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: Gain or . Llanowar Wastes deals 1 damage to you.
|Want (7)||Exmix , Shankmaster4k , spacemonkey0042 , matty266 , merdrach , sillemans , Cannon119|
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|Commander 2019 (C19)||Rare|
|Magic Origins (ORI)||Rare|
|Magic 2015 (M15)||Rare|
|Tenth Edition (10E)||Rare|
|Ninth Edition (9ED)||Rare|
|Ninth Edition Foreign Black Border (9EDFBB)||Rare|
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Llanowar Wastes occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.05%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.08%
BUG (Sultai): 0.83%
BGW (Abzan, Junk): 3.26%
Llanowar Wastes Discussion
2 weeks ago
I tested the list a bit, and I am not the most experienced lantern control player nor am I an amazing brewer. I used to play a lot with the variation with Karn and Whir, and I was rather intrigued because giving up Whir is tough.
I absolutely agree on the Goblin Engineer, majority of times I had him in hand I could not cast him, and with so little lands I found myself bottoming him during mulligans. Simians feel hit or miss, which is definitely going to be an issue without Opal, and I probably will cut them eventually for testing. After a few losses with the manabase, I cut the Sulfurous Springs for another Spire of Industry, cutting the Llanowar Wastes all together for three Blooming Marsh, which were left sitting around from my old decklist. I am unsure if that is a correct call, but I had a few games in a row where the painlands and Spire was just wracking up too much for me, with the lightness of land I rarely went over three lands, which in that scenario the fastlands just felt right. I think I am going to add one more Spire at the cost of an Engineer and go up to 17 lands for a bit more consistency. Without Opal, the problem is consistency, which SSG provides powerful speed but I worry about the consistency when I run poorly.
As for replacing the gap of two from Goblin Engineer, I am unsure what I will do there. I might steer back into BUG since without Engineer there is little reason for R. Some of the options in U still seem incredible for Lantern Control, so I might play around in there.
As for sideboard, I remember running Leyline of Sanctity quite a lot, I am still getting more caught up with the meta again after a long break, but if cards like Walking Ballista is still as popular as ever, I would probably feel much more comfortable with them in there. Free wins sometimes against Burn decks, and sometimes shutting off 2-3 discard spells in the case of Jund (is that still a deck?) or similar decks feel rather important. Is Leyline no longer really needed in the SB anymore? How is the meta looking if so?
I didn't do incredibly intensive testing, so let me know especially on the SB and meta side of things since I have been a little out of touch for a while. Either way, it was fun playing the deck and I would love to see Lantern Control survive this ban in stride.
2 weeks ago
Hey, you're welcome. I like the changes.
Good choices to cut mill because not taking enough advantage of self-mill and opponent mill is subpar. Without an infinite mill combo, opponent mill is risky of a strategy when graveyards are a huge resource in Commander. Opponent mill isn't worth it unless winning the game with infinite mill combos from Altar of Dementia or Altar of the Brood where you mill all your opponents libraries on your turn and then each opponent one at a time on their turn dies because they can't draw a card. More self-mill is something to consider later on if you want to take more advantage of Muldrotha with Yarok. Causally Yarok and Muldrotha is a great a team.
I think you can cut some of the high CMC threats. There's some that are not as good as the others. Oblivion Sower, Oran-Rief Hydra, Rampaging Baloths, The Gitrog Monster. Out of these Gitrog is the better one, but I don't think it does enough here because not comboing with it and you cut Excavator. Some cards that could replace these are Diabolic Intent, Fierce Empath, Neoform, Lotus Cobra. With Yarok Empath can tutor for your best two 6+ CMC creatures.
There's too many basic lands in the manabase to support Field of the Dead without having Scapeshift. Flooded Grove, Exotic Orchard, Twilight Mire, Llanowar Wastes, Yavimaya Coast are some options. Flooded is good with the Shrieking + Cloud combo because it can make .
