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Aetherworks Marvel Discussion
1 week ago
First of all I ofcourse don't know what your budget is. These cards I mentioned are in the higher price range, but unfortunately not on any reserved list and very easy to trade :) But fair enough if you don't want to spend that amount of cash on them!
To respond to your responses :)
The nim deathmantle I think is an auto include in any teysa deck, we play orzhov and we run out of a hand eventually. To use your turns to start looping stuff on the battlefield is pretty good. Nim is a real enabler in that way also an engine for your drain effects.
It felt exactly like that with the wurmcoil and the walker ;) The slumlord is really good, he often provides quite a lot of tokens and that's what teysa wants :) What's your plan with the Sandsower ? Cause if you only run it to untap Whisper, Blood Liturgist then I would just run another recursion effect instead of such a niche card... What about Dread Return , Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord , Chainer, Dementia Master are all very affordable recursion effects :-)
Vindictive Vampire I would just run in addition too, tbh. IF you really want to go towards the Aristocrats style! Lily I can totally understand. The standard meta still hasn't settled and therefor it's still uncertain if she will see play or not. I think as soon as that happens we'll know if she goes up or down. Nontheless it is a reaaaally powerfull card. Sorin is criminally underrated and in a aristocrats deck an absolute powerhouse and much better than the token generator sorin... Almost all your creatures are cmc 3 or less, wich means Sorin will fetch them out of your graveyard the turn he enters + the lifelink is a really nice addition as well. Gives you space to run for example Command the Dreadhorde or Bolas's Citadel . The ping effect I often use to ping a planeswalker, next to this it's on +2 so he grows big fast. I rarely draw him and go well this is completely useless right now...
Since Orzhov lack proper card draw like blue has, I would run Yawgmoth and lily tbh. They are both that good, but being on a budget Yawgmoth will probably do more for us.
Let me know how the Aetherworks Marvel works out for you! I have it in my binder as well and im curious about it!
DH i would keep out of your deck unless you play at a 75%+ powerlevel table. Otherwise it will ruin the more casual pods and it won't be fun for anyone. But that's the nice thing, see it more as a kill switch you can dump in your deck increasing the powerlevel of you deck quite a lot.
My bad about the draw then, it was late and I was about to get to bed, think I just overlooked them :-) Midnight Reaper I still need to get as well, I have one and it's in my Meren deck.... I have 2 bolas's Citadel's in my binder, but no idea what to cut for it in my list (you can always take a quick peek if you want to see if you have some ideas?)
I think what is almost more important than sac outlets are the recursion effects. It really is the engine of the deck. I play around 8-9 effects and a ton of card draw to get too them. Again Orzhov is not the fastest color when it comes to ramp, so we go midgame fast, and there we see out other problem. Going into the midcame empty handed is killing or not having a recursion effect on the field is also terrible to bring back out dead... As long as we can Recur our creatures we are good to go. That's why I'm no fan of Whisper/Ravos, they are creatures. People like to play boardwipes/spotremoval so often they won't survive. Putting your recursion on any other slot is better than a creature. If you are low on sac fodder than whisper is a horrible recursion effect because you need 2(!!) creatures to recur one thin. In my opinion Chainer/Victimize/Dread Return are all better because if they can drag your Sun Titan out of your grave the moment it resolves you have gass again :) Whisper and Ravos both need to wait an entire round wich is quite long to stay alive!
1 week ago
I have considered Nim Deathmantle for a couple of reasons, namely for combos with anything that makes two creatures and Ashnod's Altar . It is still a work in progress and might make it in. At the time of this post, I cannot really afford new cards, due to personal reasons. Ravos was an add because it also buffs my small weenie creatures, so it sort of made sense. Whisper was added due to recurrable effects that can be used multiple times and not a one and done type of effect
Wurmcoil and Hangarback Walker are both from the previous build, you are correct. At the time of this post I replaced them with Sandsower and Ogre Slumlord . Whether or not they say it is hard to say, but the deck is still needing tweaking as I go
Vindictive Vampire I did consider, but ended up using Falkenrath, since it was more of a Blood Artist (in the sense that it triggers WHENEVER a creature dies, not just mine). Liliana is also another high $$$ card, and hasn't been purchased for that reason. It WAS considered, do not get me wrong. Sorin I don't see much reason to play, not really doing much. I think I'd rather play the ones that make tokens (Elspeth and Sorin) if I add planeswalkers to the deck
Yawgmoth, Thran Physician IS a card I'd love to get, and yet another $$$ card. Might try and trade for it, since I would honestly most likely play it over Liliana
Divine Visitation was removed as of this post, in place of Aetherworks Marvel . I literally forgot this was a card. Sure, we don't do allot with Energy counters, but we are constantly saccing our own things! Digging 6 cards deep and just casting it for free essentially is AMAZING! It means we might get out an instant speed removal or even a board wipe. It will also just help us to see more of the deck.
I'd like to get a DH for the deck. I feel like its "not needed" to make the deck playable, but it changes the power level very quickly. I might trade out one of the creature based sacs for Altar of Dementia, just to be able to actually mill people as another possible win con.
To address your concern about card draw: Corpse Augur (replaced today with Mentor of the Meek ), Grim Haruspex , Krav, the Unredeemed , Midnight Reaper , Tymna the Weaver , Night's Whisper , Painful Truths (replaced with Sign in Blood instead), Read the Bones , and Skullclamp make up the draw package. Most of them are "whenever X creature dies", but some of them also take on the properties of working with the Spirits we make to help us to connect (Tymna). Krav turns creatures into life gain and card advantage, and Skullclamp because...well, thats obvious. Bolas's Citadel . while not straight up card draw, can help really churn through the deck.
