegain - I'll look into the wurmcoil, collar, and gray merchant. However, for stealing a lifegain creature, I don't run either of those creature stealing creatures. Though I have considered Hostage Taker , I have this feeling that if I add one or two, then my list will become one of those "steal everything" marchesa lists. And I'm not a fan of those. It's too reliant on your opponents to me.
Massacre Wurm - I probably won't be running one in Marchesa, simply because it's 25$, and I want one for my newly rebuilt Teysa deck lol
Krav, the Unredeemed - Yeah, I was more so thinking to use him as extra card draw, lifegain, but you're probably right.
Kokusho, the Evening Star right?!? That flying can just run people down. And an (almost) auto 15 life swap is way better than what I think Gray merchant could do. You could get there, but it requires more setup with Gray merchant..
True, I added Keiga, the Tide Star because it seemed good on paper at first when I came across the thought of adding Kokusho haha
Yeah, I thought of that after the fact, I think Judith, the Scourge Diva would be better as a commander, which I am considering xD
Idk, to me, Hall of the Bandit Lord seems better than Guildmages' Forum and others, because most times it'll put you on dethrone, cast marchesa, and you swing and get the counter anyway, instead of having to wait a turn to pay the extra mana from the other lands that add counters.
Yeah haha I know, nothing really exciting, BUT necessary in a 3 color deck. If I could, I would add a Mana crypt, but...no lol I'll look around for other mana rocks. To be honest, I've been considering cutting all of the signets... I noticed your list and a few others don't run any in the deck. Too low of a curve to justify it? Waste of a turn 2/3 play? Who knows.
Thank you man, I really appreciate the help. I'll check out your maybe list :))
2 weeks ago
I've tried several of the cards from your cut list and I'm obviously not running several of them, my thoughts are Dimir House Guard and Sidisi, Undead Vizier are easily replaced by (better) tutors and you could easily make due with fewer tutors than i'm running, especially if you're trying to dial things back a bit.
I like Razaketh, the Foulblooded as a top of the curve finisher creature with upsides. for me i have a decent amount of artifact ramp to be able to cast him (and Shifting Shadow to maybe grab him for free), but I will readily admit that he's at the absolute top of my curve and could easily be replaced since he doesn't really add too much to the deck. he's just a "win more" card really and I don't think I would miss him all that much if i cut him.
Guildmages' Forum is better than Opal Palace in my opinion and i don't see much need to run both. Forum lets you put a counter on any multicolored creature (which i have several) and palace only on marchesa, so it's a straight improvement.
Forge of Heroes sounds like a terrible mobile game, but it's a great insurance policy on marchesa and unlike opal palace, etc. you can use it even if it isn't your turn.
the scry lands obviously could be replaced by ABUR duals or something, but i'm not made of money and haven't ever really felt they were hindering the deck so may as well keep them.
I don't really rate Helm of the Host too highly, it doesn't do anything in particular for the deck and it costs soooo much mana.
Aetherborn Marauder , Bloodhunter Bat , Filigree Familiar none of these has that great of an effect in my opinion. looks like you're wanting to work some life gain into the deck and i think it's a good idea to have some. i run Basilisk Collar and Wurmcoil Engine to fill that role. of those cards you linked i think Gray Merchant of Asphodel is probably the best option and is a card i have considered. but so far between my card draw and tutors i've not had too much trouble finding one of my lifegain cards and it is usually feasible to steal something with lifelink via Hostage Taker or Thief of Sanity
I'm running Massacre Wurm as a newer addition and so far it's working out, though i'm not 100% sold on it. it mostly clears tokens and Elvish Mystic s and such, but the life loss on it can be fairly substantial. i could go either way on it right now.
Nicol Bolas, the Ravager Flip is amazing. i would play it even if it didn't turn into a planeswalker. 4/4 flying ETB opponents discard is already super good. i usually don't even bother to flip him most of the time. if you were going to add one card this is high on my list of recommendations. he's performed strongly every game i play him.