3 weeks ago
Hello! I'm glad I can help! Of course, you can adjust your lands to have more variety and help give more triggers to the Field of the Dead! You are worried about placing tapped lands but don't stay! Take a look at your mana curve, as you can see is not very fast: only 4 cards of 1 mana cost, and 10 cards of 2 mana cost which gives you 14% of the deck ... You can invest in some tapped lands like the dual lands Simic Growth Chamber and Golgari Rot Farm. Evolving Wilds to double (or quadruple with yarok!) the Field of the Dead trigger ... The Opulent Palace ... And also some untapped ones like Yavimaya Coast or Llanowar Wastes ... I'm giving you low cost options but you can see other solutions on my decks ...
1 month ago
Hey, saw your forum topic asking for help.
Seasons Past + Demonic Tutor is a value engine with Tasigur. You already have Demonic which is great. For control, Past can alone fill your hand up with cards and Demonic can keep tutoring for Past. You have some control over what cards you recur with Past which is excellent with a control strategy. Past + Demonic is better with an infinite mana combo, but you don't need this combo to get excellent value from the two cards.
Speaking of infinite mana combos you already have Bloom Tender which is also great and if you enchant it with Freed from the Real this can be infinite mana since then Bloom can tap for at least two colors one of which is blue which can untap Tender with Freed netting you at least one mana each time you tap Tender.
Narset, Parter of Veils , Ashiok, Dream Render , Karn, the Great Creator is the trifecta of powerful opponent disruptive Planeswalkers who are great with control. Ashiok is especially good since it can be a repeatable source of self-mill to feed Tasigur and shutting down your opponents from using most tutors is very controlling in Commander. Flux Channeler with all the noncreature spells can proliferate these Planeswalkers which is worth it.
Nezahal, Primal Tide is a fantastic finisher creature for control with Tasigur especially in multiplayer Commander. Discarding cards to protect Nezahal is good with Tasigur. Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur is more expensive price, but flash it in surprising your opponents or it's one of the best creatures to reanimate with Animate Dead . Animate can also reanimate an opponent creature which makes it very versatile for two drop reanimation in multiplayer Commander.
Deathrite Shaman is a good control creature in multiplayer Commander. Repeatable exile of your opponents or your own cards for value. Runic Armasaur can give you repeatable draw just by being on the battlefield and it has fat toughness which is good as a blocker. Blood Artist can alone shut down an opponent infinite creature combo. Gives you value when a board wipe happens since Artist triggers when any creature including himself dies. A source of repeatable life gain can be helpful.
The manabase is where you should really look for upgrades. The current manabase isn't for a $500 deck it's for a much lower budget deck. There's some good lands (Tower, Orchard, Coast), but most lands are subpar. Some lands within the budget to consider adding:
- more Forests
- Llanowar Wastes
- Underground River
- Ash Barrens
- Sunken Hollow
- Cephalid Coliseum
- Reliquary Tower
- Woodland Cemetery
- Hinterland Harbor
- Drowned Catacomb
- Twilight Mire
I offer more advice, good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
Hand of the Praetors is good way to repeatedly give your opponents infect. Praetors triggers on cast of an Infect creature which can take advantage of the interaction of Shrieking Drake with Yarok. With Yarok Drake gets two bounce triggers, first one bounces itself and the second can bounce any other creature you control with Infect.
Yarok + Shrieking Drake + Cloud of Faeries + four lands equals infinite mana by tapping and untapping those four lands with two Cloud triggers. Use this infinite mana with Viral Drake / Merfolk Skydiver for infinite proliferate after you have given all your opponents a poison counter. You're constantly casting both Cloud and Drake meaning that each time can you trigger Inexorable Tide as another way for infinite proliferate.
Should consider adding a few more dual lands and cutting some basic lands. Cabal Coffers is displayed twice in the manabase which is not allowed in a Commander deck. Sandsteppe Citadel has white mana in it's color identity which isn't allowed because Yarok doesn't have white in it's color identity. Llanowar Wastes , Yavimaya Coast , Breeding Pool could replace three Forests since they can be tapped turn one to make green mana. Hinterland Harbor and Drowned Catacomb are the other Sultai Check lands and they could replace two Islands. With 34 creatures Guardian Project can be good repeatable draw especially since it triggers Yarok, you draw two cards when the creature ETB.
Good luck with your deck.
2 months ago
Hey, nice budget version of Windgrace and interesting discard strategy.
Command Tower , Exotic Orchard , Savage Lands are excellent budget lands for a Jund manabase. Jund Panorama , Blighted Woodland are other budget Fetch lands good with Ramunap Excavator . Llanowar Wastes , Cinder Glade and Dragonskull Summit are other budget dual lands.
