Astral Cornucopia

Artifact

Astral Cornucopia enters the battlefield with X charge counters on it.

{T}: Choose a colour. Gain one mana of that colour for each charge counter on Astral Cornucopia.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Penny Dreadful	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (47)

Tur on People's Thoughts on Mommy Norn?

1 month ago

I agree with Sheldon to some extent.

First, it's incorrect to compare Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines's abilities to Panharmonicon and Torpor Orb. It's permanents not creatures.

(Nobody should care about the first ability, Yarok, the Desecrated is the second most popular Sultai commander and has been around forever. It's just extra stuff.)

It's the second ability which is problematic. Assume you play Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines. Not only do your permanents prevent your opponents permanents from triggering, it also prevents your opponents permanents from triggering from their own permanents. This is the first card in all of Magic: The Gathering with this effect.

Here are just some examples, I got from scrolling through the most popular commander Atraxa, Praetors' Voice on EDHREC (I do not own an Atraxa deck.) which would be effected by Elesh Norn:

• Lae'zel, Vlaakith's Champion
• Pir, Imaginative Rascal
• Winding Constrictor
• Astral Cornucopia / Everflowing Chalice
• Contagion Engine / Contagion Clasp
• Doubling Season
• Oath of Teferi / Oath of Nissa / Oath of Jace / etc.
• Felidar Retreat
• Saga Enchantments start at Chapter 0.
• Citadel Siege
• Bojuka Bog

Just thinking about all kinds of interactions which are possible gives me a headache.

Honestly, the Painter's Servant interactions are much easier to understand and that was a card which was banned for the interactions being too much.

If Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines had the errata to "Permanents you control entering the battlefield don't cause abilities of permanents your opponents control to trigger" it would be much more manageable.

DemonDragonJ on Should I Put Talisman of …

1 month ago

Caerwyn, I have Thran Dynamo and Gilded Lotus in every one of my EDH decks, apart from my Atraxa deck (which instead contains Everflowing Chalice and Astral Cornucopia), and you actually have inspired me to re-evaluate my decision to include those cards in those decks, since, as awesome as they are, they are very expensive and I agree that it would be better to reduce the mana curve of my decks.

MilesHiles on Send Nids.

3 months ago

Thanks for the suggestions TheGeneralSnowman! You're correct about the 3 cmc rock neglect lol I have a special lack of appreciation for Astral Cornucopia because of Everflowing Chalice and the ability to have a similar rock (granted without color options) but a turn sooner at the earliest. For an X deck, the color doesn't matter as much as the mana itself. This is true enough to where I'm also considering removing Phyrexian Altar in favor of Ashnod's Altar for a better creature-mana benefit. I like Reflections of Littjara. The doubling regardless of X ability is a good add since Magus Lucea Kane can only double the Ravenous Tyranids. I'm not sure what I'd swap for it yet but I'll definitely be giving it a try

TheGeneralSnowman on Send Nids.

3 months ago

Saw you said you didn't like 3 cmc manna rocks, however, have you considered Astral Cornucopia, with your cmdr out you can make 2 copies easily, more with token doublers out, so pay off is already decent, and if you have a Karn's Bastion you can just feed it counters.

Also Reflections of Littjara might be an idea? especially with doubling season out. Added it to mine still trialing it tbh. Damn wish I had a Doubling Season.

Max_Hammer on

3 months ago

Huh, it broke, eh? Oh well, here's the list again, not hidden. (I usually accordion lists, so they don't take up three acres in comment space)

• Polukranos, World Eater isn't X-cost, but he can poke at all of your other masochistic hydras, feeding them. That, or just act as removal.

• Primordial Hydra is going to get out of hand fast, if people let him.

• Neverwinter Hydra is going to, on average, be a 11/11 if you're just paying the two to bring it out and letting your commander foot the rest of the bill (Average roll for 4d6 is 10.5).

• Hungering Hydra and Protean Hydra both like tickles.

• Steelbane Hydra is some extra removal, if need be.

• Hooded Hydra could be cool. You get snakes!

• Capricopian is a goat! What's not to like?

• Mistcutter Hydra, Wildwood Scourge, Feral Hydra, and Stumpsquall Hydra are all here, I suppose. They work, technically.

• Genesis Hydra is here, but is also kind of less than useless (if you add a bunch more X-cost creatures. If not, it wouldn't be a bad addition). If a bunch of your big creatures are going to be 0/0's unless you pay their cost, then you don't want to play them for free, really.

• Astral Cornucopia isn't a hydra, but it is X-cost and would give Palette more doots.

• Strength of the Tajuru and Squall Line could both work well, too, also feeding Palette.

• Path of Ancestry just for an extra little doot.

P.S. I swear I'm not being paid by Big Elementalist.

mrwilson6488 on Ever Adaptive Artifacts

3 months ago

thefiresoflurve

This is extremely helpful information! Thank you!!

I will definitely implement your ideas on subbing Astral Cornucopia and Empowered Autogenerator for signets and talismans.

I felt like Wishclaw Talisman was a pretty viable choice to tutor in hand for 3 mana, and with the recursion I have, be able to recycle it after sacrificing it (before handing it to an opponent), but I will have to playtest for awhile and see.

Platinum Angel and Spine of Ish Sah are definitely expensive, but I like cheating them into play so I rarely cast them. Given your experience, I'm sure you're right that it would help streamline the deck by removing them for better ramp cards.

I LOVE your suggestion of Reconnaissance Mission, and I'll have to scoop that ASAP. Thankfully, I have a playset of Training Grounds so I'll get one of those into this deck too.

Thank you again for your help!

thefiresoflurve on Ever Adaptive Artifacts

3 months ago

As far as cuts go:

Astral Cornucopia is a possible cut. I'd rather see a Talisman of Dominance, honestly, since it's only 2 CMC. And, if you're spending 6 mana on a ramp rock (that can only do 1 color in a 4c deck...) that's probably not the best use of the mana.

Similarly, Empowered Autogenerator doesn't look very attractive as a ramp piece. It's just too slow at 4 CMC, and it's one color only in a 4c deck :(

Platinum Angel is a bit of a trap - for 7 mana, there are lots of ways to win, not just "not lose".

Wishclaw Talisman isn't really for this deck IMO - it is hard to make it work in my Esper blink deck which it's basically made for, let alone here.

Spine of Ish Sah - another one I messed with in my esper blink - basically same as platinum angel; if you're spending 7 mana, you can actually win, not just break a thing.

I think if you cut any/all of these and replaced them with 2 CMC multicolor ramp rocks such as talismans or signets, you'd see a significant improvement in your ability to play your commander on curve.

A couple other things:

Thopter Spy Network only one card and one Thopter per turn. Reconnaissance Mission is I think a bit better for draw, just depends on whether you need the creatures.

Training Grounds would be great here.

MilesHiles on The Legion of Doom: Foiled Again

4 months ago

Astral Cornucopia was considered initially but with how the Teferi, Temporal Archmage combo works, I needed something that was consistently going to give me three colored mana for as little cost as possible. Additionally, I can cheat Gilded Lotus in with effects like Ugin or Tezzeret's ults but can't do the same with Astral Cornucopia since it would enter with no charge counters. Thank you for the comment and suggestion though! And thank you for coming back to the deck again! It's been through a lot in 2 years lol