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(Black), Discard a creature card: Return target creature card from your graveyard to your hand.
Tortured Existence Discussion
1 week ago
2 weeks ago
I want to build a competitive or semi-competitive pauper deck that utilizes the colors red-white-black. () Budget is not an issue. My meta mainly consists of heavy control that builds up on card advantage over time. (Mono-Black Devotion and Izzet Draw & Ping are the decks I'd like a fair shot at beating.)
My deck's main purpose is to use and re-use cheap removal spells while also producing durable chump-blockers. I've yet to build this deck, but I wanted to throw the idea out to people to get some second opinions before committing to assembling it. I'd like to know 4 things:
1.) Is the manabase appropriately optimized for this deck?
2.) Is there any cards I missed that should definitely be in this deck?
3.) What aspects about this deck might need further improvements? (Ex: Needs an earlier boardstate, needs more win-conditions, needs a better removal package, needs life gain, etc.)
4.) I've thought about making room to add Tortured Existence and Grave Scrabbler into the deck for greater card recursion, but I'm not sure if that would dilute too much away from my deck's strategy. Thoughts?
2 weeks ago
Tortured Existence could be nice to have more control of whats going into your GY and having it cast from there.
You probably could use more mana rocks as NV_1980 suggested, was one of my big flaws in my original zombie deck.
Feel free to hit up my zombie deck Grimgrin, zombie extraordinaire for any ideas that could help you with yours.
3 weeks ago
Cut Tortured Existence , Faith of the Devoted , Relic Putrescence , Caress of Phyrexia , Liliana, Death Wielder , Contagion Clasp , Delirium Skeins , Livewire Lash , Liliana's Influence , Gilded Lotus
1 month ago
Hey, good looking deck, ive been enjoying tuning up meren as well, feel free to take this with a grain of salt but here are a couple things i notice that i would suggest changing
-first i notice a strong discard theme, which i can understand the temtation to just get to dip cards into the grave, unfortunatly with some of these you might be unintentionally giving your opponent card advantage with cards like Dark Deal . I prefer Fauna Shaman to get cards from hand to grave yard, cause then you can find the other half of a combo, for ex. Fauna Shaman >discard Phyrexian Devourer search for Triskelion discard Triskelion search for Necrotic Ooze play it, win on the spot, or if there is a counter just bring him back at the end of turn and do it again. Another great option is Buried Alive when i play meren against another graveyard deck it is pretty much a race to get this because many times it can cause a graveyard deck to win on the spot. Also Phyrexian Reclamation and Tortured Existence can have some awsome graveyard interactions depending on your need -next is recurgence you have some great card effects that cant really be recurged like you can with creatures so cards like Nihil Spellbomb while a good effect maybe something like Agent of Erebos could give you much more value, in a deck like this seeking out creatures to do the job of spells can be very powerfull. Another card that does a lot of work for me is Life from the Loam getting lands and filling your grave yard is great ive played it turn two with no target to value drege on t3. -lastley im glad your running Necropotence many overlook this card for some crazy reason, but i would recomend running Reliquary Tower or Thought Vessel to get some crazy value out of it, my personal favorite is Venser's Journal but some ppl think its to costy, i understand that. -Well if you read all that thanks for listening to my rant, i enjoy playing meren a lot and have tested her in a pretty competetive environment extensivly, so i have lots of opinions on her lol. Some last thoughts would be to drop: Bloodghast , Priest of Forgotten Gods , Shriekmaw and add somthing like : Viscera Seer , Phyrexian Delver , and Fauna Shaman . Any questions or anything just let me know, i like talking about meren, good luck buddy
1 month ago
Gotta love a tribal build! +1! I'd throw in 2x Tortured Existence somewhere for a pauper build
1 month ago
Until I found your Leonin Relic-Warder combo, there really wasn't much in the way of power <=2 creatures to Tutor with Imperial Recruiter where in my Mizzix, the Storm EDH deck he's critical, nor was there anyone with Toughness <=2 with Recruiter of the Guard . I've added them to my maybeboard now for consideration. A Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker in my hand is a terrible, terrible place, I had to add Faithless Looting just to have a tutor-able solution to that possibility, but also evaluating, Tortured Existence and Chains of Mephistopheles .
Sneak Attack is the same CMC4 as Kaalia of the Vast , and along similar lines, only it uses instead of Haste to activate the ability. Early on I did quite a bit with Sneak Attack but if Kaalia of the Vast wasn't working (no A/D/D in hand for example) Sneak Attack wasn't either and didn't need the redundancy.
2 months ago
To play a card is to play that card as a land or cast that card as a spell. Sen Triplets allows you to play cards from the targeted opponent's hand.
Tortured Existence occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.0%