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DemMeowsephs on Sultai_Sir

1 week ago

Hey there! No problem, and you have definitely come to the right place! Here are some types of lands that I personally think should have a spot in every deck, and some multi-colored lands that work anywhere and everywhere! I hope this helps you throughout your journey in the world of magic.

• Types of Lands:

• Shock Lands

• These lands say when [cardname] enters the battlefield you either take two, or have it enter tapped, which I am sure you are familiar with.

• Watery Grave, Blood Crypt, Temple Garden, Breeding Pool, Hallowed Fountain, Stomping Ground, Sacred Foundry, Overgrown Tomb, Steam Vents and Godless Shrine

• Check Lands

• These are lands that say, [cardname] enters the battlefield tapped unless you control a [land type] or [land type]. These aren't always that good in my opinion, but if you need a cheaper option they are MUCH better than guildgates, etc.

• Glacial Fortress, Drowned Catacomb, Woodland Cemetery, Dragonskull Summit, Isolated Chapel, Rootbound Crag, Sunpetal Grove, Hinterland Harbor, Sulfur Falls, and Clifftop Retreat

• Filter Lands

• Similar to the signets, these lands can be extremely useful when you have one color, and need the other. They are also a lot cheaper as they just got reprinted in Double Masters

• Wooded Bastion, Sunken Ruins, Mystic Gate, Flooded Grove, Rugged Prairie, Graven Cairns, Fire-Lit Thicket, Fetid Heath, Twilight Mire, Cascade Bluffs

• Fast Lands

• Some of my personal favorites, these lands can be untapped unless you have 4+ lands, and are very helpful at the start of the game

• Seachrome Coast, Razorverge Thicket, Botanical Sanctum, Copperline Gorge, Blackcleave Cliffs, Darkslick Shores, Blooming Marsh, Concealed Courtyard, Spirebluff Canal, Inspiring Vantage

• Pain Lands

• These are by far some of the best, as you always know you can get mana from them, without worrying they might be tapped, or untapped, or something like that.

• Adarkar Wastes, Underground River, Sulfurous Springs, Karplusan Forest, Brushland, Caves of Koilos, Llanowar Wastes, Yavimaya Coast, Shivan Reef, Battlefield Forge

• Horizon Lands

• The better version of pain lands- but they are not printed in every color combination. However when you can, cut your pain lands for these!

• Horizon Canopy, Silent Clearing, Nurturing Peatland, Waterlogged Grove, Fiery Islet, Sunbaked Canyon

• Fetch Lands

• There are also the beloved fetch lands, which can even search for shock lands, proving to be very useful in many situations!

• Flooded Strand, Bloodstained Mire, Windswept Heath, Wooded Foothills, Polluted Delta, Misty Rainforest, Marsh Flats, Verdant Catacombs, Arid Mesa, Scalding Tarn

• Battlebond Lands

• These are EXTREMELY useful if you have multiple opponents, as they come at no extra cost. However like the Horizon lands, they are not available in every color.
• Sea of Clouds, Morphic Pool, Luxury Suite, Spire Garden, Bountiful Promenade

These dual lands are some of the best, and my favorites, though there are many more people enjoy playing, such as bounce ladnds (Dimir Aqueduct), Battle Lands (Sunken Hollow), Reveal Lands, (Port Town), Cycle Lands (Irrigated Farmland), Storage Lands (Calciform Pools) and many others, but usually you don't have this many spaces in your deck, and so the ones I named first are usually better. However, I'm not done! There are many multicolor lands that fit in any deck, that are extremely powerful! Some of them are listed below.

