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|Pauper Duel Commander||Legal|
Creature — Elf
: Target creature gets +X/+X until end of turn, where X is the number of Elves on the battlefield.
multimedia on Lathril, blade of the elves
4 months ago
Hey, well done so far upgrading the precon.
Some Elf upgrades to consider:
- Copperhorn Scout --> Defiant Elf
- Elvish Harbinger --> Lys Alana Scarblade
- Circle of Dreams Druid --> Rhys the Exiled
- Fauna Shaman --> Sylvan Messanger
- Elvish Guidance --> Elderfang Ritualist
Copperhorn Scout pairs well with Immaculate Magistrate or Timberwatch Elf to have a repeatable untap effect to make Lathril huge when you attack with Elves. With Immaculate since the counters stay on the creature then can keep Scout and Lathril huge. Fauna Shaman repeatable tutor effect can be useful with Elves that are not impactful enough in the game to tutor for a more impactful creature. Fauna brings a toolbox effect with Elves since she can get any creature and untap effects work really well with her to chain tutor.
Elvish Harbinger and Circle of Dreams Druid are much more price then the Elves you could cut for them, but they're among the better Elves in the tribe. Circle is another mass mana combo Elf, it's Gaea's Cradle effect and Harbinger is an Elf tutor that's also a mana Elf who can make black mana. Elvish Guidance isn't an Elf, but it's another mass mana effect and after enchanting a Forest pair with Arbor Elf.
Some nonElf upgrades to consider:
- Staff of Domination --> Door of Destinies
- Cultist of the Absolute --> Crown of Skemfar
- Patriarch's Bidding --> Return Upon the Tide
- Assassin's Trophy or Beast Within --> Putrefy
- Victimize --> Lead the Stampede
Staff of Domination is most powerful artifact with Elves since it can make infinite green mana with any of the mass mana Elves (Priest, Archdruid, Circle, Marwyn, etc.) if they can make at least 5 mana. Infinite green is then paid into Staff to draw as much of your deck as you want to find Ezuri wincon or to get at least 10 Elves in your control. Lathril's tap 10 Elves to make each opponent lose 10 life can be a wincon with Staff since Staff can infinite untap Lathril and 10 Elves.
Cultist of the Absolute is busted with Lathril for only 1 mana. Without any other boost to p/t it makes Lathril a 5/6 flying/deathtouch/menace threat. The combination of having menace and deathtouch makes combat a nightmare for opponent. Lathril provides the creature sac fodder that's needed to fuel Absolute. Patriarch's Bidding is mass reanimation of Elves for 5 mana.
Door of Destinies isn't a good anthem effect card since it doesn't pump anything without casting an Elf the same turn you play it meaning need more than 4 mana to get any value at all. For 4 mana you can do much better if an anthem effect is what you want.
Some land upgrades to consider:
- Rogue's Passage --> Myriad Landscape
- Twilight Mire --> Blooming Marsh
- Woodland Chasm --> Skemfar Elderhall
Over a couple of turns Rogue's Passage alone with Lathril can build you an Elf army, that's pretty good for a land. Twilight Mire for 1 green mana can make BB and that's helpful when green mana is much more plentiful than black mana, but black mana is also important.
Woodland Chasm is another Golgari dual land that Verdant or Wood to get. Blooming Marsh will rarely ETB untapped making it much worse land then it appears especially for it's price. Fast lands are better in formats where you can play 4x of them for consistency of having them the first three turns of a game. Fast lands are overpriced dual lands in Commander.
Good luck with your deck.
multimedia on Elves- Lathril.
5 months ago
Hey, well done for a first deck on a budget. Good job adding more one drop mana Elves and Ezuri :)
Sol Ring, Elvish Archdruid and Command Tower are missing. All are excellent budget cards for this deck. Lathril's 2/3 base p/t with menace is not enough to reliably do much Commander damage without help. Consider expanding on three directions you can go to give Lathril help?
- More Elf lords and other anthem effects to increase her p/t.
- More +1/+1 counters sources or pump until end of turn to increase her p/t.
- Effects, Auras or Equipment that increases p/t and/or provide more evasion for attacking.
Playing a combination of all these can increase the consistency of support for Lathril doing Commander damage.
- Elvish Archdruid, Joraga Warcaller, Canopy Tactician, Sylvan Anthem
- Tyvar Kell, Immaculate Magistrate, Timberwatch Elf, Tyrite Sanctum
- Cultist of the Absolute, Elderfang Venom, Rogue's Passage, Thunderfoot Baloth
Elvish Archdruid and Tyvar Kell are very good tribal cards for Elves. Cultist of the Absolute for one mana is one of the most powerful ways to help Lathril, 5/6 p/t with tons of evasion. The combination of flying, deathtouch and menace makes Lathril a scary threat who opponents aren't going to want to block. Deathtouch with menace is a great combination of abilities because any creature who blocks Lathril will die in combat. Lathril provides token creature fodder to pay the sac cost of Cultist at your upkeep.
