(Black), Discard a creature card: Return target creature card from your graveyard to your hand.
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Tortured Existence occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.0%
Tortured Existence Discussion
3 days ago
Boza: Hey sorry for the delay, but I kept getting distracted by "real life" this week. Now that I've got time, I love the idea of using the cow! =D
Also, I felt like the Cow, Grave Scrabbler and Stinkweed Imp needed more ways to get "online." The only card in the deck that can discard other cards is Tortured Existence, and at 4/60th of the deck, if you don't see it, then I feel there should be a backup redundancy for the combo.
P.S. I think this deck may be listed as "Standard" because the site told me all my suggestions weren't legal in Standard.
6 days ago
I recently saw a great tech in this article that really sparked the creativity together with this deck.
The list near the bottom uses Tortured Existence to loop 2 Bartered Cow to create a food token for each black mana you have. This will trigger reckless fireweaver and if the artifact dies, say to Atog, the disciple will trigger as well. The food tokens can also stave off aggro decks.
I will make sure to brew a Tortured Cow Disciple deck and share it :)
1 month ago
Thanks for the upvote Tata, but I don't think you looked over my deck before commenting :(
This is a budget deck, max of $200. I have to pick and choose which expensive price cards I play. I would like to play lots more expensive price cards, but that's not possible and all cards $5 or more you suggested are not better than any cards for their price already here. A wrath that kills all creatures with no restrictions is better than a wrath that has a restriction especially because reanimation is a theme here which can recover from a wrath. Look closer, Swords is here and has been since the beginning of time :)
You're right Ascetic, Darkblast and Imp are odd choices. There's a small dredge theme and it's here because I can't afford to add lots of expensive price tutors therefore I'm relying more on my graveyard interaction with Alesha. Imp, Darkblast, Thug, Stinkweed, Dakmor, Oddsmaker is the dredge package. Imp and Oddsmaker for no mana cost can put a dredge card into my graveyard.
Tortured Existence is a good suggestion and I will playtest it, but I don't like that I have to pay mana to discard a card. However, Existence can save an important creature putting it into my hand such as Karmic Guide or Kiki from exile of my graveyard by discarding another creature which I do like. Creatures who are enablers have more interactions in this deck then enchantments and Imp is a creature, Existence isn't.
Enlightened Ascetic is here because graveyard hate is annoying and most graveyard hate I see is from enchantments. Ascetic being a two drop who can be reanimated by Alesha or Lark, etc. or copied by Kiki gives me resiliency against enchantment graveyard hate especially Rest in Peace because Rest doesn't stop the ETB ability of Ascetic.
1 month ago
Have you considered playing Ranger-Captain of Eos or plain ol' Ranger of Eos ? You have a decent package with the three 1CMC sac/discard outlets that you're playing. The Eos Bros are something I've been considering for my Alesha deck for a while.
I'm surprised by the conspicuous absence of Swords to Plowshares . What gives? Your interaction package seems odd with Enlightened Ascetic but no swords. Darkblast is another odd choice. Are these all meta calls?
2 months ago
So Scarab God is one of my favorite commanders so you're in luck. I have a lot of recommendations for you. Lets start off with creatures. Creatures: Though you want mostly zombie tribal, you do want a few largely impactful cards that you can discard into your graveyard and recast with The Scarab God . Some cards I'd recommend are Sheoldred, Whispering One , Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur , Sower of Discord <--- This card in combination with Paradox Haze + Wound Reflection make for an extremely quick kill for 2 people, Noxious Ghoul , Ghoulcaller Gisa , Eternal Skylord , Gleaming Overseer , Undead Alchemist , Corpse Connoisseur , Lord of the Accursed , Lich Lord of Unx and Gisa and Geralf
Lands: First of all your Crypt of the Eternals isn't legal in your deck as it has red mana. Now lands are usually the most expensive part of a deck but also the most important part of the deck. If you're willing to cough up the money or want to get proxies of them here's my recommendations: Cabal Coffers , Command Tower , Crypt of Agadeem , Fabled Passage , Field of the Dead , Myriad Landscape , Nephalia Drownyard , Phyrexian Tower , Polluted Delta , Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth , and Volrath's Stronghold . If you have a way of making a proxy I'd also recommend Underground Sea because this card is ridiculously expensive. Then equalize your basic lands a bit more with 13-14 swamps and 7-8 islands.
Sorceries/Instants: My recommendation is remove all of your instants and sorceries with the exception of From Under the Floorboards , Syphon Flesh , Army of the Damned and Zombie Apocalypse . Now simply replace them with Restless Dreams , Mind Bomb and Careful Study so you have more discard outlets.
Artifacts/Mana Dorks: Most of your artifacts and mana dorks are good but could use some tuning. My recommendation is to swap Dimir Locket with Dimir Signet . Swap Prismatic Lens with Arcane Signet . Swap Star Compass with Commander's Sphere . Swap Charcoal Diamond with Darksteel Ingot . Then as an alternate win condition, you can toss in a Mindcrank and Strionic Resonator to mill your opponents as they take damage and then allowing you to double Scarab Gods ability.
Enchantments: You're missing out on some amazing potential with enchantments. Keep all of the ones you have but think about replacing Monastery Siege with a Rhystic Study or The Immortal Sun . Now I'm just gonna list off a lot of enchantments for you that work wonders in this style of deck. Pick and choose which ones you want: Tortured Existence , Zombie Infestation , Curse of Disturbance , Phyrexian Arena , Grave Pact , No Mercy , Dictate of Erebos , Liliana's Mastery , Open the Graves , Rooftop Storm <-- this one is a must have. Wound Reflection and finally Grave Betrayal . Your Endless Ranks of the Dead is new to me btw and I'll definitely be adding that one into my Scarab God deck. That thing is nuts.
Lastly your Maybeboard, the only cards I'd recommend putting in is Torment of Hailfire and Grave Titan . The rest are either unnecessary or do more harm than good. Though if you do want a planeswalker I'd highly recommend Liliana, Untouched By Death . She synergizes with the deck extremely well, especially if you have Rooftop Storm on the battlefield because now you can just recast everything from your graveyard for free.
3 months ago
Hi harlw, Thank you for your comments!
I feel like playing a card like Tortured Existence is like putting a big aim over your head. Let me explain.
For this card to be worth it, you actually need a setup. Ideally, you need Syr Konrad, the Grim on the field as well as one creature in the graveyard and one in your hand (must not be an eldrazi) AND also black mana. If you play the Tortured Existence let say on turn 4 and then the commander on turn 5, so you are only starting to have value from it on turn 6. Also note that your opponent will realise the combo and they will to destroy it before you do anything with it.
I think the best value for that card is to sneak it into the late game, when Syr Konrad, the Grim is already on the field and your opponents lost most of their life, then you play it and ping to kill the table.
I am not actually playing that card because I think its too slow and specific to be good but maybe I should consider it more. Let me think what you think of it. Cheer!
3 months ago
Tortured Existence Seems pretty good, two pings for one & repeatable. Could also be tremendously helpful in dumping expensive creatures early to recur playable ones. Thoughts?