• City of Brass
• Mana Confluence
• Prismatic Vista
• Fabled Passage
• Ancient Tomb
• Exotic Orchard
• Command Tower
• Forbidden Orchard
• Gemstone Mine
• Gemstone Caverns
• Command Tower
• Maze of Ith
• Strip Mine
• Wasteland
• Tarnished Citadel

• Meteor Crater

• Etc. There are many more like this but as before, the ones above are definitely the best, and most of them deserve a spot in every deck! Some specific deck themes have their own versions of these lands, like for Artifact decks you might play Glimmervoid and for Creature decks you might play Ancient Ziggurat. Usually, when I deckbuild i go to EDHREC, which has amazing suggestions and synergies for EVERY commander, and even for specific archetypes and colors- lands among them! For these speciifc themes you can find the lands you need there (along with many other cards too) but everything I named above I recommend playing in the meantime! I hope this helps you in your future decks, thanks for reaching out, good luck, and have a great day!

DemMeowsephs on Hapatra, The Snake Lady

1 week ago

I would consider much more ramp and a couple more switches for lands. From what I see (I apologize if I'm wrong) but the only reason you need that many basics is due to Cultivate. If cultivate was replaced with something better, you could thus remove some basics (not all of course) and have slots for improved lands. Here are some things that your deck could really benefit from- Ramp wise. I would recommend adding 2-5

• Three Visits
• Nature's Lore
• Exploration
• Burgeoning
• Lotus Petal
• Birds of Paradise
• Bloom Tender
• Emerald Medallion
• Jet Medallion

As for lands, some of the following might prove to be EXTREMELY useful for you, and I would consider each and every one of them

• Ancient Tomb
• Blooming Marsh
• Llanowar Wastes
• Woodland Cemetery
• Nurturing Peatland
• Twilight Mire
• City of Brass
• Mana Confluence
• Exotic Orchard
• Reflecting Pool
• Prismatic Vista
• Gemstone Caverns
• Gemstone Mine
• Tarnished Citadel

Having good ramp and lands can be very important in commander, and for the ramp you may lose some other slots in your deck, but in the end, I can guarantee it will be worth it! Anyways, if this does help be sure to check out (and upvote if you like :) some of my decks, Double Trouble EDH, The X Files EDH, etc! Hope this helps, good luck on your deck, and have a great day!

Balaam__ on Golgari Midrange

2 weeks ago

I don’t play pioneer format so I honestly don’t know what lands are legal or not. Fetch lands would be the obvious suggestion here, should they be legal. If not, I’d look to filter lands (like Twilight Mire). Again, not sure if they’re illegal. If you feel confident your life total can handle it versus most matchups (and provided it fits the budget you’ve designated for this deck), you could always swap out Blooming Marsh for more shock lands. Toss in a couple more Temple Garden and a Godless Shrine.

If none of the above is suitable, I do indeed think you have the right counts of the right lands to justify a Woodland Cemetery set. Between your qualifying basic lands and your duals, you have 14 lands the cemetery would do an ETB check for to come in untapped. Good odds.

Snowmen1 on Undying Retribution

3 weeks ago

Over the past few weeks I have been really optimizing a list that I have been toying with on and off for years: Undying Retribution

I would really love it if I could get feedback or some kind of dialogue on the list, because as of right now, I am the only one working on an undying deck that utilizes card:retribution of the ancientd like this (to my knowledge). The only changes are informed by my thinking. This I know is a problem.

As a quick overview of the deck, it is an aggro deck that leverages some combination of undying creatures, sac outlets, and Retribution of the Ancients (preferably all 3) to play above the curve and attack, out-grind opponents, or just combo kill them. If you are interested and want to learn more about the deck, I have a primer written for it!

I would really like to know peoples opinions on some of the recent or "up in the air" choices I have made with the deck:

Some of which would be the inclusion of Gemrazer to deal with Anger of the Gods and artifact/enchantment based graveyard hate. While this card does a lot to deal with those types of cards, Gemrazer is still most likely to not be cast-able in the face of a bloodmoon. I also took out combo hate cards such as Damping Sphere in favor of this card, leaving me concerned about those kinds of matchups.

