Twilight Mire
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Historic Brawl Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Twilight Mire

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Balaam__ on Balaam__

1 month ago

@Andramalech I didn’t want to flood the deck page with posts, but I had a suggestion for your Forest of Moore deck. Would Twilight Mire be a good fit? I notice you have Viridescent Bog which is similar, but it seems Twilight Mire offers more utility, no?

Snap157 on Budget Meren

2 months ago

Meren as a commander really pushes you to build with a high density of creatures-which are currently only a third of your deck. In this case I would cut most of your non-creature ramp for cheap mana dorks (Somberwald Sage, Arbor Elf, Fyndhorn Elves, maybe even Viridian Emissary, Solemn Simulacrum or Springbloom Druid).

I would also do the same with your other critical deck areas such as removal, draw, boardwipes, sac outlets. I would cut Alesha's Legacy, Overwhelming Remorse, and Putrefy in favor of Merciless Executioner, Insidious Fungus, Grist, the Hunger Tide, Foundation Breaker, and Acidic Slime. Also with more creatures gives us better tutor options: Fauna Shaman is worth the money here, and Jarad's Orders is super efficient. Mausoleum Secrets is kinda cool but it only grabs black creatures which I don't like- up to you if you want to keep it.

Drawing cards is overrated in this deck- your hand IS your graveyard. I would lose the Village Rites, Read the Bones, Sign in Blood, Bastion of Remembrance and Disciple of Bolas to bring in cards like Golgari Thug, Stitcher's Supplier, Skull Prophet, or Satyr Wayfinder. Nyx Weaver and Golgari Grave-Troll are an absolute must.

Not sure terastadon belongs here, as much as I love it. It's nice as a reanimation target but meren will have trouble bringing it back and the deck isn't ramp heavy enough to reliably have the mana to cast it. Instead, maybe a Skullwinder or Junji, the Midnight Sky to give you some added recursion.

You may want to also add in about 5 cheap nonbasics. Temple of Malady, Woodland Cemetery, Dakmor Salvage, Tainted Wood, Twilight Mire, Viridescent Bog, Necroblossom Snarl are all very solid choices. Lands entering tapped won't be a super large issue if you stick to 5 or so but you will definitely notice the mana smoothing and appreciate it.

Hope this helps!

Last_Laugh on Atraxa toxic

2 years ago

Are the lands accurate? 24 basics in 4 colors is gonna be clunky and make it hard to reliably hit all 4 colors. I don't recommend multiple triomes due to etb tapped. There's a LOT of 2 color cycles that don't enter tapped (you can run 6 of any cycle in 4 colors) and any color lands. Checklands like Clifftop Retreat, Filterlands like Twilight Mire, Painlands like Caves of Koilos, Exotic Orchard, Forbidden Orchard, Reflecting Pool, and City of Brass are all budget(ish) friendly options. Obviously fetchlands and shockslands are ideal but cost a lot more.

DPhoenix on Dina, Soul Steeper

2 years ago

Corpse Connoisseur vs Vile Entomber

Fleshbag Marauder vs Demon's Disciple

Merciless Executioner vs Plaguecrafter

Haywire Mite

Exotic Orchard vs Twilight Mire

-1 Misty Rainforest +1 Prismatic Vista

-1 Mana Confluence +1 Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth

-1 Cabal Coffers +1 Boseiju, Who Endures

Skullwinder vs Timeless Witness or Treasured Find

-1 Mausoleum Secrets +1 either Grim Tutor or Vampiric Tutor

Jarad's Orders vs Final Parting

Twilight's Call vs Living Death

Moonsilver Key vs Dig Up

Maybe

Ash Barrens; Castle Locthwain; Necromancy; Assassin's Trophy; Imp's Mischief; Tamiyo's Safekeeping; Sylvan Library

multimedia on

2 years ago

Hey, well done so far upgrading the precon.

