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Drownyard Temple Discussion
3 weeks ago
Here are some cards you may not have considered before!
3 weeks ago
Words of Waste got cut when I added Winter Orb + Static Orb. Ultimately it never lived up to expectations. Oppression was an extremely early cut. It always felt like win-more overkill, and keeping hands empty is never something Ive struggled with while piloting the deck in its current state. Deserted Temple is definitely something Ive consideredsince it can go nuts with Cabal Coffers, and and tested with on and off. Maybe in the future Ill add it to the deck officially, but my big issue is that I dont want to clutter my manabase with too many lands that dont produce black mana, and I currently value Strip Mine, Ancient Tomb, Geier Reach Sanitarium, & Drownyard Temple more. While casting Liliana ASAP isnt always the correct play, I always want the ability to drop her turn two or three, and her double black cost has me cutting down quite a bit on the colorless producing support lands.
1 month ago
Looks fun, +1
Here are a few suggestions: Tectonic Edge over Evolving Wilds, also Ghost Quarter, Myriad Landscape, Blighted Woodland, Drownyard Temple, Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, Oran-Rief, the Vastwood, Gargoyle Castle, Quicksand, Sanctum of Ugin and of course Wasteland.
1 month ago
Thanks for the suggestions guys!
Stocking up on mana rocks indeed doesn't seem like a bad idea.
I am not quite sure what I need to think about Trade Routes, it removes all counters from my lands if I bounce them but on the other hand it keeps them safe. It is a nice draw engine with Drownyard Temple if I have tonnes of mana indeed.
Isochron Scepter is pretty good indeed.
1 month ago
Looks good to me my friend! I would add the following:
Crucible of Worlds is an amazing card for this deck, however it is super pricey.
Possibly and Isochron Scepter since you have 14 targets for it.
1 month ago
Hello, I'm the one that you commented on my Sidisi Deck and I'm here to check out your version of Sidisi. By your deck description, it sounds like we based our decks on the same philosophy of gaining an absurd amount of value through the graveyard. I'll go over some cards that I think you should take out and add. I'm brutally honest about deck building, since there are so many potential cards to add to a commander deck and it's difficult to take out cards, especially when your deck has already been established.
I'm guessing by your card selection that you are on some kind of budget since the deck is around $200 (which is pretty cheap for a commander deck) or by what your description says, you are making sure your deck isn't too OP, so I'll only suggest cards that aren't absurdly expensive like Crucible of Worlds.
Creatures: There is a kind of secret rule w/ Sidisi that you want to have at least 33 creatures in the deck, so on average, she mills at least one creature when she enters the battlefield or attacks, so I'll try to abide by that rule when giving my suggestions.
Dungeon Geists- just a generic control creature, it doesn't have any synergy w/ the deck aside from being a creature.
Kheru Lich Lord- I think Whip of Erebos is strictly better, it costs 2 less mana, gives all your creatures lifelink, and brings back a creature w/ haste for a turn (although it doesn't get flying & trample). Whip of Erebos has less synergy w/ the deck, since it's not a creature, but I think it's sheer power out ways the potential synergy.
Mold Shambler- Reclamation Sage is a strict upgrade to this card, costing half the mana and being able to be triggered if it hits the battlefield from the graveyard, although it doesn't hit lands, if you need it to hit lands, use Acidic Slime instead.
Omnibian- A funny card, but doesn't have any synergy w/ the deck aside from being a creature.
I personally avoid "enters the battlefield tapped" lands as much as possible (I'd rather play a basic lands over guildgates), but I'll just suggest interesting lands that are cheap price wise that you could add.
Barren Moor, Lonely Sandbar, & Tranquil Thicket- all have great synergy w/ Life from the Loam, you might think it's silly to take up three land slots for mediocre lands just for synergy w/ one card in the deck, however when you play the deck w/ these cycle lands and you can get the combo going (I usually am able to use it most games, because I mill so much of my deck) you'll see just how powerful a infinitely recurring value engine can be.
Bojuka Bog- It looks like you don't mill your opponents, so I don't think this card will be as useful to you as it is in my deck, however I usually play this card in every deck I have that runs , just so I have some way to interact w/ my opponents' graveyards.