Elderfang Venom and Thunderfoot Baloth evasion applies to all Elves you control and that can be helpful for big attacks with token Elves. It can improve gameplay when you can get beneficial effects from lands that help your Commander.
Some changes to consider:
- Sol Ring --> Fellwar Stone
- Command Tower --> 1x Swamp
- Elvish Archdruid --> Deadbridge Shaman
- Tyvar Kell --> Panharmonicon
- Cultist of the Absolute --> Eyeblight Cullers
- Joraga Warcaller --> Titania, Nature's Force
- Immaculate Magistrate --> Skull Prophet
- Timberwatch Elf --> Llanowar Druid
- Canopy Tactician --> Llanowar Tribe
- Elderfang Venom --> Mage Hunters' Onslaught
- Sylvan Anthem --> Llanowar Loamspeaker
- Thunderfoot Baloth --> Doom Blade
- Rogue's Passage --> 1x Swamp
- Tyrite Sanctum --> 1x Forest
Panharmonicon is an expensive price card here that's really not doing much because you have some creature enter the battlefield (ETB) effects, but not enough to play a four drop card to increase them. Titania, Nature's Force is fun card for Elementals, but she doesn't really belong with Lathril as Commander.
Good luck with your deck.
BossUltinuc on Golgari Elves (Commander/EDH)
11 months ago
Okay so I'm new to deckbuilding, especially for EDH so I'm just wondering if anyone has any useful/practical suggestions for this deck. I thought Abomination of Llanowar was a cool card, so I wanted to build around that concept of getting a lot of elves onto the field and my graveyard to really boost its power and toughness.
One thing I'll mention is that, with the exception of cards that are already present in the deck, I don't want to spend more then $3-5 on a single card. So keeping all of this in mind, any suggestions?
Commander: - Abomination of Llanowar
Planeswalkers: - Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury - Tyvar Kell
Creatures: - Elvish Eulogist - Elvish Archdruid - Imperious Perfect - Lys Alana Huntmaster - Immaculate Magistrate - Marwyn, the Nurturer - Elvish Visionary - Shaman of the Pack - Lathril, Blade of the Elves - Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Daen - Beast Whisperer - Timberwatch Elf - Elvish Mystic - Canopy Tactician - Poison-Tip Archer - Skemfar Avenger - Skemfar Shadowsage - Wolverine Riders - Ruthless Winnower - Wellwisher - Golgari Findbroker - Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord - Rhys the Exiled - Nightshade Harvester - Gilt-Leaf Winnower - Elvish Doomsayer - Storrev, Devkarin Lich - Nadier's Nightblade - Fyndhorn Elves - Llanowar Elves
Instants: - Putrefy - Golgari Charm - Murder - Village Rites - Grisly Salvage - Wrap in Vigor - Cast Down - Malakir Rebirth Flip - Ghastly Demise - Infuse with Vitality
Sorcery: - Cultivate - Rampant Growth - Eyeblight Massacre - Shamanic Revelation - Casualties of War - Dig Up - Victimize - Sign in Blood - Spark Harvest - Diabolic Tutor - Deadly Brew - Bone Shards - Elvish Promenade
Artifacts: - Sol Ring - Arcane Signet - Commander's Sphere
Enchantments: - Elderfang Venom - Moldervine Reclamation - Prowess of the Fair
Lands: - Evolving Wilds - Command Tower - Path of Ancestry - Llanowar Wastes - Jungle Hollow - Skemfar Elderhall - Golgari Guildgate - Tainted Wood - Necroblossom Snarl - Myriad Landscape - Foul Orchard - Darkmoss Bridge - Forest x13 - Swamp x13
TogbusPrime on Welves - 1st Deck
1 year ago
This isn't Modern legal either. Hollowhenge Overlord, Somberwald Beastmaster, and Timberwatch Elf aren't legal in the format. Until you've narrowed in on how you want your ideal build to be, and it sounds like you're on the way there since you decided to focus on elves with this build, I'd set your format to Casual. Either way, this seems like a fun concept and I look forward to watching it evolve.