My biggest weakness I am having with the deck, is not having fodder, or not enough things to do with the sac. Like, I know I got enough sac outlets, cause I am sometimes flooded with them all. But it just feels like I dont have enough TO sac to get these triggers when I don't have my engine going
1 month ago
Ramp cards I like: Surveyor's Scope Gift of Estates , Liliana's Shade are all great. Shade is more expensive than Knight of the White Orchid , but it will always get you a land. The other two are just great generally.
I absolutely love Aetherworks Marvel which is busted in this deck. Revel in Riches I see in your maybeboard. I like it in the deck simply to eat removal that would otherwise target something more integral to what I'm doing.
Spawning Pit op.
Chainer, Dementia Master I like alot as well. gets you goodstuff from anyone's yard, and it exiles them whenever you want so its a great way to kill reanimator decks.
I love Teysa Karlov so much omg
1 month ago
Falkenrath Noble is honestly the first card I plan to cut to get Cruel Celebrant out. Its lower on the curve, meaning that I can play it out more easily. As well, in a pinch, I can also use it with Teysa to exile a creature
The removal package does need to change a bit. Fleshbag Marauder , Necrotic Sliver , Plaguecrafter , Shriekmaw , Despark , Tragic Slip and Unexpectedly Absent are on my list of includes, with Shriekmaw and Tragic Slip being on the lower end of the removal additions. I like Fleshbag, Plaguecrafter and Necrotic Sliver, because they can always sac themselves and make a white token that can now be used to exile another creature. Despark and Unexpectedly Absent are more instant speed removal for "any" targets.
My goal is to hopefully swap out some of the creatures that say "non-token" creatures, for things that just care about "Creatures". Darkest Hour I feel will need to be slotted in eventually for combo potential, but I gotta have something to combo it with, whether its Altar of Dementia or a Blood Artist like effect. I don't think I need to worry about "how big" my tokens get, but its more so "making" tokens. I need stuff that isn't reliant on ETB, because some of the higher tier decks run Torpor Orb , thus I'm looking for things with on death triggers or on cast. God-Eternal Oketra is the best case scenario, because it can make tokens BUT it also can be sacced to exile something in a pinch and then just put it back in my library. Dreadhorde Invasion is just a worse Bitterblossom .
I will need to manage my sac outlets that "Do things", and not just adds mana or anything. I'd like to include more creatures that are easily returnable, such as Bloodsoaked Champion , Bloodghast and Gravecrawler (though I don't run enough Zombies to make it able to cast from the graveyard).
I REALLY want to try Aetherworks Marvel in the deck! Just the thought of saccing my things or there is a board wipe and then spending energy to cast cards, its basically cheating mana, but you also dig for cards. That means in a pinch, you could Wrath of God at instant speed, get that Path to Exile or even just get additional value out of it
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1 month ago
I'm brewing Traxos of my own too, right now. I think if you want to get Traxos out and beat with him, it's better to narrow down the deck towards Voltron strategy: less creatures and more equipments. Also, Aetherworks Marvel , Cultivator's Caravan and Skysovereign, Consul Flagship , doesn't fit that well with this type of deck, AM while a great value engine, it needs you to sac a lot to make worth it, and the vehicles want you to run a lot of creatures, without counting that there's many other better ways to get what they offer. Of course, that's only my opinion, good luck with the deck XD
2 months ago
My maybe board is kinda wild right now as I need to playtest this with my group to see where I should adjust. Here is my maybe list: Aetherworks Marvel Bontu's Monument Cauldron of Souls Coalition Relic Eldrazi Monument Elixir of Immortality Goblin Bombardment Golgari Signet Grave Betrayal Gruul Signet Hedron Archive Lifecrafter's Bestiary Phyrexian Tower Rakdos Signet Reliquary Tower Rings of Brighthearth Sword of the Animist Tamiyo's Journal
2 months ago
The first suggestions are for ur landbase, I think u allready know them and didn´t bought for buget reason, but a solide landbase is important for semicompetitive play at FNM.: - 4x Stomping Ground - 4x Wooded Foothills - 4x Copperline Gorge
Thats a standard aggro/midrange 2clolored competetive manabase.
I would defenitly include 4x Lightning Bolt
Aetherworks Marvel isn´t a good card for this deck there are deck entirly build around it to cheat heavy creature´s into play like this one: My Friendo Emrakul Turn Four!!!. The problem with you´re deck is energy is really only playable in modern with Aetherworks Marvel as a combo piece for giant Eldrazis/Hydra´s, etc. At my FNM you would get wrecked by almost every deck, I know how that feels I came to a Modern Tournament with a casual standard deck at first, it can be really frustrating :D.
Here are cards I would cut for strictly more powerful alternatives:
3 months ago
naturesnake420 xD Thank you, thank you. I might replace Grenzo with Meren of Clan Nel Toth and just go straight value-town, using Fierce Empath to fetch cards like Avatar of Woe , and Crypt Champion to recur things like Eternal Witness and Imperial Recruiter .
Dude, Windgrace Scapeshift is bonkers. The obvious one is Ob Nixilis, the Fallen , but Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth with Strands of Night is probably my favorite combo. I'm also a fan of Inkmoth Nexus / Bloodghast and Kessig Wolf Run . Also Aetherworks Marvel has saved me so many times, but I used to run nearly every fetchland known to man (and a good amount of board wipes) haha
Wish you luck :D
Aetherworks Marvel occurrence in decks from the last year
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