Drownyard Temple- Being able to ramp at instant speed when you have an extra 3 mana laying around is really efficient, especially since the only cost of this card is that it only produces mana.
Exotic Orchard- This card is usually another Command Tower in deck running three or more colors of mana, it is especially true in since those colors are the most powerful and popular in commander. (It's also incredibly cheap price wise).
High Market- Protects your creatures from control magic and exile effects, seems like it's no big deal, but when every deck running has Path to Exile & Swords to Plowshares, it's usefulness begins to shine.
Sunken Hollow- Is an excellent 2-color budget land.
Alchemist's Refuge- I'm not a big fan of this card, I'd only think about running this in a heavy control deck, if you are really desperate for this ability you could use Leyline of Anticipation and/or Vedalken Orrery instead.
Mystic Genesis- I refuse to use counterspells that are more than 3 mana for a good reason, you can't just have 5 mana open without A. falling behind because you could of cast something to progress you board instead of keeping 5 mana up and B. making it super obvious to the other players that you have some sort of interaction, which they may play around. I thinking replacing it w/ either Arcane Denial or Counterspell will be a good choice.
Plague Boiler- Not a fan of obvious board wipes that your opponent's can play around (or could just remove w/ a Nature's Claim), I'd recommend Cyclonic Rift (which you should be automatically playing since you have in your deck) instead if your worried about nonland permanents, however if it's creatures that your worried about, I'd run a board wipe, like Toxic Deluge, Damnation, Life's Finale, Living Death, Decree of Pain, Black Sun's Zenith, or Crux of Fate.
Darksteel Plate- You should get rid of this card, this is a graveyard recursion deck, you don't care if your creatures die, it's one of the strongest assets of the deck.
Vraska the Unseen- She is a random planeswalker to have in this deck, personally I'm not a fan of planeswalkers in commander since the other three players will usually team up to kill planeswalkers that you have, the only good modes on her are her -3 (which if you want that just run Beast Within instead) and here ultimate, when judging planeswalkers, you can't judge them on their ultimates, they are so difficult to get to, so you almost have to assume they don't exist.
Important Cards you should add:
Eternal Witness- The best recursion on a creature in commander for .
Phyrexian Reclamation- One of the best recursion enchantments in commander.
Swiftfoot Boots & Lightning Greaves- This deck doesn't have , so haste is hard to come by, and these two cards both protect your creatures and gives them haste, a much appreciated ability in a creature heavy deck.
2 months ago
I am so fricken glad to see Gideon, Ally of Zendikar rotate out. That bastard killed me or ruined too many games for me. I almost quit going to FNMs because of him. Yes, I could run removal, but because there was little-to-none instant-speed exile or sac removal, the fricken card almost seemed a win more. Made me want to table flip all the time.
Now, I will miss Always Watching , because those anthem-like effects are always great, and can sometimes be missed by opponents who go overly-aggressive. I also like some of the new blue cantrips coming in, so the over-costed counterspells leaving are not really going to be missed. Clues were alright, but sometimes trying to utilize them properly got in the way of a good deck. Finally, a card I will really miss is Drownyard Temple. Yes, that one. And why? Tossing it for a madness payment, then getting it back was a great tempo play. Gonna miss madness in general.
2 months ago
Hello, I'm looking for ways to draw more cards in . I'm trying to find effective two-card draw engines, basically any 2-card synergy that can repeatedly draw cards every turn. As a reference I am only looking for card draw engines that would draw more cards than simply playing Phyrexian Arena would, because why would I need two cards to do what 1 card already can?
I've made a list of card engines I'm currently utilizing, and another list of ones I've considered, but wouldn't fully commit to. I'd like to hear some fresh ideas or second thoughts on what I've laid out.
~Draw Engines I'm already running:
Necropotence = Pay 7 life, draw 7 cards. Obviously the best.
~Draw Engines I've considered, but felt underwhelmed by:
Aggressive Mining + Drownyard Temple = A repeatable draw 2 for 3 mana is fine, but the restriction I can't play lands is detrimental and may not make up for the value produced. I also couldn't play it right away until I have enough lands in play to last me the game.