Krav, the Unredeemed is kind of high on the mana curve for this kind of effect. considering he doesn't have flying (oddly) or any other evasion i'm not a big fan of using him as a beater, and so he's in a bit of a rough spot.
i don't see any reason to run Judith, the Scourge Diva she's not really better than Blood Artist or similar and there's plenty of effects like this in a variety of forms (creature, enchantment, etc) i think the incidental life loss to a single player or a couple points of damage to a creature is not going to really be anything to write home about and in EDH when you have 120 life to deal with it's just not good enough.
I don't see any point in running Embargo as it doesn't synergize with the deck particularly well. i suppose you could try to use it to keep your opponents creatures tapped down for some swings, but i dont really think there's much point in it. i speak similarly about Herald of Secret Streams in my write up.
Hall of the Bandit Lord is might be worth running, but i haven't ever tested it.
Coalition Relic is fine, it's a cmc3 rock. nothing special. i would recommend you run CMC2 or less rocks if you can, but as far as CMC3 ones go it's on the better end.
feel free to mess around with cards in my maybe board if you're looking to try some different things. i haven't tried all of them, but they're things that have caught my eye from time to time.
2 weeks ago
Hey Lokotor, Your Marchesa list is honestly one of the only few ones that I like on tappedout ha
I was wondering if I could get some advice. How can I improve my deck? I don't wnt to make it super OP. But more fun, and resilient. All the life loss to stay on the throne is sometimes, a lot of times, an issue. In multiplayer I may take out 1 person, 2 sometimes, but then I'm the next to go.
I'm thinking of swapping some cards. Big list of cards I'm considering. How have these cards worked for you if you've played with them?
Helm of the Host - seems reall good, Aetherborn Marauder , Bloodhunter Bat , Filigree Familiar , Gray Merchant of Asphodel , Massacre Wurm , Nicol Bolas, the Ravager Flip, Krav, the Unredeemed , Kokusho, the Evening Star , Keiga, the Tide Star , Judith, the Scourge Diva , Etali, Primal Storm , Hall of the Bandit Lord , Embargo , Coalition Relic
I know there are a few different types of cards in there, but you can see where it's going. I want to recoup some of the life loss, increase mana, make the deck a bit faster, etc.
1 month ago
So im trying to a deck that ive been wanting to making since i joined MTG back in Journey into Nyx. And that was a 5 color Star Dragon deck that abuses their on death abilities. For a while i though a 5 color copy deck built around the Star Dragons but i didn't work the i want it to. so far are i have for the deck is the bones Jugan, the Rising Star , Keiga, the Tide Star , Kokusho, the Evening Star , Yosei, the Morning Star , Ryusei, the Falling Star , Teysa Karlov and O-Kagachi, Vengeful Kami as my commander mostly for flavor but i theres a better command that actually helps pls let me know. P.S. I know that Child of Alara exist but I don't want potential artifacts or enchantments that help my deck get blown up as well
3 months ago
Wonder and Skullclamp would be an autoinclude. You could do some aristocrats style gameplay while grinding through little self-recurring dudes like Bloodghast, Reef Worm, and Bloodsoaked Champion while churning through your deck with Midnight Reaper or Grim Haruspex, draining everyone with Blood Artist effects and simultaneously clearing the board with Grave Pact effects (found a use for Ruthless Deathfang!)
You could include some mind control effects to sac for value. Dragonlord Silumgar and Roil Elemental have a special place in my heart. And while we're on the topic of ETB's you could run a few one-off etb/death guys like Ravenous Chupacabra, Mulldrifter (I believe you can evoke and sac the dude while the evoke sacrifice trigger is on the stack but don't quote me on that) the primordials and Keiga, the Tide Star.
9 months ago
10 months ago
Thanks a lot Dumgoldfish124, I forgot carress and Megrim trigger per discard. I've been thinking of making the deck more discard oriented with cards like Waste Not. I did wind up taking out Keiga, the Tide Star for Cruel Ultimatum because I agree on the flavor necessity.
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