Back to the legality thing, though, it's a very confusing time to be starting out. Thanks to Wizards including Commander cards in normal booster packs of the new sets it can be hard to tell what's legal in Standard and even formats like Modern. It's especially confusing in Modern's case as it's an eternal format, but the new Commander cards aren't legal in it. A good rule of thumb is if the card's set symbol is different than the rest of the pack's set symbol then it's not legal in Standard OR Modern.
xram666 on [Lathril] Army of Elves
1 year ago
Nice deck. +1 from me. My black green elf EDH deck is with Miara, Thorn of the Glade and Numa, Joraga Chieftain at the helm but very similar in some aspects (Miara & Numa Elves). So I have some suggestions for you:
With we untap abilities and the mass of elves you create Timberwatch Elf could be a nice addition.
Always nice in tribal token decks is Coat of Arms but this card depends on your meta of course.
As you already play Miara, Thorn of the Glade and can create a lot of mana you could also play Numa, Joraga Chieftain as a mana sink.
Alas I cannot tell you what to cut for the cards.
But I would try Binding the Old Gods for Putrefy as it is more flexible and also ramps.
Guerric on Help Building my First Competitive …
1 year ago
I can definitely see removing Casualties of War. It is devastating in the right context, but it does cost six mana, and while you'll have much more than most, it sometimes better just to play more mana efficient single-target removal spells like Beast Within, Go for the Throat, Hero's Downfall, etc.
I actually like Gnarlroot Trapper because it's another dork. I think if you build this right you'll have a lot of lifegain and the one won't bother you too much, and of course the deathtouch is a nice bonus.
I think Pact of the Serpent is a great card. You could potentially draw a crazy amount of cards with it, but for three mana it will be great even if you get only three to five.
I hear the argument on Twinblade Assassins. Five mana is a lot for something that will only draw you one extra card on each of your turns, provided that something dies. This is on top of the fact that creatures are the easiest permanent type to kill. Phyrexian Arena would give you the card automatically. Dark Prophecy would give you one any time one of your creatures dies. Grim Haruspex will give you one any time a non-token creature dies. Beast Whisperer gives you one whenever an elf ETBs. These are all very good rates, unlike Assassin. You need to have 10-12 pieces of card draw in the deck, but this is a suboptimal one. I also think if you get this going right you'll have a lot of things dying, and Miara, Thorn of the Glade will be a powerhouse. Moldervine Reclamation is similar. Last week my friend who play's Lathril had something like twenty-five elves on the battlefield (which is easy to do when you play Lathril right!) I had to board wipe him to keep us alive, but he drew a quarter of his deck and gained 25 life. Needless to say, it was a temporary reprieve at best! It's a good card.
You definitely want Farhaven Elf, Springbloom Druid, and Wood Elves in any elf deck in commander- they are the best there is. Fetching your lands and ramping them onto the battlefield while leaving a body behind that can attack and block and be anthemed by your lords is really great.
Binding the Old Gods is kind of meh. I think your instinct is correct there! It costs 4 mana and is slow and grindy for what it does. Sure, we need to kill stuff and ramp lands, but when we kill stuff we'd rather just use Doom Blade for 2cmc.
Cultivator of Blades isn't essential, but it's very easy to underrate. At minimum it gives all of your elves +3/+3 when you attack till end of turn. If Elvish Archdruid is out its +4/+4. If you tap Timberwatch Elf to dump ten counters on it and then immediately attack, your opponents are going to die that turn. The best part is that they'll never see it coming the first time you do it!
H2odor on Lathril Blade of the Elves
1 year ago
If you want more of a buff voltron Lathril maybe switch out Incubation Druid and Heedless One for Immaculate Magistrate and Timberwatch Elf Those guys also can go off twice per turn with Copperhorn Scout
Crown of Skemfar Eldrazi Conscription and Bear Umbra are always good too if you're looking to take out beaters and focus on Lathril's abilities
2 years ago
I also built a Rhys deck (on a budget though) na na na na, hey hey, goodbye(overwhelming tokens) here's a little bit of what I have learned playing it
Biowaste Blob can get big fast with your token doubling
Dauntless Escort has saved me many a time from a board wipe
With Immaculate Magistrate and Timberwatch Elf you can activate their ability in response to an opponent declaring blockers to buff up one of your little guys to kill or severely damadge an opponent
End-Raze Forerunners and Treeshaker Chimera can be game-winners
I also like using Glare of Subdual to tap down my opponent's creatures with my tokens
Citywide Bust can harm your opponents while leaving you practically untouched
As for planeswalkers, I run Ajani, Adversary of Tyrants and I prefer Elspeth Tirel so I also run her
Finally, my favorite combo in this deck is Phyrexian Rebirth + Fresh Meat
Good Luck in your war