Aggressive Mining + Herald of Leshrac = Bonus points that my commander is Alesha, the only issue is while the combo is so evil that it will draw hate from across the table, the demon's culumative upkeep is too slow to effectively be oppressive.
Mind's Eye = Tends to get targeted and removed just as easily as Necropotence. Unlike Necropotence, Mind's Eye costs more mana to put on the field and can be removed before you make any advantageous card draw off of it.
Norin the Wary + Mentor of the Meek = Practically a creature version of Mind's Eye for one less mana and in addition I can use it to draw on my turn, however; I find draw engines using creatures tend to get removed more easily than those that use artifacts and enchantments, and that disruption can make this one impractical.
Humble Defector + Homeward Path = Same issue with the last draw engine mentioned. Creature-combos tend to be removed more easily, and in addition, this combo is limited to two cards per turn and usually I have to wait until my next turn to get started since Humble Defector will likely have summoning sickness.
Well of Lost Dreams + Words of Worship = While there is a slew of life-gain cards to choose from, none of them seem as practical or as reusable as Words of Worship . The issue sort of amounts to a combination of small issues being; it costs 7 mana to get both pieces on the table, it can only be started (mostly) on your draw step, and you got to pay a minimum of 4 mana just to draw 1 card more than Phyrexian Arena would which can be pretty harsh for a start-up tax.
Tower of Fortunes + Thran Turbine = While the turbine can be switched with Sol Ring or Mana Crypt, it tends to beg the question why not run both or all three? Essentially your 1 or 0 cost artifact helps by making the activation cost from 8 to 6 which is much more reasonable for drawing 4 cards, yet still as costly. Braid of Fire may be considered instead, but you'd need to wait 3 turns after playing it just to make 1 mana more than the Thran Turbine to make a difference. Mana Flare can also be used instead to practically make the activation cost 4 mana, but it gives your opponents a ridiculous amount of mana to use which can be too severe of a drawback.
Sensation Gorger + Runed Stalactite = Unless you're already running a Goblin or Shaman tribal deck, revealing a creature card on your upkeep will result in discarding your hand and drawing 4 cards, plus the additional card you'd draw on your draw step. The three issues with this set up are; if your opponent(s) like their hand removing this will become their top priority, if your opponents have no hand or useless cards in hand this may restock them with what they need faster, and lastly there's always the possibility you might not reveal any creature cards for turns and turns to come unless you're running a creature-heavy deck, and even then you can still top-deck a land.
Kurkesh, Onakke Ancient + Sensei's Divining Top = This works similar to how Sensei's Top works with Future Sight, but not as good. Essentially you can tap the top to draw a card and copy the draw ability with Kurkesh so you can draw a card and the top again. This allows you to pay 2 mana to draw 1 card as many times as you'd like. Do note though creature draw engines tend to be more weak since creature remove and boardwipes tend to be prevalent.
Invasion Plans + Infiltration Lens = It might be a three card draw engine since you need Infiltration Lens equipped to a creature, but it doesn't matter what creature it is preferably one without flying though. Because Invasion Plans says the attacker chooses blockers you can have your equipped creature be blocked by all creatures an opponent controls, which will trigger Infiltration Lens for each creature that blocks. That means if your creature is blocked by 3 creatures you'd draw 6 cards. The main issue with this draw engine is it depends strongly on the number of untapped creatures your opponent controls. Invasion Plans can also leave you open to large beaters since it can allow your opponents to have you block only their smallest creature or force you to make unfair trades in combat.
Sensei's Divining Top + Darkblast = This isn't so much a draw engine as it is an effective top deck filter. Sensei's Divining Top suffers from the fact you're stuck with whatever the top three cards of your deck are. Luckily Darkblast tends to mitigate this with its dredge 3 as well as being easily disposable to put back into your graveyard for further use. While these two won't net you any extra cards it should be noted that both pieces can be pretty hard to remove on their own and may get you to your more valuable cards faster, so I felt it was worth a mention.