Some upgrades within the budget to consider:
- Scavenging Ooze > Neheb, the Eternal
- Deathrite Shaman > Gruul Cluestone
- Orcish Lumberjack > Rakdos Cluestone
- Animate Dead > Blood Frenzy
- Hypnotic Specter > Primal Growth
Scavenging Ooze can exile cards that your opponents discard. Neheb is another five drop and all the other five drops here are better than it. Deathrite Shaman can exile cards your opponents discard. Can exile your own or more importantly your opponents lands to make mana. Orcish Lumberjack is good for ramp and it has interaction with Windgrace since you can reanimate the Forests you sac. Can tap the Forest to make mana before you sac it with Lumberjack which means that single Forest can make four mana.
Can reanimate any creature in any graveyard with Animate Dead , includes your opponents graveyard. Opponent discards a big creature you can reanimate it. Hypnotic Specter is the original Specter, one of the original sources of opponent discard and the discard is random which is good. Good luck with your deck.
2 months ago
Hey, good budget version of Meren.
Some budget cards ($2 or less each) to consider adding:
- Llanowar Wastes : Golgari Pain land.
- Ash Barrens
- Jund Panorama
- Apprentice Necromancer : Apprentice is creature who can reanimate and self-sac which is good with Meren. Apprentice is good with Protean Hulk , can reanimate Hulk at instant speed and then at the next end step Hulk dies allowing you to tutor for creatures.
- Phyrexian Delver : Delver is another creature who can reanimate which is good with Meren. It can be part of a tutor chain with Hulk. Get Delver + Viscera Seer to then reanimate Hulk, sac Hulk with Seer and tutor for more creatures. This chain is the beginnings of a win condition combo with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Walking Ballista , but unfortunately these two cards are not budget options.
- Dark Ritual : staple budget instant ramp when playing black.
- Beast Within : staple budget instant permanent removal when playing green.
- Pattern of Rebirth : underrated budget card in green especially good when you can enchant a creature who can self-sac.
- Satyr Wayfinder
- Blood Pet
- Mausoleum Secrets : tutor for Buried Alive , good with dredge.
- Grisly Salvage
Cards to consider cutting:
- Golgari Guildgate <-- Llanowar Wastes
- Jungle Hollow <-- Ash Barrens
- Foul Orchard <-- Jund Panorama
- Korozda Guildmage <-- Apprentice Necromancer
- Syr Konrad, the Grim <-- Phyrexian Delver
- Glowspore Shaman <-- Satyr Wayfinder
- Altar's Reap <-- Grisly Salvage
- Murder <-- Beast Within
- From Beyond <-- Pattern of Rebirth
- Izoni, Thousand-Eyed <-- Dark Ritual: reduces the avg. CMC.
- Mycoloth <-- Blood Pet: reduces the avg. CMC.
- Moldervine Reclamation <-- Mausoleum Secrets: reduces the avg. CMC.
Good luck with your deck.
2 months ago
If you're playing aggro, you want 4 Blooming Marsh and probably 0 Quagmire. Advocate is probably not very good here if you're running only 23 lands because it will be very difficult to get to 6 lands in Pioneer. I would also drop Field of Ruin because, again, you're an aggro deck simply trying to clock your opponent. There aren't any threatening lands in the format to warrant a slot to a colorless mana source. I would Max out on Knight of the Ebon Legion and Scrapheap Scrounger .
Here's what I would change: -4 Sylvan Advocate -1 Scavenging Ooze -1 Tireless Tracker -2 Questing Beast -1 Liliana, the Last Hope -1 Vraska, Golgari Queen -3 Fatal Push -1 Collective Brutality -2 Field of Ruin -2 Hissing Quagmire
Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
As for the Sideboard, you probably don't need Plague anymore, since Field of the Dead is.. well, dead. I would honestly set it up for what you most expect to play against. X number of Duress, Graveyard hate (Ashiok/Leyline of the Void/Scooze), Artifact hate (Reclamation Sage), Creature hate (Cast Down/Doom Blade/Languish/Cry of the Carnarium). There will still be some Nissa/Big Mana decks you'll have to look out for.