Some Elf upgrades to consider:

Copperhorn Scout pairs well with Immaculate Magistrate or Timberwatch Elf to have a repeatable untap effect to make Lathril huge when you attack with Elves. With Immaculate since the counters stay on the creature then can keep Scout and Lathril huge. Fauna Shaman repeatable tutor effect can be useful with Elves that are not impactful enough in the game to tutor for a more impactful creature. Fauna brings a toolbox effect with Elves since she can get any creature and untap effects work really well with her to chain tutor.

Elvish Harbinger and Circle of Dreams Druid are much more price then the Elves you could cut for them, but they're among the better Elves in the tribe. Circle is another mass mana combo Elf, it's Gaea's Cradle effect and Harbinger is an Elf tutor that's also a mana Elf who can make black mana. Elvish Guidance isn't an Elf, but it's another mass mana effect and after enchanting a Forest pair with Arbor Elf.

Some nonElf upgrades to consider:

Staff of Domination is most powerful artifact with Elves since it can make infinite green mana with any of the mass mana Elves (Priest, Archdruid, Circle, Marwyn, etc.) if they can make at least 5 mana. Infinite green is then paid into Staff to draw as much of your deck as you want to find Ezuri wincon or to get at least 10 Elves in your control. Lathril's tap 10 Elves to make each opponent lose 10 life can be a wincon with Staff since Staff can infinite untap Lathril and 10 Elves.

Cultist of the Absolute is busted with Lathril for only 1 mana. Without any other boost to p/t it makes Lathril a 5/6 flying/deathtouch/menace threat. The combination of having menace and deathtouch makes combat a nightmare for opponent. Lathril provides the creature sac fodder that's needed to fuel Absolute. Patriarch's Bidding is mass reanimation of Elves for 5 mana.

Door of Destinies isn't a good anthem effect card since it doesn't pump anything without casting an Elf the same turn you play it meaning need more than 4 mana to get any value at all. For 4 mana you can do much better if an anthem effect is what you want.

Some land upgrades to consider:

Over a couple of turns Rogue's Passage alone with Lathril can build you an Elf army, that's pretty good for a land. Twilight Mire for 1 green mana can make BB and that's helpful when green mana is much more plentiful than black mana, but black mana is also important.

Woodland Chasm is another Golgari dual land that Verdant or Wood to get. Blooming Marsh will rarely ETB untapped making it much worse land then it appears especially for it's price. Fast lands are better in formats where you can play 4x of them for consistency of having them the first three turns of a game. Fast lands are overpriced dual lands in Commander.

Good luck with your deck.

Dead_Blue_ on Rock Deck 2022

2 years ago

Not a chance in the world of that happening. Allow me to elaborate:

Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth is often one of the best lands to draw, it’s the second Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth allowing to tap for colored mana on fetches as well as allowing stuff like Godless Shrine or even Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth to tap for green.

Takenuma, Abandoned Mire is useless more games than not but the ability to find you a threat in the late game when it comes down to top deck mode is the little nudge decks like this are all about.

Twilight Mire is essential to balance out the play set of Treetop Village

Blooming Marsh is a great card, I’ve ran it before in Rock and if I wasn’t running Damn I’d swap in the fastlands right away.

The thing I am having trouble with is the creature suite. I feel like 4x Dark Confidant is wrong in this meta, he never lives to put in any work. Goyfs, ScOoze & Flayer have all been great but good ol Bob isn’t good any more

Chasmolinker on Rock Deck 2022

2 years ago

I would cut Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth, Takenuma, Abandoned Mire and Twilight Mire for Blooming Marsh

Grind on Dragon Draining Drones

2 years ago

Cool deck!!!
Your creatures and scion token generators seem legit. Any thoughts about Phyrexian Reclamation, Birthing Pod, Whip of Erebos, or Skullclamp?
Also your mana base looks a little risky with reliably getting all 3 colors early game. I would consider cutting some of your colorless lands for Vivid Marsh or other vivid lands, if you are budget conscious, or adding some untapped filter lands like Twilight Mire, or Path of Ancestry for all 3 colors.
Anyway, just some thoughts, cheers and have fun!!

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