I also have been playing the full four Twilight Mire. While this has significantly improved the manabase, I know this comes with a trad-off, drawing only this land leaves you without the ability to play anything. I have had awkward draws while playing the full four, but the card essentially lets the deck play single colored mana producing lands like basic lands and still cast it's much needed spells. As of right now I think the value of playing Twilight Mire offsets the risk of an awkward draw, but I'd like to hear other opinions on the matter.

multimedia on

2 months ago

Hey, looks good, nice version of Izoni.

The cards needed in the description are all excellent upgrades and the cards you cut are good choices. One thing to keep in mind when you add more dredge creatures are ways to get them back into your graveyard from your hand. Fauna Shaman is repeatable discard a creature while also getting to tutor for any other creature. Tortured Existence is discard a creature to then recur any other creature. It's excellent with Eternal Witness who you have here to keep having access to her. Genesis wants to be in your graveyard to be another repeatable source of creature recursion.

Altar of Dementia is one of the best repeatable sources of self-mill and a sac outlet to get creatures you want to cast into your graveyard. Izoni + Nim Deathmantle + Ashnod's Altar is infinite Insects which if you add Zulaport Cutthroat is a win condition by sacing all Insects. Witness can recur these artifacts after you self-mill them. Jarad's Orders tutors for two creatures and puts one of them into your graveyard.

Dread Return and Victimize are two budget reanimation spells that are enablers for some crazy combos especially Return since you can self-mill and then cast it with flashback from your graveyard. Both are good with Insects since you have to sac creature(s) to reanimate. Riftsweeper is helpful support creature when you're relying on your graveyard since your graveyard or specific cards in it will be targets for exile. Rift can shuffle a card in exile back into your library.

A few lands to consider adding: Woodland Cemetery, Tainted Wood, Ash Barrens, Jund Panorama and more expensive Twilight Mire.

Good luck with your deck.

ThePerilousRealm on Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund

2 months ago

Update

OUT

Mountain, Forest, Path of Ancestry, Savage Lands, Fyndhorn Elves, & Elvish Mystic

IN

Bonders' Enclave, Scalding Tarn, Twilight Mire, Exotic Orchard, Arcane Signet & Selvala, Heart of the Wilds

DemMeowsephs on The Power of my Graveyard

2 months ago

Woah Woah Woah Woah. Complete basics for your lands? I guarantee you, if you use some of the following lands instead, you will win SOOOO much more. Try some of the following:

• Blooming Marsh
• Verdant Catacombs
• Nurturing Peatland
• Overgrown Tomb
• Temple of Epiphany
• Woodland Cemetery
• Llanowar Wastes
• Twilight Mire
• (If this is within budget) Bayou
• City of Brass
• Mana Confluence
• Reflecting Pool
• Prismatic Vista
• Exotic Orchard
• Fabled Passage
• Ancient Tomb
• Gemstone Mine
• Command Tower
• Strip Mine
• Forbidden Orchard
• Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

• Cabal Coffers

• I know they can cost a lot, but I promise you that by including them all your mana based problems will slowly fade away, and you will win A LOT more. Guaranteed. If you found this helpful be sure to check out and give me feedback on some of my decks, like Double Trouble EDH, I would deeply appreciate it. (Don't forget to upvote them if you like them

DemMeowsephs on Plunder the Grave

2 months ago

Nice deck! But woah woah woah.... That is a LOT of basics. Maybe cut some of them for these?

• Blooming Marsh
• Verdant Catacombs
• Nurturing Peatland
• Twilight Mire
• Ancient Tomb
• City of Brass
• Mana Confluence
• Exotic Orchard
• Prismatic Vista
• Forbidden Orchard
• Reflecting Pool

• Gemstone Mine

• Not sure if you have considered these already, but I would definitely consider them! If you found this helpful I would appreciate it if you upvoted and gave me feedback on my deck: Double Trouble EDH! Anyways, I hope this helps, good luck on your deck, and have a great day!